Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Pakistani Owner of Swanky Santa Monica Hotel: "Get the [expletive] Jews out of my Pool"
JewishPress ^ | July 31, 2012

Posted on 08/01/2012 9:00:36 AM PDT by Milagros

Pakistani Owner of Swanky Santa Monica Hotel: "Get the [expletive] Jews out of my Pool" By: Lori Lowenthal Marcus Published: July 30th, 2012 Latest update: July 31st, 2012

An upscale hotel on a Santa Monica, California, beach is an odd place to be singled out from a crowd and removed because you are Jewish, but that's what happened to 18 young professionals who are telling their story to a jury in a discrimination trial taking place in Santa Monica Superior Court this week.

Ari Ryan is the grandson of a Ukranian Jew who lost most of his family in the Holocaust and narrowly escaped death at the hands of the Nazis. Ryan's grandfather moved to Israel in 1942 and served as a captain in the Israel Defense Forces.

Seventy years later Ryan says he got a small taste of what his grandfather lived through, but rather than in the forests of the Ukraine, it took place at an upscale hotel in Santa Monica. Ryan and more than a dozen others have brought a lawsuit alleging anti-Semitic discrimination against them by a multi-millionaire Muslim American hotel owner.

Two years ago Ryan and other twenty- and thirty-something Jews planned to raise money to send children of fallen IDF soldiers to camp with a charity event at the Hotel Shangri-La in Santa Monica, California.

On the morning of July 11, 2010, Ryan and others arrived at the hotel and began setting up Friends of the IDF banners, literature and piles of shirts for the event guests.

But the event was aborted after, according to one employee's sworn testimony, the hotel's owner told staff members, "Get the [expletive deleted] Jews out of my pool." Then the hotel security and other employees began removing the materials and ordering the guests to leave.

Ryan said, "Anyone wearing a blue wristband," which identified them as being with the Friends of the IDF, "was asked to get out of the swimming pool and the hot tub." In fact, no one who was identifiable as Jewish was so much as "allowed to dip their feet in the water."

Tehmina (Tamie) Adaya, a Pakistani-American Muslim, is the owner of the Shangri-La. Her father, Ahmad Adaya, was a founding partner of the California real estate company IDS Real Estate Group. He also was a founder and benefactor of the New Horizon School for Muslim religious education in Southern California.

The father bought the Shangri-La Hotel in the 1980‘s and the daughter took it over in 2004, investing $30 million to renovate the property into a design award-winning opulent destination. In addition to the hotel, Adaya runs an upscale artist collective called the Crown Jewels which she blogs about at her site "Culture Shock to Culture Architect."

In the cross-complaint she initially filed, Adaya claimed Ryan and his friends were trespassing on the Shangri-La property and became unruly.

"Not so," said James Turken, managing partner of the California office of the DC-based law firm Dickstein, Shapiro, attorney for the plaintiffs. He explained that Adaya withdrew her complaint after he interviewed her, under oath, and she was unable to substantiate any of the allegations she had made.

Turken told The Jewish Press that witnesses will testify that, in addition to cursing the Jews and yelling at her staff to remove them from the pool, Adaya was heard saying, "my family will disown me," and that her "investors will be furious," if the plaintiffs remained on site.

The defense claims there was no discrimination and that, instead, the promoters of the event had failed to properly schedule the event with the hotel, and therefore they were trespassing.

According to Turken, however, all the necessary arrangements had been made in advance, as evidenced by the initial assistance provided by the Shangri-La employees, which included putting up a rope and stanchions and a check-in table. What's more, he said, the day before the event "the head of hotel security gave a briefing to the staff to prepare them for the crowd of 150 that were expected to attend."

The removal from the pool of Jews who were wearing Jewish-identified wristbands evokes a similar selection process of seventy years ago. Ryan, recalling his grandfather's legacy, said "I felt the weight of standing up to what he had to live through."

