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Should Anglo-Saxon Americans Be Proud of their Heritage?

Posted on 07/27/2012 11:28:07 AM PDT by pinochet

Barack Obama made a trip to Ireland when he became President, and he bragged about the Irish heritage that he has on his mother's side. In his first book, he wrote about visiting Kenya, to celebrate his father's Kenyan roots. Then why is Mitt Romney being given a hard time on his visit to England, when one of his advisers mentioned that Romney is proud of his Anglo-Saxon heritage? Romney should tell his non-Anglo critics that they are guests and freeloaders, living in a country (America) that was founded by Anglo-Saxons.

The Irish are cheered when they have their St. Patrick Day parades. The Italians, while they face some opposition from radical American Indians, are still able to celebrate Colombus' Day parades. The Mexicans celebrate Cinco de Mayo and Caesar Chavez day, while Blacks have their Martin Luther King day and Black history month. Germans have their Steuben societies, and Armenians, Greeks, Jews, Poles, Koreans, Chinese, and other groups have their ethnic organizations.

What is wrong with Mitt Romney being proud of his Anglo-Saxon culture - the culture that gave us America? Most Americans who are not ethnic Anglo-Saxons, envy them greatly, and try to make them ashamed of their heritage. I am not Anglo-Saxon myself, but I am thankful for those people for creating the most free nations of the civilized world - Britain, Canada, Australia, New Zealand, and, of course - America - the finest creation of the Anglo-Saxon people.


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Many Southerners are of English heritage. They should put aside the old hatreds for their English cousins in the North over the Civil War, and celebrate their shared English heritage. If the Irish can have their St. Patrick's Day parade, English Americans can have St. George's Day parades. I would be happy to march with them, if invited, despite the fact that my heritage is Southern European. Mitt Romney should publicly declare that he is Anglo-Saxon and proud of it. His people should have an English pride movement, and make English the official language of the United States.
1 posted on 07/27/2012 11:28:11 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet
Many Southerners are of English heritage.

And many are of Scottish, Irish or Scots-Irish heritage (Scots who migrated to Ireland and after some generations, to the American south).

2 posted on 07/27/2012 11:32:58 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("Real men are not threatened by strong women." -- Sarah Palin)
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To: pinochet
In the 21st century you can -- indeed must -- express bigotry toward all Christians and all White culture, at all times.
To fail to express disdain for these things is to be a perpetrator of a hate crime against African Americans and Communists.
3 posted on 07/27/2012 11:33:16 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: pinochet

Heck no.

We’re scum.

All of us.


4 posted on 07/27/2012 11:35:33 AM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: pinochet
America ~ our America ~ begins with the Treaty of London (1604) where the KIng of Spain, hardly an Englishman (although his father had been) crammed down a treaty to all the other Europeans that carved North America into broad zones for their development.

The English, per se, were not given a special piece. They had to jump into the Eastern Protestant Reserve.

5 posted on 07/27/2012 11:37:06 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: pinochet

“We’re all very different people. We’re not Watusi. We’re not Spartans. We’re Americans, with a capital ‘A’, huh? You know what that means? Do ya? That means that our forefathers were kicked out of every decent country in the world.” - Stripes


6 posted on 07/27/2012 11:37:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: pinochet

One of my grandfathers was of pure New England Puritan descent; the other of Virginia settlers moving to the North Carolina mountains - ancestors came as early as the 1620s - English with a sprinkle of lowland Scots and Welsh - damn straight I’m proud of my heritage, North and South both.


7 posted on 07/27/2012 11:37:36 AM PDT by heartwood
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To: pinochet

I am English, Irish, Scots Irish, and Scots, and my family fought on both sides of the war between the States. These pride days could get confusing.


8 posted on 07/27/2012 11:39:36 AM PDT by Little Bill
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To: pinochet

It might just be enough if we would be grateful for the life each one of us has been given by our Creator, just being a member of the human race...

