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Jerry Sandusky case: Lawyers say they've found Victim 2, the boy Mike McQueary saw being molested
http://www.pennlive.com/midstate/2012/07/jerry_sandusky_case_lawyers_sa.html ^

Posted on 07/26/2012 11:44:37 AM PDT by outpostinmass2

Victim 2, the boy who was, until now, known to exist only because Mike McQueary saw him being molested by Jerry Sandusky in a Penn State shower in 2001, has come forward to two State College lawyers.

Andrew Shubin and Justine Andronici, two lawyers who launched their own investigation into Sandusky's activities over the last four decades -- and the reactions of people around him -- say that Victim 2 has identified himself to them.

As part of the investigation, they acquired voicemails from Sandusky to the man, and released those on www. rossfellercasey.com, the website of the Philadelphia law firm they are working with.

In both, Sandusky ends the message with "love you."

They released a statement that reads, in part:

"Our client suffered extensive sexual abuse over many years both before and after the 2001 incident Michael McQueary witnessed in the Penn State Lasch building shower.

"Penn State has now admitted and there is no longer any question that its top officials could have and should have prevented these acts.

"Jerry Sandusky's abuse of Victim 2 and other children is a direct result of a conspiracy to conceal Sandusky's conduct and the decisions by top Penn State officials that facilitated and enabled his access to victims.

(Excerpt) Read more at pennlive.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: Pennsylvania
KEYWORDS: paterno; pennstate; sandusky
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To: outpostinmass2

The NCAA has shown with its Penn State decision, that it is nothing more than an associate member of NAMBLA.

How they could let ANY team from PENN STATE ever be allowed to play under their banner again is beyond me. This is an organization that knowingly put their sports program above the safety of children, and not 1 lone wolf, but systemicall the most powerful people in the administration KNEW and covered it up.

If the NCAA can’t draw the line at allowing pedophilia to knowingly go on and cover it there is no line with NCAA, just greed. NCAA are nothing more than useless whores.


41 posted on 07/26/2012 12:57:32 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: outpostinmass2

Sandusky was appparently outed during by John DeCamp while writing about The Franklin Cover Up

http://www.dailypaul.com/244784/sandusky

Anyone who has been following the Penn State debacle should read about The Franklin Cover Up.


42 posted on 07/26/2012 12:58:09 PM PDT by RummyChick
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To: Uncle Chip

On June 30, 2011, Lara Gricar, Ray’s daughter and trustee of his estate, petitioned Centre County for a court declaration of presumed death.[18] County President Judge David E. Grine approved the petition and declared Gricar legally dead on July 25, 2011.

He was missing for 6 years. This is fairly typical in cases like these unless you think his daughter is invloved as well.


43 posted on 07/26/2012 1:01:31 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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To: Trailerpark Badass
I read an article here some time ago. Before the Sandusky thing became known. Maybe it was referring to Gricar. Can't remember exactly. Anyway it was referring to the extremely liberal agenda at Penn St. And speculated that he was investigating a pedophile ring of some sort. And that the higher ups were very active in the whole homo rights movement etc.

I could be wrong. Haven't heard anything else about it. But from what I remember it seemed pretty credible.

44 posted on 07/26/2012 1:04:24 PM PDT by saleman (!!!!)
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To: marygonzo
Sanctions have in the past related to a violation of NCAA rules. Do we now have a rule that if we know of a crime committed by anyone in the program— we banish football.

I am going to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume this is an honest question and not yet another rant from a PSU partisan.

First, in Emmert's letter to PSU when the allegations surfaced, he explicitly referred to three NCAA bylaws that directly address the general conduct of athletic officials on and off the playing field.

Second, Sandusky could have raped and murdered a dozen nuns on the fifty yard line and PSU would not have been penalized had they reported it to authorities immediately. Instead, in order to protect the viability and prestige of the football program and its leader, the university's highest official conspired with athletic officials to conceal the ongoing rape of children for more than a decade.

The NCAA is a voluntary member organization, and is free to sanction its members as it sees fit. It is not a state actor and is not bound by due process considerations. PSU is free to end its affiliation and play football as a club sport or seek entry into the NAIA or some other organization that would have them (doubtful there would be any takers). Or they can accept the very merciful fate the NCAA has delivered to them and pray the civil suits leave enough land at the university for a football field.

45 posted on 07/26/2012 1:16:23 PM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Trailerpark Badass

What ever happened to the radio host with the story of the boosters and donors and the huge gay management at the Univ passing these boys around in the pedifile ring?

It was out for awhile when this broke last year - does not seem to be coming back.


