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Average Americans don't need assault weapons
CNN ^ | Sun July 29, 2012 | By Roland Martin, CNN Contributor

Posted on 07/29/2012 8:40:38 PM PDT by redreno

CNN) -- To all of you gun lovers, feel free to go buy your Glock, shotgun, hunting rifle, .22 pistol, .357 Magnum or any of the other guns at your disposal.

But you do not need an AK-47.

For some, it's too soon to discuss gun reform, a little more than one week after the mass killings in Aurora, Colorado. I disagree. Too many Americans are being killed by guns every day; this most recent heinous tragedy should not keep us from having a rational debate.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; Philosophy
KEYWORDS: 2012; banglist; democrats; fastandfurious; govtabuse; gunrunner; guns; liberalfascism; semiautomaticrifle; shallnotbeinfringed; tyranny; youwillnotdisarmus
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To: Norm Lenhart
One thing about the women in our family--you just don't want to pi$$ 'em off.

Grandma has a T-shirt that says "Go ahead and run. You'll just die tired.", and she can shoot well enough to back it up.

I taught the granddaughters to shoot, and they're pretty good with a rifle, too.

101 posted on 07/30/2012 2:55:40 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: redreno
But you do not need an AK-47.

For this pantywaist writer:

When the police put up their .38 specials in favor of Glock .40s and decided they were 'so outgunned' by the criminal class that they needed select fire Stoner variant rifles (M-16s) to keep up with the thugs, In order for me to adequately defend my family it became necessary for me to possess the most capable firearm I could afford.

After a great deal of research, there were two firearms which shone in terms of reliability: The M1A and the AK-47. Pity I had trouble affording the former, and the latter we could afford to obtain were watered down semiautomatic versions of the most widely used battle rifle in the world.

Why a 'battle rifle'? Well, because criminals can arm themselves with anything, they have nothing to lose, and do not operate within the law like those of us who try to color within the lines do. Literally anything they can find and afford is fair game--after all, that's why the police forces around the country told us they were upgrading their arsenals.

Now, at the time, a reliable, East Bloc firearm was selling for between $250 and $350, magazines (they aren't clips, BTW) were fairly cheap, and the ammo was, too. The SKS, another reliable but slightly less capable rifle was only about $100.00, and it used the same ammo as the semiautomatic AK clone, just generally 10 rounds before reloading, instead of 27 (only load your magazines to 90% to prevent malfunctions).

For about $500.00, a couple could have enough arms and ammo to defend their home against all sorts of miscreants--cheaper than the average decent pistol--and with enough ammo to become reasonably proficient.

Now, alarms only make noise and call the folks who will figure out what happened before they arrived. All that's fine if you live somewhere response times are down in the single digits, but most places just aren't like that, and out here in the boonies, the best advice I ever got came from a County Sheriff who learned I had been threatened by one of the criminal class and only had three deputies to cover a huge area: "Just be sure you are the one around to fill out the paperwork."

Yes, I need an AK. Any further questions?

102 posted on 07/30/2012 3:13:36 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: redreno

We don’t “need” CNN, either...


103 posted on 07/30/2012 3:16:33 AM PDT by abb ("What ISN'T in the news is often more important than what IS." Ed Biersmith, 1942 -)
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To: redreno

Roland Martin:

Flaming racist leftard, Obama apologist and CNN talking head.

Not worth the time of day.


104 posted on 07/30/2012 3:23:46 AM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: West Texas Chuck

If 0bummer gets re-elected, everything changes on Nov 7th. He has nothing left to worry about. I’d bet the legal paperwork for the most draconian gun ban laws is already drawn-up and waiting for his signature. He’s bypass USA Congress & SCOTUS, EO-ing everything he wants.


105 posted on 07/30/2012 3:52:26 AM PDT by Carriage Hill (All libs and most dems think that life is just a sponge bath, with a happy ending.)
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To: redreno

He is right really... you don’t need an AK-47 when an SKS will do the job just fine.... 7.62x39


106 posted on 07/30/2012 4:15:53 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: BuffaloJack

do not forget tanks, aircraft and warships ( if you can afford them ) most libs would be stunned to learn that during and after the revolutionary war, the fledgling United States LEASED warships from private owners ... same with cannon...

hell, in some ways the colonists pre-revolution had more freedom than we do now...


107 posted on 07/30/2012 4:19:17 AM PDT by joe fonebone (I am the 15%)
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To: redreno

I agree with the headline. Average Americans DO NOT need assault weapons. I don’t have one, nor do I want one.

But it’s sure great that my neighbor on one side has one, and so do two people up the street. And it’s great that I can still buy one, when I do think it will be necessary, and when I think that I can safely handle and store it.

And I’ll vote AGAINST anyone that wants to change any of the above.


108 posted on 07/30/2012 4:25:51 AM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
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To: redreno
No worries. The idiots in the media do not realize that AK-47s can be constructed using simple tools. A semi-skilled machinist with a decently equipped metal shop could churn out AKs with abandon.

