Skip to comments.Should Anglo-Saxon Americans Be Proud of their Heritage?
Posted on 07/27/2012 11:28:07 AM PDT by pinochet
Barack Obama made a trip to Ireland when he became President, and he bragged about the Irish heritage that he has on his mother's side. In his first book, he wrote about visiting Kenya, to celebrate his father's Kenyan roots. Then why is Mitt Romney being given a hard time on his visit to England, when one of his advisers mentioned that Romney is proud of his Anglo-Saxon heritage? Romney should tell his non-Anglo critics that they are guests and freeloaders, living in a country (America) that was founded by Anglo-Saxons.
The Irish are cheered when they have their St. Patrick Day parades. The Italians, while they face some opposition from radical American Indians, are still able to celebrate Colombus' Day parades. The Mexicans celebrate Cinco de Mayo and Caesar Chavez day, while Blacks have their Martin Luther King day and Black history month. Germans have their Steuben societies, and Armenians, Greeks, Jews, Poles, Koreans, Chinese, and other groups have their ethnic organizations.
What is wrong with Mitt Romney being proud of his Anglo-Saxon culture - the culture that gave us America? Most Americans who are not ethnic Anglo-Saxons, envy them greatly, and try to make them ashamed of their heritage. I am not Anglo-Saxon myself, but I am thankful for those people for creating the most free nations of the civilized world - Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and, of course - America - the finest creation of the Anglo-Saxon people.
And many are of Scottish, Irish or Scots-Irish heritage (Scots who migrated to Ireland and after some generations, to the American south).
All of us.
The English, per se, were not given a special piece. They had to jump into the Eastern Protestant Reserve.
“We’re all very different people. We’re not Watusi. We’re not Spartans. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world.” - Stripes
One of my grandfathers was of pure New England Puritan descent; the other of Virginia settlers moving to the North Carolina mountains - ancestors came as early as the 1620s - English with a sprinkle of lowland Scots and Welsh - damn straight I’m proud of my heritage, North and South both.
I am English, Irish, Scots Irish, and Scots, and my family fought on both sides of the war between the States. These pride days could get confusing.
It might just be enough if we would be grateful for the life each one of us has been given by our Creator, just being a member of the human race...
The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; neither is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all life and breath and all things; and He made from one, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;
Sorry, the only days we “Anglo-Saxon” Southerners care about are Independence Day, Veterans’ Day, and Memorial Day. We don’t need any of that ethnic stuff. We are ethnically “American” and that’s about it.
But, by all means, keep on celebrating various “heritages.” We enjoy trying the food (except for the Haggis...). Besides, would you really want to celebrate a day with British cooking?
>>>And many are of Scottish, Irish or Scots-Irish heritage
In many cases, Scottish and Scotch-Irish Americans have some English ancestors, but prefer to identify with their non-English heritage. Because the American Revolution was fought against King George III of England, Americans of English heritage do not identify with their English heritage. The prefer to call themselves simply, “Americans”. Those who are part German, Irish, Italian, French, etc, mixed with English, prefer to identify with their non-English heritage. I hope that Romney changes this trend, and starts an English pride movement, which can strengthen the pride that American patriots of all ethnicities have in their history. When Obama returned Winston Churchill’s bust, it was not just an insult to Britain, it was an insult to America. Remember that Churchill’s mother was American.
You’re not allowed to have or express pride in your heritage unless your people came her as slaves over 200 years ago...get it?
I didn’t think the “Scots” in Scots-Irish were necessarily of full Celtic stock (e.g. Highlanders). More an amalgamation of the Angle, Saxon, Norman, Romano-British and Celtic blood lines that mixed and mingled for hundreds of years in the Midlands of England. Plus, was not even the “Irish” side more Anglo-Irish in culture than Celtic?
Worse than that, we are mostly white and that is unforgiveable!
We need Newt to teach a class on Western Civilization.
“...Southerners ... should put aside the old hatreds for their English cousins in the North over the Civil War...”
I don’t know what in the hell led you to that thought.
I am a Pict-American and I don’t get no respect.
I don’t think it matters a dingo’s kidney what someones heritage is. It only matters what their individual character is. We are by our nature individuals and not part of some collective. What some people have done who share my genetic background has no bearing on my life.
The Scots in Scots-Irish/Scotch-Irish/Ulster Scots were Lowlanders and Borderers.
From Ayrshire, the Borders, Galloway, Inverclyde, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.
“I would be happy to march with them, if invited.”
Someone once had the audacity to ask my father-in-law the following question; “You’re Italian, aren’t you?”
He stiffened his six-foot-three frame, walked up to the individual, looked him in the eye, and said the following in his gravelly voice and straightforward manner: “Hey, THIS is my country. I came here for a reason”, in all the seriousness he could muster.
The questioner, a hyphenated American, was taken aback and never asked the question again.
Those words still echo in my mind.
We can all learn to read “Beowulf” in the original language.
The current progressive (socialist) cabal would have us be ashamed for our heritage. I tell them that they can kiss my Royal Irish Ass and bark at the moon!
I am an American, not a hyphenated American, and I am proud of that! I will not be ashamed of my heritage and I will not accept guilt for that which I did not do!
What say we celebrate our Saxon heritage, lads!
Actually, I’m not anglo. My mom was 100% German, and my old man was 100% Dutch. (there might have been a little bit of polock thrown in!)
So I guess that makes me a barbarian, something like that.
My ancestors came here because of the German “Kulturkampf” in Poznan.
Shut up, grab a beer and cheer when everybody else does.
Oh, and grab another beer.
