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NCAA and Big Ten sanctions imposed against Penn State
Sports Illustrated ^ | 7/23/2012

Posted on 07/24/2012 8:44:32 AM PDT by Former Fetus

Sanctions handed down by the NCAA to Penn State and its football program.

$60 MILLION FINE

The NCAA imposed this because it is roughly equivalent to a year of gross revenue from the football program. It will be paid over a five-year period. The money will go to an endowment for "programs preventing child sexual abuse and/or assisting the victims of child sexual abuse." The NCAA specified that Penn State cannot cut other sports programs or scholarships to pay this penalty.

LOSS OF BOWL REVENUE

The Big Ten announced that Penn State's cut of the conference's shared bowl revenue - it estimates about $13 million over four years - will instead be donated to "established charitable organizations in Big Ten communities dedicated to the protection of children."

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CONSENT DECREE

Penn State and the NCAA agreed that the university will follow a number of conditions and requirements imposed by the association. Among those is that Penn State adopt all the recommendations in the Freeh Report. Among those are that the university:

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POSSIBLE INDIVIDUAL SANCTIONS

(Excerpt) Read more at sportsillustrated.cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: big10; ncaa; pennstate
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To: Alberta's Child

In the Penn State situation there is no discussion of corruption in the classic sense. No accusations of game throwing, paying of players, point shaving, etc. The Team Coaches made awful mistakes and at least one violated a law - a very serious crime for which he has been punished ...

The players, the fans, the students violated no law. And they were not involved in any sort of corruption. The team, the fans, the students are being punished for the acts of the coaches and some administrators. Such Group Punishment of innocent people never works. Talk of dismantling the team is inappropriate ... I think the university should sue and take it all the way up the court system. Punished the Guilty - not those who were not involved.


41 posted on 07/24/2012 10:37:51 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Nervous Tick

That we will never know and it wouldn’t be right to make a judgement on them without knowing. The school officials are the ones to blame for all this.


42 posted on 07/24/2012 10:40:34 AM PDT by RC2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDMeDmV0ufU)
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To: Former Fetus
They can vacate the wins all they want, but they won. The players won, the coaches won. This wasn't a cheating scandal. I understand that they want to take these guys out of the record books, but they'll be an "understood" asterisk next to the new leaders.

I don't think that punishing the players -- now or then -- is any kind of solution. I hope the current players have a chance to find a spot elsewhere, which will be a major disruption to their personal and academic lives.

43 posted on 07/24/2012 10:41:40 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: dfwgator
Oh I’m sure they’ll show up for the first few games out of defiance, but once they get pummeled by 50+ by the likes of Temple, that will change.

As a rabid Temple fan, I say from your keyboard to God's ears.

It will be interesting to see how fast the program goes south. In theory, they should still be a fairly competitive team next season, depending on how well O'Brien's system fits the players.

I do think you'll see a steady decline in 2013-2016. Bowl games mean a LOT to recruits, and to have them assured it's off the table, that's going to hurt.

Of course there's also the possibility of mass defections of the current roster. My guess is you won't see too many upper classmen leave - they're likely assumed a bunker mentality and will prove their loyalty.

44 posted on 07/24/2012 10:45:06 AM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: jimfree
This is fascism. A country that cannot punish Ted Kennedy for killing a girl should not punish this program.

I was thinking of something along the same lines...why do we expect these kinds of sanctions against a football program, but we don't hold our elected officials to the same levels? I suppose they could pinpoint Paterno and Sandusky, with one of them no longer able to defend himself; they can't say the same for someone like Eric Holder. He's able to insulate himself in layers of bureacracy and paperwork.

"The buck stops...er, somewhere else!"

45 posted on 07/24/2012 10:45:17 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Socon-Econ
I think the culture the NCAA is going after is the Penn State athletic department and the inability of anyone to stop them being a law unto themselves that protected and covered up for a pedophile; the culture where keeping things under the rug was more important that stopping child rape, a culture where - according to people involved with Penn State athletics - testifying in Sandusky’s defense - they said it was nothing unusual in having grown men shower with young boys.

As to that “culture” - NCAA has ever reason in the world to try to change it.

46 posted on 07/24/2012 10:45:29 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: Tanniker Smith
This wasn't a cheating scandal.

When teams violate recruiting rules, what is their motivation? To bring in players that otherwise would not have committed to your school.

What was Penn State's attraction to players? I assert for many, it was the clean reputation of their program, and the image that Paterno created. Now, by covering up Sandusky's exploits, what was the motivation behind that? I again assert, that it was to maintain that image, so that Penn State could continue to attract Blue-Chip players, players that would have otherwise gone to other schools, should the truth about Sandusky been revealed.

