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You Do Not Want To Be A Single Lady Over 28 In China
Business Insider ^ | 07/30/2012 | Sarah Keenlyside, The Daily Telegraph

Posted on 07/30/2012 10:23:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

China’s 'leftover women’ are considered on the shelf if they're still single at 28.

In case you hadn’t noticed, Chinese women have become quite a force to be reckoned with in recent years. According to Forbes magazine, 11 of the 20 richest self-made women in the world are Chinese, and now 19 per cent of Chinese women in management positions are CEOs, the second highest percentage worldwide (after Thailand’s 30 per cent).

In fact, so undeniable is the rise of women in China that there is even a phrase for their sudden blossoming: yin sheng, yang shuai, which means the female (yin) is on the up, while the male (yang) is on the way down. But there’s one thing that’s holding them back – and even making them ditch their careers altogether – and that’s the fear of being single.

Unfortunately for China’s women their new-found confidence has incited a backlash from men, the government and even their own families. The popular Chinese label shengnu (leftover women), regularly perpetuated in state-controlled media and on internet message boards, refers to women who are smart, successful and moneyed but still not married by the age of 28.

That’s right: in China, if you're 30, female and single, you’re considered well and truly on the shelf.

'I always dread Chinese New Year,’ says Yang Ziyang, a 32-year-old talent agent earning in excess of one million RMB (£100,000) a year, 'because that’s when my extended family come over to the house and they all want to know why I’m not married yet. I tell them it’s because I have standards that I’m not willing to lower.’

(Excerpt) Read more at businessinsider.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; demographics; singlelady

1 posted on 07/30/2012 10:23:58 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Oh, I think there are plenty of American men that will be willing to help them out.


2 posted on 07/30/2012 10:25:26 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: SeekAndFind

Not much danger of me becoming a 28 yr-old Chinese woman.


3 posted on 07/30/2012 10:25:55 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ll take one


4 posted on 07/30/2012 10:28:42 AM PDT by Mr. K ("The spread of evil is the symptom of a vacuum [of good]")
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To: SeekAndFind

All the single ladies, all the single ladies
All the single ladies, all the single ladies
All the single ladies, all the single ladies
All the single ladies


5 posted on 07/30/2012 10:36:00 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Roger Taney? Not a bad Chief Justice. John Roberts? A really awful Chief Justice.)
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To: dfwgator

Yep, given what has happened to the culture of America, where so many act totally wild and sport a zillion tattoos.


6 posted on 07/30/2012 10:37:15 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1 John 5:4-5, 4:15, 5:13; John 3:17-18, 6:69, 11:25, 14:6, 20:31; Rom10:8-11; 1 Tim 2:5; Titus 3:4-5)
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To: ozzymandus

Turning into a 28-yr old Chinese woman is the plot of the next Adam Sandler movie.

(record-scratch-noise)


7 posted on 07/30/2012 10:37:19 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: SeekAndFind
That is the age when China's one child policy and female infanticide started taking effect. In a few years the women will have their choice of men.

The graph is from 2005, so add 7 years to all the ages. The (now) 27-31 age group is the beginning of the 10%-20% shortage of women.

8 posted on 07/30/2012 10:38:39 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: Mr. K
I’ll take one

Take two, they're small =^)

CC

9 posted on 07/30/2012 10:38:46 AM PDT by Celtic Conservative (Q: how did you find America? A: turn left at Greenland)
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To: SeekAndFind

Makes no sense with the greater number of men than woman due to the one-child policy and aborted girls by couples who want a son.


10 posted on 07/30/2012 10:39:02 AM PDT by Will88
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To: SeekAndFind

I think this is indicative of a larger issue. Society no longer supports the idea of the “breadwinning male.” The idea of the man coming home from a long day working in the mines or behind a desk has been replaced with 30+ year-old men living in mom and dad’s basement playing XBox and taking rips off the bong.

Women, in the meantime, are out in force in labor markets completely dominating the corporate offices of America and re-writing the idea of executive management. It’s no longer about cutthroat handshaking or drunken pub crawls to make a deal. These female executives are in many ways even more devious, cunning, and dastardly than their male counterparts. This, too, is a symptom of a society that has, for the last 30 years, pushed men farther down the pole of responsibility to family, society, or themselves.

My wife points out and laments how she misses working for men. She says that men are easily manipulated. Women can “pull the girl card” with a male boss, and he’ll just let them go, no questions asked. Female bosses want explanations. They’d practically keep your cycle updated in their Outlook calenders to keep you honest.