46 posted on 07/26/2012 1:19:16 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: Trailerpark Badass

I’m a Pac 12 guy - our biggest problem was Reggie Bush. 8-)


47 posted on 07/26/2012 1:20:30 PM PDT by edcoil (It is not over until I win.)
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To: edcoil
It was out for awhile when this broke last year - does not seem to be coming back.

I think the reporter woke up with a horse's head next to him.

48 posted on 07/26/2012 1:23:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp

I thought it was curious that The Second Mile folded so quickly. I hope the records are still there — wherever there is now.


49 posted on 07/26/2012 1:24:56 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: marygonzo

“but DESTROY FOOTBALL? unbelievable.”

What would your solution be?


50 posted on 07/26/2012 1:25:33 PM PDT by spel_grammer_an_punct_polise (I wanna start a Seniors' Motor Scooter Gang. Wanna join?)
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To: Lurker
Might as well start selling off Penn State assets now ,,,

I heard legal experts say that this will cost Penn State around $100 million. That is chicken feed -- they have a $1.8 billion endowment and $4 billion budget.

51 posted on 07/26/2012 1:28:57 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: formosa

To those who feel the punishment is too severe, and that former Penn State football players should not have to suffer punishment (have their game winnings removed from NCAA records) because the college administration “looked the other way.” - think of this:

There is no way I will believe that some, probably very many, football players had heard about what Sandusky was doing. Colleges are full of rumors and stories. Over the years Sandusky’s behavior had to be talked about in the locker rooms, and boys on the team had to warn one another. But they kept quiet too. Don’t tell me they didn’t have some knowledge. And, so, Sandusky continued. The players continued to play, the college continued to reap in the $$$ benefits, and the players continued to be honored. No one wanted to give up anything for the sake of being forthright and moral and speaking up about the crimes being committed by Sandusky. No one wanted their own record harmed by not having a chance to play and win.

The football teams, over the years, are just as much at fault as the administration. It is nonsense to think that young men who are in such close contact with each other for days, months, years on end did not know and talk about what was going on when Sandusky went to the locker rooms with young boys. You men out there...who were on sports teams or in the military...you know you knew who to avoid and why; you were told by your teammates...and you talked about it with one another. The silence of the players in not reporting what they all had to know, or even just suspect, is just as deplorable as the silence of the administration. They all share in a portion of the guilt.


52 posted on 07/26/2012 1:36:10 PM PDT by CitizenM (Obama - The architect of the decline of the U.S.)
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To: Dr. Brian Kopp
"If Gricar voluntarily vanished because of damning information in his possession, or if he got an ominous tap on the shoulder, it then makes sense that elite politicians and members of law enforcement—as well as the mainstream media—would push the murder and suicide angles over him deliberately deciding to disappear. In this sense, is Gricar in a quasi-witness protection program? Stated differently, in exchange for not blowing the whistle on some high crimes and misdemeanors, Gricar was permitted to escape with his life and live incognito at an undisclosed location."

Hmmmmmm

53 posted on 07/26/2012 1:40:59 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
So, a clue ~ this is the same crowd who protected the killer doc in Philadelphia, Kermit Gosnell.
54 posted on 07/26/2012 1:40:59 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: dfwgator

Speaking of The Second Mile, have you seen this article?! Sounds like the initial rumors of this all being part of pimping out young boys for the well connected just may be true!

http://americanfreepress.net/?p=5116


55 posted on 07/26/2012 1:50:26 PM PDT by battletank
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To: battletank

I look at it this way, what would anyone have to gain by making up such a story?


56 posted on 07/26/2012 1:51:57 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: dfwgator

Sorry. Upon reading further in this thread, I see that article has already been pointed out. I hope everyone reads it!


57 posted on 07/26/2012 1:53:07 PM PDT by battletank
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To: saleman
Well, the president, Spanier, is an "academic," whose field of study was "human sexuality," with papers written on mate swapping. He vowed to make PSU the most "gay-friendly" campus in the country.

Take from that what you will.

58 posted on 07/26/2012 2:15:10 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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To: outpostinmass2
"Our client suffered extensive sexual abuse over many years both before and after the 2001 incident Michael McQueary witnessed in the Penn State Lasch building shower.

Damned, all of those who knew and did nothing to stop the fiend.

59 posted on 07/26/2012 2:19:12 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: edcoil
Yeah, I am almost done with UGA football, where we just have your garden-variety thieves, pot-smoking gun-toters, girlfriend-beaters, and drunk drivers.

But you know, Georgia fans are very bit as football crazed as PSU, but we've never had the weird kind of personality cult they have at PSU. Even Vince Dooley had half the fans wanting him fired any year he didn't win the SEC.

60 posted on 07/26/2012 2:20:33 PM PDT by Trailerpark Badass
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