So in the end, how is this different than any other recruiting violation?

47 posted on 07/24/2012 10:51:12 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

What attracted them to the school? The team wins. The team churned out NFL players like crazy.


48 posted on 07/24/2012 10:54:43 AM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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To: Former Fetus

Instead of imposing all of these sanctions that might or might not have a long-term, positive positive impact on how the school does bidness I would impose only one sanction on the school if I were the judge in this case.
What would it be?
Force the school to change its name to

“Pedophile State University.”

Require all of their signage, stationary, websites, and anything else advertising the name to be amended to those three words.
How long would that school last? Not long at all!


49 posted on 07/24/2012 10:56:21 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: allmendream
As to that “culture” - NCAA has ever reason in the world to try to change it.

Damn straight. There are a lot of sick, deluded "sports lovers" posting to this thread. I dare say they think of themselves as "conservatives," but in their misplaced priorities and grotesque immaturity, they reveal themselves as anything but.

There comes a time when serious people put away childish things.

50 posted on 07/24/2012 10:56:28 AM PDT by DSH
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To: Tanniker Smith
What attracted them to the school? The team wins.

Chicken or the egg, what attracted the players that helped them win? Remember, Sandusky was a defensive coaching legend, several NFL Hall of Famers owe their careers to him.

51 posted on 07/24/2012 10:57:02 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: ICCtheWay
Penn State should just leave the NCAA .. enter another football conference.

I think you're confused. The NCAA is the governing body under which all college athletic programs are under. I don't think a school must belong to the NCAA, but other PSU programs would be affected by their not belonging to the overarching governing body for all college sports.

The Big Ten Conference, to which Penn State belongs, is more of a loosely organized group of specific colleges and universities. These conferences are arranged based upon their level of competitiveness, marketing, and geographic location. Penn State could leave, but where would they go? They cannot easily depart unless there was a mutual agreement to do so, and their departure would not likely be good for either party. Given the advertising and TV contracts, the Lions are far better off staying, rather than leaving. They'll still have to eventually recruit and re-build, and it's difficult to attratct talent when a potential recruit can't get on TV.

Even if PSU chose to leave the Big Ten, where would they go? What other conference would take them and their baggage? They could become independent, but they'd have to work much harder for their future schedules. For now--even with the punishment--PSU is far better off staying put.

52 posted on 07/24/2012 11:02:09 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: RC2

Penn State left the Paterno name on the library as a constant reminder to keep quiet while you’re in there.


53 posted on 07/24/2012 11:03:45 AM PDT by intheheartland
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To: dfwgator
Future PSU football game crowd turnout.


54 posted on 07/24/2012 11:04:03 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine!)
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To: Lou L
What other conference would take them and their baggage?

The Big East, they're desperate.

55 posted on 07/24/2012 11:04:39 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Jack Hydrazine

I think it’s the only stadium you can view in Google Street View.


56 posted on 07/24/2012 11:05:52 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Lou L

Thanks - I stand corrected about the NCAA. But the resulting punishment of players past - present and future should be contested in court. They had NOTHING to do with the problem. Other sanctions against the Coaching Staff and Administrator could be devised... This Shotgun approach to punished will hit innocent bystanders


57 posted on 07/24/2012 11:09:04 AM PDT by ICCtheWay
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To: Tanniker Smith
The team wins. The team churned out NFL players like crazy.

PSU has been a middle-rank team in the Big Ten, most years. They also haven't been producing pro players in the numbers that they had thru the mid-90's. Paterno was living off his reputation for much of that time.

58 posted on 07/24/2012 11:09:15 AM PDT by Tallguy (It's all 'Fun and Games' until somebody loses an eye!)
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To: Tallguy

Sandusky was a huge part of that reputation, that’s why when he was there, Penn State was referred to as “Linebacker U”.

If Sandusky was just some unknown assistant coach, I’m sure Paterno would have done the right thing, but this was a guy that was a huge part of Paterno’s success.


59 posted on 07/24/2012 11:12:18 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: RC2
Punishing Penn State is one thing. Punishing the students is wrong.

There's no such a thing as the perfect solution. I think NCAA and Big Ten have made a serious effort to balance punishment of Ped U and minimum harm to the students. But, until the day that Jesus sits on the throne of David and rules the earth from Jerusalem, until that day the best of our justice will be imperfect. And that's a fact!

60 posted on 07/24/2012 11:14:05 AM PDT by Former Fetus (Saved by grace through faith)
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