The Saxons themselves were interlopers who originally came from what is now Germany.
They, in turn, were victimized by interlopers from Normandy, who were the 3rd and 4th generations of viking invaders from Scandinavia that had successfully blackmailed the French out of some of their land.
The Scandinavian vikings probably came from what is now Finland and Russia which were, in turn, populated by invaders who came from the south and east of the areas located around the Black Sea and Turkish peninsula.
FUBO has overwhelmingly identified with blacks for years. Now he plays up his Anglo-Saxon heritage? Bugger off, FUBO, you are a tosser.
The language of invaders and interlopers. See my post #27. < / sarcasm >
Tell me about it! I'm Spanish, Italian, Irish, French Canadian, and Native American. On the other hand, I guess I can let myself in to quite a few celebrations...
Then, of course, some on the Right in America worship the Celts and have made Celtic identity and hostility to the "base, brutal, and bloody Saxon" the cornerstone of their claims to nationhood (the neo-Confederates, for example).
I had read that during the peak of the last ice age, the population of Europe was decimated, and worldwide, the human population fell to around 15,000 individuals.
People don’t seem to pay attention that the opposite of global warming is frozen tundra and cannibalism!
Oh, btw, Leftists also understand this, which is why they are perpetually trying to obliterate our way of life. First they must break down traditional shared values in order to fundamentally transform us into something more to their liking.
If we don't respect our own values how can we preserve them?
Let's revive Old English the way the Zionists revived Hebrew! Yeah, baby! I've always wanted a funny sounding, impossible-to-learn language of my own. Everybody else has one.
To read the history of the border country in Scotland should be required reading for libertarians.
Anglo-Saxon on both sides here. One side by way of Puritan NE (1630), the other by way of Georgia (and yes, I know what that means). The Yankee branch was very active in the Revolutionary War and early Federalist administrations with a signer of “the Declaration” among them. The “Reb” branch were all small farmers. You’re darned right I’m proud of my ancestry.
I don’t have a single drop of Anglo-Saxon blood in my veins (that I know of anyway). We’ve been solid Italian for centuries.
But because this country welcomed my parents and this is where I was raised, I need to speak up in defense of a people whom I love, and who the politically idiots have despicably trashed.
It royally ticks me off when people in this country whose ancestry is of the British Isles think they need to go chasing after some pseudo African/Native American/Asian because they are just “boring old white people” or whatever. Like these Elizabeth Warren types. Who go chasing after a 1/64th blood quantum to hold on to some tiny scrap of being Indian as if all the Northern European didn’t matter.
Are you kidding me? Seriously? I’d count it an honor to be descended from the Anglos who founded this nation or to those literary or cultural giants who shaped it, like Nathaniel Hawthorne.
The AngloAmerican culture is not some cultural null value whose only purpose is to make you feel bad about yourself for not being something else. There is some great heritage there...and folks I am saying this as an *Italian*....and we don’t take a backseat to anyone in that respect! My parents learned your language, they became citizens, they love this country. My dad grew up in Italy loving stories of the Old West, which he finally had the privilege to visit himself some years back.
Don’t apologize for being Anglo. Be proud of it. Work to weed out the bad and cultivate the good, yes, but be proud of who you are.
I am proud for you. And I am not the only son of immigrants who is, that I can assure you.
I was making a joke. Previously people might respect the Saxons more than the Angles - and the Normans more than the Saxons - due to admiration of WINNING.
In the current victimology idiocy - those poor poor Angles! Overrun by Saxon hordes! Apparently one should be proud of having ancestors on the losing side of history.
Me? I'm proud to be an American - and that should be plenty for anyone. The best that can be said of my ancestors was that they were smart enough to get the HELL OUT of Europe!
“Environmentalists” love them some Fiji and St. Barts, so why are they so down on warming? It’s all a plot to get rid of all those annoying other people, except the ones who work at their environmentally correct resorts (4:1 staff to guest ratio!).
One branch of my family settled in New England in 1624. That means we have been here 376 years. I think that is long enough to make us Americans. The rest seemed to have settled in the 1830s from Wales, Scot-Irish Antrim Co Ireland, Scotland, Germany and Bavaria. They brought with them no etnic language, food, holidays that have survived.
The one thing they did bring with them was the English law, the traditional notion of the rights of Englishmen and a history of fighting to wrest those rights from an oppressive monarchy. They brought a strong notion of individual freedom and responsibility, an ethic of hard work and entrepreneuralism, a Christian morality and a direction toward self government. Those are my traditions, my ethnic identity and ones that I will not easily give up.
LOL! Funny-sounding, yes, but as a project of invasion and assimilation, Old English is on the "simple and easy" end of the linguistic spectrum.
Modern Hebrew fits there, too, because of its revival from a literary to a spoken language, originally intended for adult learners. In a thousand years, maybe it will be an unlearnable disaster again.
See Genesis 10, The “Table of Nations”
as far as I know I come from Gomer.
Have you noticed that when the media uses the term “Anglo” that it is almost always pejorative?
I love haggis. I also like the German version called Saumagen (stuffed sow's stomach). Maybe it's because my ancestors came from Scotland and Lorraine.
I’m Southern, and my ancestors came from Surrey county in England. I am VERY proud of my heritage and I don’t care what PC whiner or minority has a problem with it.
That said-—”hatred” of Northern folks? Really? If you’re conservative and Northern, come on down. We simply don’t want any northeastern LIBERAL values down here. We also don’t want condescension or assumptions that we’re toothless and ignorant. That kind of thing tends to make you less welcome.