I'm an Old Yeller-American. Arf!
Posted on 07/27/2012 11:28:07 AM PDT by pinochet
Education Ping.
I was making a joke. Previously people might respect the Saxons more than the Angles - and the Normans more than the Saxons - due to admiration of WINNING.
In the current victimology idiocy - those poor poor Angles! Overrun by Saxon hordes! Apparently one should be proud of having ancestors on the losing side of history.
Me? I'm proud to be an American - and that should be plenty for anyone. The best that can be said of my ancestors was that they were smart enough to get the HELL OUT of Europe!
“Environmentalists” love them some Fiji and St. Barts, so why are they so down on warming? It’s all a plot to get rid of all those annoying other people, except the ones who work at their environmentally correct resorts (4:1 staff to guest ratio!).
One branch of my family settled in New England in 1624. That means we have been here 376 years. I think that is long enough to make us Americans. The rest seemed to have settled in the 1830s from Wales, Scot-Irish Antrim Co Ireland, Scotland, Germany and Bavaria. They brought with them no etnic language, food, holidays that have survived.
The one thing they did bring with them was the English law, the traditional notion of the rights of Englishmen and a history of fighting to wrest those rights from an oppressive monarchy. They brought a strong notion of individual freedom and responsibility, an ethic of hard work and entrepreneuralism, a Christian morality and a direction toward self government. Those are my traditions, my ethnic identity and ones that I will not easily give up.
LOL! Funny-sounding, yes, but as a project of invasion and assimilation, Old English is on the "simple and easy" end of the linguistic spectrum.
Modern Hebrew fits there, too, because of its revival from a literary to a spoken language, originally intended for adult learners. In a thousand years, maybe it will be an unlearnable disaster again.
See Genesis 10, The “Table of Nations”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Noah
as far as I know I come from Gomer.
Have you noticed that when the media uses the term “Anglo” that it is almost always pejorative?
I love haggis. I also like the German version called Saumagen (stuffed sow's stomach). Maybe it's because my ancestors came from Scotland and Lorraine.
I’m Southern, and my ancestors came from Surrey county in England. I am VERY proud of my heritage and I don’t care what PC whiner or minority has a problem with it.
That said-—”hatred” of Northern folks? Really? If you’re conservative and Northern, come on down. We simply don’t want any northeastern LIBERAL values down here. We also don’t want condescension or assumptions that we’re toothless and ignorant. That kind of thing tends to make you less welcome.
Listen to the Lord's Prayer in Anglo-Saxon. It's hard to believe that this is an earlier version of the language we speak today. I find it harder to understand than Polish, Italian and Dutch, none of which I have ever formally studied.
Kewl. That was a long time ago, and there was a major Zot to the language when the French arrived.
I went to Mass in Amsterdam once. Most of the congregation was foreign, so they handed out a text in Dutch to everyone. We English-speakers were able to read along phonetically without much trouble and put together what was being said.
Puritans = East Anglia
Virginians = Wessex
West New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Maryland, and Delaware = north midlands
backcountry = north Britain, Scotland, and Ireland
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I don’t believe in being proud of accidents of fate. My race, height, nationality, skin color, hair color,that was all just my being born lottery it’s not like I did anything to get any of those things. Now what I’ve DONE with that, yeah I’m proud. Proud of active verbs, never of random chance.
I'm an Old Yeller-American. Arf!
I think everyone should celebrate their heritage and celebrate the heritage of others. The diversity crowd will not be happy until all signs of culture and tradition are crushed. My ancestors were German and Irish. My German namesakes came to America in 1745.
“I didn’t think the “Scots” in Scots-Irish were necessarily of full Celtic stock (e.g. Highlanders). More an amalgamation of the Angle, Saxon, Norman, Romano-British and Celtic blood lines that mixed and mingled for hundreds of years in the Midlands of England. Plus, was not even the “Irish” side more Anglo-Irish in culture than Celtic?”
The term “scots-irish” was coined in America, in the mid 1800s, once the “potato famine” Irish began immigrating here.
Until then, the “scots-irish” in America called themselves “Irish” for that was their classification, when they came to the colonies during the 1700s.
The potato famine Irish of the mid 1800s were of low education, low economic class, and generally looked down on.
In order to distinguish themselves from these Irish newcomers, the earlier settlers called themselves “Scots-Irish” as a mark of superior class.
In Canada and the UK, the term “scots-irish” is NOT used. They are called mainly “Ulters-Scots.”
As far as celtic-purity, it is easy to prove the Ulster-Scots have many claims to celtic heretige.
I will leave defending this claim to those better qualified than I am.
Racially the people of Ireland and Scotland mix Celt, Roman, Anglo-Saxon, Danish, Norman blood with several others. To say one is “pure” or “more pure” is a hard claim to support.
I have not tried a Haggis. But I’ll try it once, next time I visit a Scottish Highland Games.
But what I like are meat pies...
“And many are of Scottish, Irish or Scots-Irish heritage (Scots who migrated to Ireland and after some generations, to the American south). “
Scots-Irish and Welsh from my area of Tennessee. A rather feisty but charming lot. Nowadays it seems like it’s mostly Indians, Somalians, Kurds and Mexicans.
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