Women are power players in the global market, to be sure. Anglicanized, western powers see the female as fairer and easier to deal with, but back-office dealings show a different story. All of that aside, men are forced back on their heels in the workplace. They have to watch what they say, how they say it, how they look at a woman or comment on their dress. Then, when these power-broker women get into their late-30s and start wanting kids, they’re left picking from emasculated men with little to show for their lives except a regular, often meager paycheck by comparison and a fear of that woman.

I can say all of this, because I’ve lived it. I have college credentials, but women above me have more. Women are often promoted over men outside of male-dominated fields such as I.T. and engineering. And when I was dating in my late 20s, I was finding a lot of very eligible ladies in their 30s, but they were often power-hungry, type-A personality women who wanted to dominate versus being a partner in a co-equal relationship.

This is all cyclical, I believe. Traditional women like my wife lament having to work every day. Many of them would gladly hang up their pantsuits for a life of living at home tending to the house, the kids, the laundry, groceries, and cooking, even if that meant living a meager lifestyle compared to a two-income home. As men, we can only continue to push to better ourselves as workers and hope that the women in power get pregnant and leave a promotion recommendation behind when they realize that they really would rather be mothers than executives.


11 posted on 07/30/2012 10:39:25 AM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: KarlInOhio

But in the story, there is an excess, not a shortage. What am I missing?


12 posted on 07/30/2012 10:43:05 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: ClearCase_guy
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13 posted on 07/30/2012 10:46:12 AM PDT by Albion Wilde (Liberty means responsibility. That is why most men dread it. -- George Bernard Shaw)
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To: Larry Lucido

They’re considered unmarriageable at 28, hence the excess. Amazing, I know.


14 posted on 07/30/2012 10:46:32 AM PDT by agere_contra (Vote ABO. Don't choose the Greater Evil and then boast about how principled you are)
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To: SeekAndFind

???

Ironically there is a shortage of women to men in China. They must be importing poor young women in droves(from the Southern countries Vietnam, etc) How about North Korean women? Sounds unstable.

I met a woman from China here when she was 39 or 40 and she told me the same thing. She is(was) an old lady back there.


15 posted on 07/30/2012 10:47:16 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Larry Lucido
Maybe they just don't care about Chinese slackers living in their parents' basements playing X-Box. Also there might be an age bias in Chinese marriages where older men look for younger women and 28 is just way too old < /s>.

Other than a brief mention of the national difference in gender numbers, the author gives no more qualitative info on the number of unmarried women and unmarried men in any age group. Tell a some touching anecdotes about a few "victims" and you can make an issue appear to be the opposite of what it really is.

16 posted on 07/30/2012 10:52:45 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: SeekAndFind
This, in a country with 30 million surplus men who can't find wives. Reading into the article, it sounds like they are focusing all on the 12% of single men who own their own homes.

I wonder what % of eligible men anywhere own their own homes.

17 posted on 07/30/2012 10:53:26 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: SeekAndFind

The fertility rate in China is way below replacement to the point the population will decline. Like American Women, some Chinese women are deciding just to opt out of child bearing.

America has a ways to go before the rate is a low as China fortunately.


18 posted on 07/30/2012 10:55:21 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Present failure and impending death yield irrational action))
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To: SeekAndFind

Is there some new population shortage China I’m not aware of that pressures women to hurry up get married and breed?


19 posted on 07/30/2012 11:03:13 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Some day our schools we will teach the difference between "lose" and "loose")
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To: KarlInOhio
In a few years the women will have their choice of men.

And most likely that choice will not be a Chinese man.

20 posted on 07/30/2012 11:05:54 AM PDT by dfwgator (FUJR (not you, Jim))
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To: SeekAndFind

At 100,000 pounds per year you are going to have to convince me a little more ..........


21 posted on 07/30/2012 11:13:38 AM PDT by esquirette ("Our hearts are restless until they find rest in Thee." ~ Augustine)
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To: sickoflibs

“Ironically there is a shortage of women to men in China. They must be importing poor young women in droves(from the Southern countries Vietnam, etc) How about North Korean women? Sounds unstable.

I met a woman from China here when she was 39 or 40 and she told me the same thing. She is(was) an old lady back there.”

Makes perfect sense to me. If the women are only children - and single, they’ve had their whole life (up until 30), where they’ve been waited hand on foot. Why shouldn’t they wait?

Women will never marry down - ever.


22 posted on 07/30/2012 11:16:48 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: SeekAndFind

Given how badly their population skews male after decades of the One Child Policy, I’m afraid any single Chinese lady over 28 isn’t exactly....err.....let’s say, the pick of the litter.