The plaintiffs are seeking $ 1 million from Adaya and the Shangri-La Hotel for emotional distress, attorneys' fees and other statutory damages. http://www.jewishpress.com/news/pakistani-owner-of-swanky-santa-monica-hotel-get-the-expletive-jews-out-of-my-pool/2012/07/30/


TOPICS: Extended News; Israel; News/Current Events; US: California; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: california; islamicracism; islamofascism; islamonazis; pakistan; pakitrash; santamonica; tamieadaya; tehminaadaya; waronterror

1 posted on 08/01/2012 9:00:48 AM PDT by Milagros
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Milagros

Oh yeah! I’ll leave your pool! Oops. My pet pig Porky doesn’t want to leave though!


2 posted on 08/01/2012 9:03:24 AM PDT by albie
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

$1 million? They are going cheap.

I figured by the time they were done there’d be a marquee sign out front: “Star of David Hotel-Under New Management”


3 posted on 08/01/2012 9:06:01 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

If the “jews” were members of the LGBT, then CNN and MSNBC would have 24/7 coverage of this.


4 posted on 08/01/2012 9:07:22 AM PDT by lormand (A Government who robs Peter to pay Paul, will always have the support of Paul)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: albie
My pet pig Porky doesn’t want to leave though!

Observant Jews would be no more likely to befriend a pig than Muslims.
5 posted on 08/01/2012 9:07:22 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

Thsi guy sounds like the Paki equivalent of Lester Maddox.


6 posted on 08/01/2012 9:08:43 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

Send this miserable POS back to his miserable POS country!
(and all who come here with similar hostile attitudes, they do NOT belong in America and we haven’t even begin to experience the problems they are bringing to us here!)


7 posted on 08/01/2012 9:09:05 AM PDT by faithhopecharity
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

Did Ari just show up with all this paraphenalia or did he rent out the pool area for the event?

The piece makes it sound as those these folks showed up out of nowhere, and then Mr. Paki went wild.

“Jews out of the pool.” Nice. Real nice.


8 posted on 08/01/2012 9:09:54 AM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: albie

Strips of bacon

rolled and toothpicked

Slingshot

Over the fence

and into the pool


9 posted on 08/01/2012 9:10:32 AM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Milagros
Are there any PORK Barbecue restaurants in the area?

10 posted on 08/01/2012 9:12:59 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (WA DC E$tabli$hment; DNC/RNC/Unionists...Brazilian saying: "$@me Old $hit; different flie$". :^)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

Sharia pool rules in effect.


11 posted on 08/01/2012 9:15:42 AM PDT by Right Wing Assault (Dick Obama is more inexperienced now than he was before he was elected.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

I didn’t know Hillary owned a hotel.


12 posted on 08/01/2012 9:17:34 AM PDT by StAnDeliver (=)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Milagros
Some of Barack Obama’s attacks on Wall Street, bankers, physicians and the “one percenters” are thinly disguised antisemitic screeds right out of Joseph Goebbels’ era. Some of the most influential figures in Obama’s life, Jeremiah Wright for one, have been Jew haters. And his treatment of the Israel and its prime minister make him the least trusted U.S. president in Israel since Jimmy Carter. All these signals serve to embolden the worldwide enemies of the Jews.
13 posted on 08/01/2012 9:21:29 AM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana
A observant Jew will not eat pork, (or shrimp or rabbit or dogs or eel.. etc.) but they don't have the freak out over pigs that Muslims have.

In fact it is lawful for a Jew to have a pet pig just as it is lawful for a Jew to have a pet dog. It isn't usual but then pigs as pets are not common among non-Jews either

14 posted on 08/01/2012 9:23:47 AM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Fate plays chess and you don't find out until too late that he's been using two queens all along)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana; Milagros

This is not going to be a popular viewpoint, but the Bill of Rights states that we shall have freedom of association. No matter how distasteful it is to most folks, a private business should not be forced to hire anyone or serve any person it chooses not to hire or serve.

The great free market economists agree on this one. Discrimination always comes at a cost, and most businesses would do business with anyone whose money is green. It is government that destroys equality of opportunity. It was the Nazi government that forced people to stop engaging in commerce with Jews, much as our government is trying to stop people doing business with Chick Fil A.