The God who made the world and all things in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands; neither is He served by human hands, as though He needed anything, since He Himself gives to all life and breath and all things; and He made from one, every nation of mankind to live on all the face of the earth, having determined their appointed times, and the boundaries of their habitation, that they should seek God, if perhaps they might grope for Him and find Him, though He is not far from each one of us;
[Acts 17:24-27


9 posted on 07/27/2012 11:44:13 AM PDT by TurkeyLurkey
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To: pinochet

Sorry, the only days we “Anglo-Saxon” Southerners care about are Independence Day, Veterans’ Day, and Memorial Day. We don’t need any of that ethnic stuff. We are ethnically “American” and that’s about it.

But, by all means, keep on celebrating various “heritages.” We enjoy trying the food (except for the Haggis...). Besides, would you really want to celebrate a day with British cooking?


10 posted on 07/27/2012 11:46:39 AM PDT by Little Ray (AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Albion Wilde

>>>And many are of Scottish, Irish or Scots-Irish heritage

In many cases, Scottish and Scotch-Irish Americans have some English ancestors, but prefer to identify with their non-English heritage. Because the American Revolution was fought against King George III of England, Americans of English heritage do not identify with their English heritage. The prefer to call themselves simply, “Americans”. Those who are part German, Irish, Italian, French, etc, mixed with English, prefer to identify with their non-English heritage. I hope that Romney changes this trend, and starts an English pride movement, which can strengthen the pride that American patriots of all ethnicities have in their history. When Obama returned Winston Churchill’s bust, it was not just an insult to Britain, it was an insult to America. Remember that Churchill’s mother was American.


11 posted on 07/27/2012 11:49:37 AM PDT by pinochet
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To: pinochet

You’re not allowed to have or express pride in your heritage unless your people came her as slaves over 200 years ago...get it?


12 posted on 07/27/2012 11:53:59 AM PDT by SMARTY ("The man who has no inner-life is a slave to his surroundings. "Henri Frederic Amiel)
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To: Albion Wilde

I didn’t think the “Scots” in Scots-Irish were necessarily of full Celtic stock (e.g. Highlanders). More an amalgamation of the Angle, Saxon, Norman, Romano-British and Celtic blood lines that mixed and mingled for hundreds of years in the Midlands of England. Plus, was not even the “Irish” side more Anglo-Irish in culture than Celtic?


13 posted on 07/27/2012 11:55:21 AM PDT by mkboyce
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To: djf

Worse than that, we are mostly white and that is unforgiveable!


14 posted on 07/27/2012 11:56:00 AM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: pinochet
Only the Anglo part - after all the Angles were brutally victimized and overrun by those awful Saxons!/s
15 posted on 07/27/2012 11:57:26 AM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: pinochet

American heritage.

We need Newt to teach a class on Western Civilization.


16 posted on 07/27/2012 11:57:33 AM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney)
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To: pinochet

“...Southerners ... should put aside the old hatreds for their English cousins in the North over the Civil War...”
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I don’t know what in the hell led you to that thought.

I am a Pict-American and I don’t get no respect.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 11:57:43 AM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: pinochet

I don’t think it matters a dingo’s kidney what someones heritage is. It only matters what their individual character is. We are by our nature individuals and not part of some collective. What some people have done who share my genetic background has no bearing on my life.


18 posted on 07/27/2012 11:58:33 AM PDT by albionin (A gawn fit's aye gettin.)
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To: mkboyce

The Scots in Scots-Irish/Scotch-Irish/Ulster Scots were Lowlanders and Borderers.

From Ayrshire, the Borders, Galloway, Inverclyde, Glasgow, Lanarkshire.


19 posted on 07/27/2012 11:59:33 AM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: pinochet

“I would be happy to march with them, if invited.”

Same here.

Someone once had the audacity to ask my father-in-law the following question; “You’re Italian, aren’t you?”

He stiffened his six-foot-three frame, walked up to the individual, looked him in the eye, and said the following in his gravelly voice and straightforward manner: “Hey, THIS is my country. I came here for a reason”, in all the seriousness he could muster.

