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1 posted on 07/22/2012 7:05:06 AM PDT by Kaslin
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It is hard to know what would have prevented this mass murder incident.

But I’d say the lessons learned are:

1) Make sure your CC (concealed carry) weapons have a well adjusted laser.

2) Target practice like crazy, practicing shooting while diving, running, jumping out of helicopters and repelling down walls if possible

3) save lives first then worry about CC restriction laws later

I am not saying however 1 and 2 would have worked. If everyone had done these things, it would have evened the odds a bit I think.


46 posted on 07/22/2012 9:24:17 AM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (Go Egypt on 0bama)
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James Holmes donned Kevlar

Has that been reported by a reliable source?

Or does he think the $107 Blackhawk Urban Assault Vest is Kevlar?

48 posted on 07/22/2012 9:31:05 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
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When there is an event like this, it is important to not let the liberals completely control the debate, by turning it into a gun control argument. While it is certainly important to argue for gun civil rights, liberals need to be counterattacked as well.

The way to do this is to demand that congress limit the power of federal judges to intervene in state executions over nit picking and trivial things, all too often not because of the law, but because the judge himself is personally opposed to the death penalty.

Which is why many vicious murderers sit on death row for 20+ years before justice can be done.

Demand that congress:

1) Set a maximum time limit to appeals. This is done by moving all death penalty appeals to the head of the judicial docket, restricting how long appeals can be delayed, and requiring appeals to be consolidated. After five years, the only appeals left are for complete exoneration from the crime, based on new evidence, as determined by the trial judge.

2) Restrict federal judges to hearing only trial error and unconstitutionality within the trial, *not* method or means of execution by individual states, *or* by involving information extraneous to that particular trial. That is, even though a condemned man is black, a federal judge may not set aside his death penalty because he feels that the state is executing too many black murderers.

If the federal judge does find for trial error or unconstitutionality, the vast majority of the time the case should be returned to the trial court for rehearing, not overturned and sentence set aside.

The bottom line to this is to turn it from a gun control debate, with conservatives playing defense, to a death penalty debate, putting liberals on the defense, trying to justify their opposition to executing horrific murderers.


49 posted on 07/22/2012 9:31:25 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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THis theater chain does not allow CCW permit holders to carry in their theaters.


51 posted on 07/22/2012 9:42:56 AM PDT by upcountryhorseman (An old fashioned conservative)
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“Look, stuff happens when and where you don’t think it’ll happen. My recommendation to you, the good citizen, is to get equipped with a gun—a fire-breathing dragon of a weapon. Get proficient with it. Make it like a cell phone: an additional appendage to your body. And then pray that you’ll never have to use it.”

I think this is very good advice to the type of person that has the ability to do so. The key though is to never stop thinking of yourself as “prey” and not a “hunter.” Additionally, IF you going to “carry”, learn to be the most polite person on the planet and civically minded.


54 posted on 07/22/2012 9:54:00 AM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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Re ammo & weapons: I understand there were others in the theater in other/ batman costumes. One of them was getting in people’s faces and frightening them.

How did the shooter exit the theater? Still in the gas mask and with weapons? With other people?

If the police were there, why didn’t they just drop him there?


66 posted on 07/22/2012 10:41:58 AM PDT by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto.)
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bfl


70 posted on 07/22/2012 11:11:20 AM PDT by pigsmith (My 'carry' permit was issued December 15, 1791)
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I disagree with the conclusion here, a gun in this situation would most like have been totally worthless or at worst gotten you killed. There is no way in the mass confusion and rush of people running for the exit that you could have gotten off a clear shot without the danger of hitting some innocent bystander. Also, the dude was wearing a Kevlar vest so unless your packing armor penetrating bullets in your concealed carry gun it would not have made that much of a difference. Sure it might have distracted him but I’ll bet that he was so hopped up on adrenalin that it wouldn’t have slowed him down at all.


103 posted on 07/22/2012 10:44:18 PM PDT by trapped_in_LA
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My recommendation to you, the good citizen, is to get equipped with a gun—a fire-breathing dragon of a weapon. Get proficient with it.

And that includes in low-light situations like inside theaters, or dark corners of all-night gas stations. That muzzle flash can work against you- if you aren't expecting it and it night blinds you.

Not all range practice should be on nice bright sunny days....

106 posted on 07/23/2012 3:38:39 PM PDT by archy (I'd give my right arm to be ambidextrous!)
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