If this hateful Muslim chooses to discriminate against Jews, then the market will take care of that. His hotel will suffer for it. Allowing government to force association when it comes to private enterprises is a slippery slope.


15 posted on 08/01/2012 9:37:10 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: RexBeach
The piece makes it sound as those these folks showed up out of nowhere, and then Mr. Paki went wild.

Islamist folk frequently shoot their mouths off before engaging their (limited) brains. It appears to be a cultural short-coming. Yet, under examination "under oath" they tend to buckle and withdraw their charges. For example, from the article:

According to Turken, however, all the necessary arrangements had been made in advance, as evidenced by the initial assistance provided by the Shangri-La employees, which included putting up a rope and stanchions and a check-in table. What's more, he said, the day before the event "the head of hotel security gave a briefing to the staff to prepare them for the crowd of 150 that were expected to attend."

16 posted on 08/01/2012 9:42:06 AM PDT by Hodar (A man can fail many times, but he isn't a failure until he begins to blame somebody else.- Burroughs)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX

Let’s test your theory. Put a “NO COLOREDS” sign in the window of your business and tell us how it turns out.


17 posted on 08/01/2012 9:48:51 AM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: beelzepug
Put a “NO COLOREDS” sign in the window of your business and tell us how it turns out.

The lead story in every MSM network for the entire week would be "Racism in America -- Christians, conservatives and Romney voters are still intolerant."

18 posted on 08/01/2012 9:53:13 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

I don’t see why they are concerned, they seem to have no problem supporting Barack and Hillary. If they want to keep supporting people who will destroy them, they might as well get used to it.


19 posted on 08/01/2012 9:53:30 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: beelzepug

Well, exactly. If someone wants to do that, it should be their right. I’m not saying it is moral or ethical, but in a free country, it should not be illegal.

Do you know what would happen to that business? First, it would not have any blacks as customers, or probably even as suppliers, and it would offend most people of any race. It would probably go out of business. It was the Jim Crow laws in the South that hurt blacks. Government forced blacks to sit at the back of the bus. If businesses had been left to make their own decisions, race discrimination would have ended much sooner. Free commerce tears down barriers.


20 posted on 08/01/2012 9:57:25 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

Comment #21 Removed by Moderator

To: lormand

‘If the “jews” were members of the LGBT, then CNN and MSNBC would have 24/7 coverage of this.’

My thoughts exactly...


22 posted on 08/01/2012 9:59:41 AM PDT by Dudoight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX

They may not be able to use discrimination to sue, but the inconvenience, and cost of any loss or damage to the items they brought with them. The fact that they did not have an opportunity to relocate at such a short notice.

if the hotel has signs saying no Jews allowed, it never would have happened. They need to post these signs....and see what that does for their business.


23 posted on 08/01/2012 10:03:26 AM PDT by Dudoight
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Milagros

This is the first I’ve heard of this story, but if it had been a Christian owner expelling gays or Muslims from the premises, it would be front-page news.


24 posted on 08/01/2012 10:28:26 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Farmer Dean

You obviously didn’t know Lester Maddox.


25 posted on 08/01/2012 10:28:53 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Dudoight

“‘If the “jews” were members of the LGBT, then CNN and MSNBC would have 24/7 coverage of this.’”

But only if the owner was a Christian.


26 posted on 08/01/2012 10:30:29 AM PDT by Steve_Seattle
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Milagros
Get the [expletive] Muslims out of my Country!
27 posted on 08/01/2012 10:35:01 AM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX
Government forced blacks to sit at the back of the bus. If businesses had been left to make their own decisions, race discrimination would have ended much sooner. Free commerce tears down barriers.

In the south I knew in the 50s and 60s discriminatory laws were strongly supported by the general population. White businesses observed those laws because they would have lost white customers if they didn't, even where no such laws existed, there were signs posted in restaurants and other businesses telling black people to go to the rear for service, black and white water fountains. Public swimming pools where no blacks were allowed. I lived there and witnessed these things.

