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To: NoLibZone

Buchanan hasn’t been right about anything his entire life. He’s properly attacked here on FR for his views. Why would any rational person believe him now?


15 posted on 07/27/2012 7:04:20 PM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: sergeantdave

Buchanan gets a portion of things right.

Others not so much.

He’s like most people that way.


17 posted on 07/27/2012 7:09:29 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (America doesn't need any new laws. America needs freedom!)
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To: sergeantdave

Name one thing Buchanan has been wrong on.


21 posted on 07/27/2012 7:13:54 PM PDT by donna ("...gay couples raising kids. That's the American way..." -Mitt Romney)
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To: sergeantdave

Argumentum ad hominem is a fallacy. What are the errors?
And I’ve been saying this since 1994, before I was even 18 and I am not Pat Buchanan.


23 posted on 07/27/2012 7:15:16 PM PDT by rmlew ("Mosques are our barracks, minarets our bayonets, domes our helmets, the believers our soldiers.")
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To: sergeantdave
He's always been right on immigration and his views on trade policy and their results are obvious.
25 posted on 07/27/2012 7:15:55 PM PDT by Theoria (Rush Limbaugh: Ron Paul sounds like an Islamic terrorist)
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To: sergeantdave; Linda Frances; Seaplaner; Strategerist; moonshot925

If you don’t like Buchanan that’s fine, but try responding to the points he’s making here, especially as it relates to demographics.

Put aside all the stuff about Israel and Iran. How can any rational person, especially a conservative, believe that mass immigration from Latin America, Asia, and Africa will be anything except a demographic bonanza for the Democrats? These groups are voting exactly as a rational person would expect them to vote; for Democrats!

So just answer the question Buchanan poses; “Why should poor, working- and middle-class Hispanics, the vast majority, vote for a party that will reduce taxes they don’t pay, but cut the benefits they do receive?”

Buchanan is absolutely right about that, something Republicans should have realized all along.

And what about Texas? The Lone Star State is solidly Republican right now for one major reason...the GOP’s ability to routinely win 70+% of the white vote. Hispanics in Texas may be less Democratic than their counterparts in California, but they still vote solidly Democrat in virtually every important statewide race. I disagree with Buchanan’s analysis of Texas’ future somewhat because of the white vote. If the GOP can keep winning such a large majority of it, then they will avoid a California-like collapse into irrelevancy. But I can easily see demographics making Texas a battleground state, which would be disastrous enough for the GOP.

When the obituary of the GOP/conservative movement is written, and if it’s written honestly, the question won’t be why people like Buchanan were so mean and hostile (to borrow the Left’s framing and narrative of it) to immigrants, but rather why the GOP ever allowed decades of mass immigration that any rational person could see would definitely benefit the Democrats. The Stupid Party indeed.


105 posted on 07/28/2012 12:08:55 AM PDT by Aetius
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