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To: trailhkr1
3. I think people who commit crimes like this shooter should be locked up for life.

I think people who believe that murderers should be kept alive at tax payer expense should have to pay for the entire cost by themselves. Those of us who believe they should be killed ought not be forced to pay for a policy with which we vehemently disagree.

4. We should be more proactive with these people rather than reactive as another poster suggested.

And what does that mean? Since we don't know who will commit a crime before the fact, it appears you are suggesting the creation of a "Department of Pre-Crime" as was demonstrated in the movie "Minority Report." I suggest that killing murderers will prevent future crime without the need to predict who will commit it before the fact.

4. It's been proven that many people who are violent have a chemical defect or portions of their brain missing that cause these outburst which normal people do not have. I suspect 50-60 years from now we will be able to treat people with mental illness before they go off..maybe even in the womb through medication.

I don't care. It concerns me not at all WHY they did it. I am only interested in the fact that they have demonstrated themselves to be a threat to others around them. We shoot rabid dogs, and we do not think it an injustice because the dog didn't mean to be rabid.

Lettuce be real, the death penalty is not a deterrent. Murders only have remorse and are afraid of the death penalty only after they get caught.

Nonsense. The death penalty is not a very strong deterrent the way *WE* have been implementing it. Given that it takes a decade to execute someone, whatever deterrence effect it would have on criminally minded people is severely diluted. The way it used to be implemented, it was a very good deterrent. Look at murder statistics from prior to the Courts becoming liberal.


86 posted on 07/26/2012 9:28:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Nonsense. The death penalty is not a very strong deterrent the way *WE* have been implementing it. Given that it takes a decade to execute someone, whatever deterrence effect it would have on criminally minded people is severely diluted. The way it used to be implemented, it was a very good deterrent. Look at murder statistics from prior to the Courts becoming liberal.

The increase in CCW and Stand Your Ground is resulting in more criminals being killed by private citizens than are executed, and likely has a bigger effect on criminal behavior.

I think a large factor in the rise of crime is the increase of kids being raised by single moms, thanks to welfare (fatherless kids are more likely to turn criminal) plus the tendency of the overloaded justice system to keep letting criminals plea bargain themselves out of serious jail time until they finally kill somebody.

92 posted on 07/26/2012 10:09:11 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
And what does that mean? Since we don't know who will commit a crime before the fact, it appears you are suggesting the creation of a "Department of Pre-Crime" as was demonstrated in the movie "Minority Report." I suggest that killing murderers will prevent future crime without the need to predict who will commit it before the fact.

No, but if they should develop a test that shows a baby/young adult is not producing the chemical in their brain that keeps them predesposed from being violent and a medication or other treatment is available that treats this condition then it should be done...just as thousands of medical conditions of all types are currently being used to treat illness.

99 posted on 07/26/2012 11:53:34 AM PDT by trailhkr1 (Bigamy: Having at least one wife too many. Monogamy: Definitely having one wife too many.)
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