The questioner, a hyphenated American, was taken aback and never asked the question again.

Those words still echo in my mind.

R.I.P. Carl.


20 posted on 07/27/2012 12:00:13 PM PDT by ripley
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To: pinochet; Anoreth

We can all learn to read “Beowulf” in the original language.


21 posted on 07/27/2012 12:01:09 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("To contracept is to rebuke a woman for being a woman." ~ Donald DeMarco)
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To: Redleg Duke
One quarter Scots-Irish and three-quarters German. Damned proud of my ancestors who had the common sense and courage to leave that cesspool called "The Old Country" and take a chance on a place where we were judged on who we were and not who our parents were!

The current progressive (socialist) cabal would have us be ashamed for our heritage. I tell them that they can kiss my Royal Irish Ass and bark at the moon!

I am an American, not a hyphenated American, and I am proud of that! I will not be ashamed of my heritage and I will not accept guilt for that which I did not do!

22 posted on 07/27/2012 12:01:22 PM PDT by Redleg Duke ("Madison, Wisconsin is 30 square miles surrounded by reality.", L. S. Dryfus)
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To: pinochet

What say we celebrate our Saxon heritage, lads!

23 posted on 07/27/2012 12:05:09 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: Redleg Duke

Actually, I’m not anglo. My mom was 100% German, and my old man was 100% Dutch. (there might have been a little bit of polock thrown in!)

So I guess that makes me a barbarian, something like that.


24 posted on 07/27/2012 12:05:33 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Redleg Duke

My ancestors came here because of the German “Kulturkampf” in Poznan.


25 posted on 07/27/2012 12:06:41 PM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: Little Bill

Shut up, grab a beer and cheer when everybody else does.

Easy!

Oh, and grab another beer.


26 posted on 07/27/2012 12:10:38 PM PDT by jagusafr
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To: allmendream
Only the Anglo part - after all the Angles were brutally victimized and overrun by those awful Saxons!/s

The Saxons themselves were interlopers who originally came from what is now Germany.

They, in turn, were victimized by interlopers from Normandy, who were the 3rd and 4th generations of viking invaders from Scandinavia that had successfully blackmailed the French out of some of their land.

The Scandinavian vikings probably came from what is now Finland and Russia which were, in turn, populated by invaders who came from the south and east of the areas located around the Black Sea and Turkish peninsula.

27 posted on 07/27/2012 12:13:16 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: pinochet

FUBO has overwhelmingly identified with blacks for years. Now he plays up his Anglo-Saxon heritage? Bugger off, FUBO, you are a tosser.


28 posted on 07/27/2012 12:13:41 PM PDT by TexasRepublic (Socialism is the gospel of envy and the religion of thieves)
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To: Tax-chick
We can all learn to read “Beowulf” in the original language.

The language of invaders and interlopers. See my post #27. < / sarcasm >

29 posted on 07/27/2012 12:15:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Little Bill
I am English, Irish, Scots Irish, and Scots, and my family fought on both sides of the war between the States. These pride days could get confusing.

Tell me about it! I'm Spanish, Italian, Irish, French Canadian, and Native American. On the other hand, I guess I can let myself in to quite a few celebrations...

30 posted on 07/27/2012 12:16:26 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: pinochet
Anglo-Saxons are the one ethnic group in all the world who are not allowed to celebrate their ethnicity--not only in America, but anywhere else. Even in England itself the Irish, Scots, and Welsh are celebrated but not the English. Like everywhere else on the globe the English are the "abstract host population" of the United Kingdom and are expected to celebrate all the Celtic identities while merely being abstractions themselves.

Then, of course, some on the Right in America worship the Celts and have made Celtic identity and hostility to the "base, brutal, and bloody Saxon" the cornerstone of their claims to nationhood (the neo-Confederates, for example).