When I had HS shop back in the day we had a guy make a 1911 frame. Some ninnyhammer got wind of it and there was a stink.

Obviously, the soloution is to ban metal shops and lock up all the machinists.

109 posted on 07/30/2012 4:35:09 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: redreno

And yet another classic example of how stupid the gun grabbers really are. So ‘assault’ rifles are bad, but handguns are ok? I wonder if this idiot is aware than about 80% of all gun-related crime involves the use of a handgun, compared to around 5% with any kind of rifle?

We’re dealing with morons, folks.


110 posted on 07/30/2012 4:40:18 AM PDT by VOR78
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To: ASA Vet
Do you know a good source of .303 ammo and strippers? It seems to have suddenly dried up or gotten expensive. I've seen the strippers going for $3 each.

The mag will set you back $40. I know a source of new ones in the wrapper. I can FReepmail it if you want it.

111 posted on 07/30/2012 4:50:39 AM PDT by jboot (OPSEC. It's a killjoy, but it may save your life someday.)
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To: redreno

“But you do not need an AK-47.”

Hell, I don’t *need* a car. I could walk, or bike.

However, life is not all about “need”. In this country, if we “want” something, and it’s legal, we may get it.

There’s absolutely nothing wrong with Americans owning AR rifles, or AKs if they prefer to slum a little bit. There is a proud tradition of Americans owning and shooting the same rifles used by the military. AR rifles make great hunting and target rifles, with the added benefit that if necessary they are also fine defensive weapons, especially with hi-cap magazines.

What I really don’t need is some joker from CNN telling me what to do. I hope he ends up in a SHTF situation with nothing but his bare hands...


112 posted on 07/30/2012 4:54:01 AM PDT by PreciousLiberty (Pray for America!!!)
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To: ASA Vet; West Texas Chuck

“And a one MEEEELLION bullet clip to go with it.”

“Bullet clip”?

A picture REALLY is worth a thousand words. Thanks.


113 posted on 07/30/2012 5:01:03 AM PDT by panaxanax (Voting 'Third Party' will ensure a Communist-Marxist-Socialist dominated Supreme Court!)
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To: redreno

Sure they do! With all of the gun grabbing commies trying to infringe on the 2nd amendment and other rights Americans need them more than ever.


114 posted on 07/30/2012 5:02:57 AM PDT by Caipirabob (I say we take off and Newt the site from orbit. It's the only way to be sure...)
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To: BuffaloJack
The 2nd amendment was meant to insure that citizens could possess weapons sufficient to confront a trained army. In my mind this should be interpreted in that you should be able to own anything up to and including a heavy machine gun, bazooka or even artillery.

What Scalia said on FOX this last weekend was his interpretation of "bear arms" meant what a single citizen could carry. Which would be the same as what a foot soldier would be able to carry. As for ships and artillery (18th century or today) acquisition of those would require a FAIR FIGHT between the now rogue tyrant militia of the federal government and the new revolutionary civilian militia. No one wants massive destructive weapons in the hands of the Chicago SEIU or ACORN, or the TEA party. Those will have to be fought for and won. It will be mess, costly and very bloody but revolutions are just that. But it it the common citizen that must have an EQUAL fighting chance against federal foot soldiers. They knew back then that urban sniper and terror tactics can defeat even the largest and best equipped armies.

115 posted on 07/30/2012 5:22:38 AM PDT by USCG SimTech (Honored to serve since '71)
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To: jboot

No I don’t, sorry.


116 posted on 07/30/2012 5:43:33 AM PDT by ASA Vet (Natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. De Vattel)
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To: redreno
I think ICE-T had the right response to those who want to restrict the average Joe’s access to any form of self defense weapons.

Guns are required to stand up to a repressive government.

If I was the NRA I would get ICE-T’s written permission to rerun that quote every time a liberal-progressive-socalists-dimocrat claim that there is no need for the average Joe to have “assault” weapons. I would then also replay the final assault at Waco and then end with “Questions?”

117 posted on 07/30/2012 5:57:41 AM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: redreno

The VAST majority of gun crimes are pistols. An AR, AK or any type of rifle is seldom used.

That said, for defending your home, I have pistols in case I run out of rifle ammo. Rifles are much more lethal in skilled hands.


118 posted on 07/30/2012 6:04:41 AM PDT by IamConservative (Well done is better than well said. - Ben Franklin)
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To: redreno

I’m not looking for an AK-47. I’m waiting for this maxim to unfold: Your enemy will bring to you the weapons you need to defeat him - Mao Tsetung.

I’m sure the untrained 400-pound morons in homelend security will drop off something much better than an AK.


119 posted on 07/30/2012 6:06:27 AM PDT by sergeantdave (Public unions exist to protect the unions from the taxpaying public)
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To: redreno

In my best Archie Bunker voice: “Would it make you feel any better, little liberal, if they was pushed out of windows?”


120 posted on 07/30/2012 7:10:56 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Rose, there's a Messerschmitt in the kitchen. Clean it up, will ya?)
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