Posted on 07/31/2012 4:27:08 PM PDT by DCBryan1
SPRINGFIELD — Gov. Pat Quinn is renewing a push in Illinois to ban assault weapons in the wake of the killings at a Colorado theater that left 12 dead and dozens more wounded.
The Democratic governor also revealed plans today to propose a ban on high-capacity ammunition magazines in Illinois.
He said in a letter to all state lawmakers that he supports the U.S. Constitution's 2nd Amendment right to bear arms, but the "proliferation of military-style assault weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines undermines public safety and the right of personal security of every citizen."
The proposal comes in the form of an amendatory veto of a bill that he is sending back to lawmakers to consider whether to support or reject. Even in the wake of the Colorado shootings, Quinn will find himself with a tough sell in a legislature that is so deeply divided over guns that no major pro-gun or anti-gun legislation has moved forward for years.
In recent years, Chicago Democrats have turned out in favor of gun control......
(Excerpt) Read more at chicagotribune.com ...
If the jackass is still alive after a year, perhaps the state legislature could fund a study.
They were citizens that killed the friggin' king's troops genius.
You’re a complete idiot.
.22 caliber rifles will be banned again?
zot
Gov. Pat Queen is a PUSSY.
Hey Pat. Molon Labe MF.
If I am caught in possession of handgun in Illinois I will be arrested and put in jail, even though I am in possession of a carry permit from my state and have never done harm to anyone with my firearms.
Chicago is now recognized as the most deadly “international” city. Gang bangers are shooting each other by the (sometimes) dozen per day with the same guns I would be arrested for.
Somehow politicians walk right past the obvious every time in their attempts to make more and more of us criminals.
Want to help educate this fool before he zots himself?
Actually, modern firearms are safer for gunshot victims today than they were 200 years ago, because of the relative states of medical care then and now. 200 years ago, almost any slight torso gunshot wound led to an agonizing death through infection. Any wound to a limb led to an immediate amputation, and most of the time after that, it still led to an agonizing death through infection.
The “assault weapon” of 200 years ago was the blunderbuss, which could launch 30 pieces of lead or rusty iron at a crowd of victims with one press of a trigger. Yet “blunderbuss attacks” on innocents were unheard of.
Effective long guns have existed for 500 years. Multi-shot pistols and rifles for 150. Semi-auto rifles and pistols for 80 years. Yet it was nearly unheard of for anybody to go berserk and fire into a crowd of innocents.
So what changed? The culture.
Until about 30 years ago, there were no movies or TV shows with attractive, charismatic but evil “anti-heroes” for potential psychos to use as role models. James Holmes wanted to be “The Joker,” an evil yet cool, attractive and charismatic villain. If you want to do something about rampaging psychos, look at the mass popular culture, which has changed radically for the worse in just a few decades.
Don’t look at guns, which have been around for 500 years, and in modern self-loading versions for 80 years.
And please don’t cite the false “fact” that guns are more dangerous today, for they are NOT. They are much, much safer, due to medical care today. Soldiers, cops and criminals are shot through the torso every day, and survive. This NEVER happened in the past, when nearly every gun shot resulted in an agonized death or at least an amputation. Saying that guns are more dangerous today is pure foolishness.
“our forefathers wouldn’t dream being available now falling into the hands of citizenry “
You’re following the extreme left-wing tripe. Our founding fathers had cannons, warships with dozens of cannons, explosives, hand grenades, etc. They had the best military weapons made and were far more effective than our little rifles today. In fact, we borrowed a few of those warships during the war from private persons. When they said the people should have the weapons and the government should borrow them in time of need, they meant it.
Not to mention, most of the “modern” rifle cartridges are over 100 years old now.
The 30-06 was developed in 1906.
The 30-30 in 1895.
The British 303 in 1888.
" I DO believe in our 2nd amendment rights, the right to self defense, and the right to bear arms to overcome tyranny...but"
No sooner than Jimbob mentions it, then someone posts it: the appearance of the current Leftist talking point. While you're smacking your lips and savoring the taste of the Kool-aid, pay attention...
The Left does not want "assault weapons" banned, they want ALL weapons banned. They want the citizenry disarmed, which is what the 2AM was designed to prevent. This is what Fast & Furious was all about: the government arming criminals with weapons to gin up hysteria and support for a universal weapons ban. Haven't you been paying attention since your sign-up date??
Tell me again, how criminals will comply with a weapons ban - out of their sense of patriotism? That's what criminals do; they break the laws of society and the nation. When the Trayvons and Tawannas come boiling out of the ghettos like fire ants, better armed than the police, will you appeal to their sense of community to lay down their arms and sing kumbaya?
Now, let's turn the clock back 236 years. The principal weapon of the British military at the time was Brown Bess, a .75 caliber monster that was still in service during the US Civil War; considerably larger and more powerful than modern arms. With modern ammunition like the .22, 5.56mm, and even the 9mm, a single hit is survivable with medical care. When Brown Bess hit you, you died - or you wished you had.
This musket was also in the hands of the citizenry who were part of the unorganized militia, which still exists today: all able-bodied males between the ages of 17 and 45(Title 10 USC Sec 311), and all military vets up to age 65 (Title 32 USC Sec. 313). The unorganized militia must maintain its own arms and arsenal, and that is partly what the 2AM is all about - the right of the people to keep arms.
And if one wants to argue contemporary law, let's go to D.C. v. Heller where the SCOTUS ruled that banning an entire class of weapons is unconstitutional. The Left wants a ban on an entire class of weapons, and demands that so many weapons be included in the banned class that ANY weapon used for defense is illegal.
Now please, not for our sakes, but for your own, reconsider your position. You are falling into the Leftist mindtrap of agenda couched as "reasonable" requests. I do not apologize for the length of this post; it's meant to give you better ammunition and insight. Take it, and go forth.
I’m confused. I thought all firearms ownership is banned in IL.
I appreciate your in depth response and that of others and thank you for taking the time, and I just laugh off those piling on. We have a First Amendment, too, which promises free speech, mine, and that of everyone else (unfortunately). Maybe I’m apprehensive coz’ I only have a .22 pea shooter and know if things do go bad I’ll be outgunned, most certainly by all the respondents to my comments. More fearful of my fellow citizens armed to the teeth with bazookas, than most other threats on the horizon. Puleeze allow me my freedom of speech when I differ from the group think.
You certainly have freedom of speech, but the part of your post about gun control was pure group think.
Which has to do with the gov't restricting your speech, not private entities like this site.
More fearful of my fellow citizens armed to the teeth with bazookas, than most other threats on the horizon.
Lots of that going on, another lefty tactic.
when I differ from the group think.
You don't differ from group think, you use the talking points of the left. zot.
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