31 posted on 07/27/2012 12:18:17 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: Vigilanteman

I had read that during the peak of the last ice age, the population of Europe was decimated, and worldwide, the human population fell to around 15,000 individuals.

Brutal!

People don’t seem to pay attention that the opposite of global warming is frozen tundra and cannibalism!


32 posted on 07/27/2012 12:18:27 PM PDT by djf ("There are more old drunkards than old doctors." - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: pinochet

Hell yes!!!!!


33 posted on 07/27/2012 12:19:09 PM PDT by pgkdan (ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!)
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To: pinochet
If a tactic is continuously employed it is because it is working. The guilt over slavery crap works because white people allow it to work.
34 posted on 07/27/2012 12:19:40 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: pinochet
It's all well and good to be proud of our individual heritage. I am. But that isn't nearly as substantive as honoring our overarching values. This we can define and nurture, build upon past achievements, enjoy the rewards now, and promote and pass them along to successive generations...so it's more relevant, since we can actually participate in it.

Oh, btw, Leftists also understand this, which is why they are perpetually trying to obliterate our way of life. First they must break down traditional shared values in order to fundamentally transform us into something more to their liking.

If we don't respect our own values how can we preserve them?

35 posted on 07/27/2012 12:21:03 PM PDT by Dysart (You didn't post that. Someone else made that happen.)
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To: Tax-chick
We can all learn to read “Beowulf” in the original language.

Let's revive Old English the way the Zionists revived Hebrew! Yeah, baby! I've always wanted a funny sounding, impossible-to-learn language of my own. Everybody else has one.

36 posted on 07/27/2012 12:21:03 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (Ki-hagoy vehamamlakhah 'asher lo'-ya`avdukh yove'du; vehagoyim charov yecheravu!)
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To: mkboyce
You're close to right, many of the Scots Borderers were English, who fell on the North side of the line and liked to speak English even more strangely than their cousins to the South.

To read the history of the border country in Scotland should be required reading for libertarians.

37 posted on 07/27/2012 12:24:29 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: pinochet
When I was in the Army, they celebrated African-American, Asian-American, Pacific Islanders,Spanish heritage MONTHS. There was NEVER anything for Caucasian peoples month, week, or hour. I was told that would be racist when I asked one of my sergeants about it.
38 posted on 07/27/2012 12:24:52 PM PDT by RetiredArmy (You can almost hear the footsteps of Jesus. He is right at the door!)
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To: heartwood

Anglo-Saxon on both sides here. One side by way of Puritan NE (1630), the other by way of Georgia (and yes, I know what that means). The Yankee branch was very active in the Revolutionary War and early Federalist administrations with a signer of “the Declaration” among them. The “Reb” branch were all small farmers. You’re darned right I’m proud of my ancestry.


39 posted on 07/27/2012 12:27:11 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog
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To: pinochet

I don’t have a single drop of Anglo-Saxon blood in my veins (that I know of anyway). We’ve been solid Italian for centuries.

But because this country welcomed my parents and this is where I was raised, I need to speak up in defense of a people whom I love, and who the politically idiots have despicably trashed.

It royally ticks me off when people in this country whose ancestry is of the British Isles think they need to go chasing after some pseudo African/Native American/Asian because they are just “boring old white people” or whatever. Like these Elizabeth Warren types. Who go chasing after a 1/64th blood quantum to hold on to some tiny scrap of being Indian as if all the Northern European didn’t matter.

Are you kidding me? Seriously? I’d count it an honor to be descended from the Anglos who founded this nation or to those literary or cultural giants who shaped it, like Nathaniel Hawthorne.

The AngloAmerican culture is not some cultural null value whose only purpose is to make you feel bad about yourself for not being something else. There is some great heritage there...and folks I am saying this as an *Italian*....and we don’t take a backseat to anyone in that respect! My parents learned your language, they became citizens, they love this country. My dad grew up in Italy loving stories of the Old West, which he finally had the privilege to visit himself some years back.

