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27 gigawatts of coal-fired capacity to retire over next five years
Energy Information Administration ^ | July 27, 2012 | Energy Information Administration

Posted on 07/30/2012 5:34:13 AM PDT by thackney

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1 posted on 07/30/2012 5:34:25 AM PDT by thackney
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Seriously, though, everyone who's hooked up to natgas should have a standby generator for the "down" times and the rolling blackouts. My hope is that it will hit the libs the hardest.

2 posted on 07/30/2012 5:37:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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We have a 300 year supply of coal and Osama Obama & Friends want every bit of it kept in the ground.Why should *they* care? Electricity at $1/kWh is no problem for them.Their $50 million book deals and their trust funds will take care of it easily.
3 posted on 07/30/2012 5:41:58 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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Another “gift” we owe liberals for. What a horrible waste of money, both tax-payer and corporate, for no other reason than the pursuit of another liberal chimera, AGW.


4 posted on 07/30/2012 5:42:20 AM PDT by Sudetenland (Member of the BBB Club - Bye-Bye-Barry!!! President Barack "Down Low" Obama)
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To: thackney

And we’re eliminating other potential sources of hydro power by ripping out dams. I just read about another near Traverse city Michigan yesterday. The estimated cost of a modern generator retrofit is around $2 million and the cost of tearing the dam out is about the same. However the retrofit would actually produce power for years to come and tearing the dam out will forever remove it as a potential producer.

Things are gonna get real bad in coming years.


5 posted on 07/30/2012 5:43:02 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: thackney

Eye popping, heart fluttering, gasping for air related article:

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/22/obamas-war-on-coal-hits-your-electric-bill/


6 posted on 07/30/2012 5:44:19 AM PDT by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: thackney

We can FIRE OBAMA FIRST!

Then, Romney can fire the necessary EPA staff, and overturn ALL orders to close power plants, and restart our exploration and recovery.

Cars w Obama stickers on them shouldn’t be allowed to fill up at gas stations.


7 posted on 07/30/2012 5:48:32 AM PDT by G Larry (I'm under no obligation to be a passive victim!)
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The market-clearing price for new 2015 capacity – almost all natural gas – was $136 per megawatt. That’s eight times higher than the price for 2012, which was just $16 per megawatt.

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/05/22/obamas-war-on-coal-hits-your-electric-bill/#ixzz226r9ul4j

Elections have consequences, BTTT

8 posted on 07/30/2012 5:48:45 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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Thack, my biggest electrical expenditure by far is A/C.

Is there any potential on nat gas powered home A/C units?

Or maybe even crazier, what are the economics of at home nat gas powered electrical generation?


9 posted on 07/30/2012 5:52:48 AM PDT by nascarnation
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To: rockinqsranch

Even with several Dems voting for it, that Senate resolution stopping Obama went to defeat thanks to Snowe, Collins, Ayott, Alexander and Brown voting with the rest of the Dems.....


10 posted on 07/30/2012 5:55:21 AM PDT by SW6906 (6 things you can't have too much of: sex, money, firewood, horsepower, guns and ammunition.)
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To: G Larry
Then, Romney can fire the necessary EPA staff, and overturn ALL orders to close power plants, and restart our exploration and recovery.

And I expect tapioca pudding to be a lot spicier than it was last time I tried it.
11 posted on 07/30/2012 6:01:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: nascarnation
http://www.gasairconditioning.org/robur_how_it_works.htm

Just as campers have natural gas refrigerators available, nat gas AC is available.

But if a huge amount of coal-fired power generation is shut down, do not expect natural gas to stay cheap, IMO.

12 posted on 07/30/2012 6:03:22 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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True enough, the GOP were right there helping to impose the great lakes drilling ban too.


13 posted on 07/30/2012 6:03:42 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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“Relative prices of natural gas and coal as sources of energy, which have moved in favor of natural gas with the boom in shale gas production” This is due to the regs that Obama placed on the indusrty right? I want to say something uneducated like FUBO but this is a situation that is self explanatory. Obama said about coal...
“So if somebody wants to build a coal-powered plant, they can; it’s just that it will bankrupt them because they’re going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted”

Read more: http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2008/11/02/hidden-audio-obama-tells-sf-chronicle-he-will-bankrupt-coal-industry#ixzz226vqLVJ3


14 posted on 07/30/2012 6:09:09 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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It all comes down to pipeline schedules and how fast we build pipes from where the new gas is being found to deliver to where it will be consumed.

The price will be influenced by that more than anything.


15 posted on 07/30/2012 6:15:30 AM PDT by King_Corey (www.kingcorey.com -- OpenCarry.org)
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So folks know, I know he said this but it took me a minute to find it, it sure as hell wasn’t the first hit while searching Barack Obama on coal.........


16 posted on 07/30/2012 6:18:12 AM PDT by VaRepublican (I would propagate taglines but I don't know how. But bloggers do.)
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To: nascarnation
I don't think gas could get cheap enough to make it economical to power your home through a NG generator. I've looked into it. The equipment cost alone would cost you more than your electrical bill for 18 months, depending on how much you use.

Look into radiant barriers, attic fans, and evaporative cooling (depending on your climate). I have the radiant barrier sheathing and you can really tell that it is cooler in the house than outside. Plus, with a walkout basement, an attic fan and a sprinkler set up outside the "intake" through the basement windows, it has to get really hot to be unbearable.

Here's a book:

Found at THE source for alternative energy and money saving ideas:
Steven Harris' site

17 posted on 07/30/2012 6:19:01 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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Well Mr B, based on the map of closures, you just might get your wish, but the way I understand how the grid works, by switching magic my guess would be we are all going to suffer equally. You know, the “fairness doctrine”.

Of course, when I was about ten or twelve, I understood the fairness doctrine to be what it was, horse hockey. The world isn’t fair, and if you build your life on the premise, you are sure to be disappointed all your days. Not aimed at you Mr B.

This EPA insanity is called by one local power company, “the train wreck”. It is a list of dates related to all of the demands on power companies to comply with the insanity. Believe me they cannot afford not to comply unless the full faith and sovereignty of the state in which they reside is behind them.

I personally have not yet seen the states rising up in anger at this treatment of their citizens, but if the cold hits and the blackouts occur, or the heat wave is not cooled by air conditioning, maybe they will get with it.


18 posted on 07/30/2012 6:25:11 AM PDT by wita
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Cars w Obama stickers on them shouldn’t be allowed to fill up at gas stations.

Now there is a leading statement. Oh how I would love to add thereto.


19 posted on 07/30/2012 6:29:09 AM PDT by wita
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We need to tag these “Obama Blackouts” when they start occurring.


20 posted on 07/30/2012 6:33:33 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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