23 posted on 07/30/2012 11:21:10 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: agere_contra

I mean, go figure. The one-child policy is said to have caused a generational massacre of girl babies in China, resulting in what wags call the hundred-million-strong Chinese Peoples’ Bachelor Army made up of expendable spouseless men.

But on the other hand, unmarried women in their late twenties, belonging to a race where female youthfulness often lasts well into middle age, are considered past their shelf life and can’t find husbands?

I thought Chinese women would be in a buyers’ market. Even the educated, accomplished, ambitious ones. Supply & demand and all that.

Oh, well......


24 posted on 07/30/2012 11:21:25 AM PDT by elcid1970 (Nuke Mecca now. Death to Islam means freedom for all mankind. Deus vult!)
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To: rarestia
This is all cyclical, I believe. Traditional women like my wife lament having to work every day

I don't think it will go back...women may complain about working but they love the independence and not having to rely on a man as it was in the past. They love the financial independence of being able to dump/divorce a guy and move on.

25 posted on 07/30/2012 11:27:49 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: JCBreckenridge
Women will never marry down - ever.

Pretty much..I have never personally seen a woman marry down...not to say it has never happened.

26 posted on 07/30/2012 11:29:27 AM PDT by trailhkr1
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To: agere_contra

Ellie Mae Clampet was considered an “old maid” by Granny because she was... 16? and not married.


27 posted on 07/30/2012 11:32:12 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working for)
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To: trailhkr1

Yep, and then they wonder why they are still 30 and single. Met too many women like that. They were so busy breezing by me when I was younger and now I get called up after they get dumped by the dude they were chasing.

There are some wonderful women out there - but I wouldn’t date any of my peers. They are terrible. The good ones got married and stayed married. I’ve had more lucky with older ladies.


28 posted on 07/30/2012 11:44:16 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: SeekAndFind
'I always dread Chinese New Year,’ says Yang Ziyang, a 32-year-old talent agent earning in excess of one million RMB (£100,000) a year, 'because that’s when my extended family come over to the house and they all want to know why I’m not married yet. I tell them it’s because I have standards that I’m not willing to lower.’

Translation: she will stay single. If she hasn't found somebody who 'meets her standards' by 32, what makes her think that she ever will? If she's holding out for the Chinese equivalent of Prince Charming, she needs to notice that Prince Charming is looking over the 20-somethings.

29 posted on 07/30/2012 11:45:00 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: Will88
Makes no sense with the greater number of men than woman due to the one-child policy and aborted girls by couples who want a son.

No matter how many men may want to marry them, there will always be women who think they deserve somebody better than any of them men who have any interest in her. In the past, the role of parents was to provide a "reality adjustment" to their children.

30 posted on 07/30/2012 11:48:21 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (If I can't be persuasive, I at least hope to be fun.)
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To: trailhkr1

“they love the independence and not having to rely on a man as it was in the past. They love the financial independence of being able to dump/divorce a guy and move on.”

Well, that’s not going to last. We can keep kicking the can down the road - but with the market the way it is now - all the money flowing into these particular jobs is going to dry up.

The women are doing better - in government jobs and positions that are all perched on the same pyramid of producers. With the present job climate screwing over the young men, that just narrows the producers further and further, which leads to increased borrowing to try to pay for everything.


31 posted on 07/30/2012 11:51:41 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: rarestia

That’s one very well-written post, rarestia.


32 posted on 07/30/2012 11:58:38 AM PDT by arasina (So there.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Chinese Cougars will rule a nation...


33 posted on 07/30/2012 12:15:16 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (Resurrect the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC)...before there is no America!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t want to be Chinese. I don’t want to be a Woman (of any ethinticity). I sure wouldn’t mind being a little over 28 though. So the author is only a 3rd correct in his title.


34 posted on 07/30/2012 12:51:56 PM PDT by Durus (You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality. Ayn Rand)
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To: rarestia

ping for later


35 posted on 07/30/2012 3:35:01 PM PDT by M1903A1 ("We shed all that is good and virtuous for that which is shoddy and sleazy... and call it progress")
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To: SeekAndFind

The Chinese government has taken one of the most BACKWARDS COUNTRIES in the WORLD and put them on a path to become the largest economic power in the world by 2020 (if not sooner).

They are BRILLIANT. Yet they don’t seem to have A CLUE about feminism and giving women the freedom to be bitchy and not have a husband or kids - and now they are paying the price for that mistake.


36 posted on 07/30/2012 4:20:53 PM PDT by BobL ( It's easy to be a saint when you have nothing on the line)
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