Don’t apologize for being Anglo. Be proud of it. Work to weed out the bad and cultivate the good, yes, but be proud of who you are.

I am proud for you. And I am not the only son of immigrants who is, that I can assure you.


40 posted on 07/27/2012 12:27:19 PM PDT by Claud
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To: djf; blam

Education Ping.


41 posted on 07/27/2012 12:30:36 PM PDT by Little Bill
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To: Vigilanteman
The Norman conquest was why the nobility of England spoke French for so long.

I was making a joke. Previously people might respect the Saxons more than the Angles - and the Normans more than the Saxons - due to admiration of WINNING.

In the current victimology idiocy - those poor poor Angles! Overrun by Saxon hordes! Apparently one should be proud of having ancestors on the losing side of history.

Me? I'm proud to be an American - and that should be plenty for anyone. The best that can be said of my ancestors was that they were smart enough to get the HELL OUT of Europe!

42 posted on 07/27/2012 12:33:23 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: djf; Vigilanteman

“Environmentalists” love them some Fiji and St. Barts, so why are they so down on warming? It’s all a plot to get rid of all those annoying other people, except the ones who work at their environmentally correct resorts (4:1 staff to guest ratio!).


43 posted on 07/27/2012 12:40:18 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("To contracept is to rebuke a woman for being a woman." ~ Donald DeMarco)
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To: Claud

One branch of my family settled in New England in 1624. That means we have been here 376 years. I think that is long enough to make us Americans. The rest seemed to have settled in the 1830s from Wales, Scot-Irish Antrim Co Ireland, Scotland, Germany and Bavaria. They brought with them no etnic language, food, holidays that have survived.

The one thing they did bring with them was the English law, the traditional notion of the rights of Englishmen and a history of fighting to wrest those rights from an oppressive monarchy. They brought a strong notion of individual freedom and responsibility, an ethic of hard work and entrepreneuralism, a Christian morality and a direction toward self government. Those are my traditions, my ethnic identity and ones that I will not easily give up.


44 posted on 07/27/2012 12:43:17 PM PDT by marsh2
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To: Zionist Conspirator
I've always wanted a funny sounding, impossible-to-learn language of my own. Everybody else has one.

LOL! Funny-sounding, yes, but as a project of invasion and assimilation, Old English is on the "simple and easy" end of the linguistic spectrum.

Modern Hebrew fits there, too, because of its revival from a literary to a spoken language, originally intended for adult learners. In a thousand years, maybe it will be an unlearnable disaster again.

45 posted on 07/27/2012 12:46:31 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("To contracept is to rebuke a woman for being a woman." ~ Donald DeMarco)
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To: Vigilanteman

See Genesis 10, The “Table of Nations”
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sons_of_Noah

as far as I know I come from Gomer.


46 posted on 07/27/2012 12:52:12 PM PDT by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: pinochet

Have you noticed that when the media uses the term “Anglo” that it is almost always pejorative?


47 posted on 07/27/2012 12:52:43 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: Little Ray
We enjoy trying the food (except for the Haggis

I love haggis. I also like the German version called Saumagen (stuffed sow's stomach). Maybe it's because my ancestors came from Scotland and Lorraine.

48 posted on 07/27/2012 12:56:42 PM PDT by Fiji Hill (Deo Vindice!)
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To: pinochet

I’m Southern, and my ancestors came from Surrey county in England. I am VERY proud of my heritage and I don’t care what PC whiner or minority has a problem with it.

That said-—”hatred” of Northern folks? Really? If you’re conservative and Northern, come on down. We simply don’t want any northeastern LIBERAL values down here. We also don’t want condescension or assumptions that we’re toothless and ignorant. That kind of thing tends to make you less welcome.


49 posted on 07/27/2012 1:02:33 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: Little Bill
I am English, Irish, Scots-Irish . . . and about 10% Scotch . . . Glenlivet if I can find it. :)

Just couldn't resist it.
50 posted on 07/27/2012 1:05:47 PM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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