28 posted on 08/01/2012 11:03:38 AM PDT by Graybeard58 (Free people, when presented only with evil choices, create other choices.(EternalVigilance))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Graybeard58

Yes, I witnessed them, too, but things were already starting to change when government stepped in. Government had every right and duty to enforce equality before the law in public facilities and in voting, but no right to force private businesses to do anything. If we do not have freedom of association, then we have tyranny.

Check out what Thomas Sowell and Walter Williams have to say on the subject of race discrimination.


29 posted on 08/01/2012 11:09:54 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 28 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX

I agree. But that cannot happen today because laws and court decisions have disallowed letting the market decide and now you will be punished both criminally and civilly for posting such a sign. Either way you will find yourself out of business but today it will cost you a whole lot more.


30 posted on 08/01/2012 12:27:06 PM PDT by beelzepug ("Blind obedience to arbitrary rules is a sign of mental illness")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Hodar

Thanks! :)


31 posted on 08/01/2012 12:27:22 PM PDT by RexBeach (Mr. Obama Can't Count.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 16 | View Replies]

To: All
We better realize that the most intolerant [racist] force in the world today stems from (political) ISLAM.

No matter if its Arab "spring,"* or "moderate allies," in Asia that (ISI's linked) jihadists cal to kill WHITE peeople, especially British and Americansa href="http://web.archive.org/web/20081201135214/http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1090546/No-regrets-Captured-terrorists-account-Mumbai-massacre-reveals-plan-kill-5-000.html" target=blank>*... Or whether its Nation of Islam's** linked Beltway Snipers," supporting 911* Jihadi attack, targeting Whites*... or NBPP Calling to 'kill baby cracka..'*

32 posted on 08/01/2012 1:03:56 PM PDT by Milagros (Y)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: dennisw; Cachelot; Nix 2; veronica; Catspaw; knighthawk; Alouette; Optimist; weikel; Lent; GregB; ..
Middle East and terrorism, occasional political and Jewish issues Ping List. High Volume

If you’d like to be on or off, please FR mail me.

..................

33 posted on 08/01/2012 4:42:02 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: Dr. Sivana
Observant Jews would be no more likely to befriend a pig than Muslims.

Nonsense, they just don't eat them.

34 posted on 08/01/2012 4:46:13 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: RexBeach

Did you even read the story?

It was a pre-arranged rental.


35 posted on 08/01/2012 4:52:39 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX

I believe the 14th Amendment has been used to supersede the freedom of association clause.


36 posted on 08/01/2012 4:55:51 PM PDT by Bratch
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX
This isn't government, it's a civil action. Are you suggesting that the Jews who reserved their rooms and then were expelled have no recourse in the courts? Though I question your broad statement about free market economists, I would suggest this is precisely the cost those economists might be talking about in the case of a contractural breach.

Not to suggest that if he threw out blacks, I'd oppose prosecution, but that's not the case. This is a civil dispute, apparently nothing about throwing Jews out of the hotel violates civil rights legislation.

BTW, if this were a private business, they could bar Jews and anyone else. When you open your doors to the general public, you've lost that defence of privacy.

37 posted on 08/01/2012 5:01:00 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: RexBeach

The article indicates employees assisted in set up for the event, so it wasn’t a complete surprise.


38 posted on 08/01/2012 5:02:32 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: Harmless Teddy Bear; SJackson
From "Ask the Rabbi:"

http://www.chabad.org/library/article_cdo/aid/976496/jewish/Can-a-Jew-raise-swine.htm

Additionally, we find that the Torah has a particular aversion for swine. [ . . . ]

To understand the unique abhorrence of the swine is to understand why our nemesis Esau, the Edomites, is compared to a swine, the verse in Psalms6 referring to him as "the wild boar of the forest."

[ . . .] What really irks the Torah is not so much the fact that the swine isn't kosher, after all, there are many non-kosher animals; it is the fact that it symbolizes deception and hypocrisy that earned it its unique infamy.

In light of the above, while swine might make for wonderful and intelligent pets, they are just not a Jewish kind of pet.


And of course, as on so many topics of this sort, observant Jews are varying degrees of orthodoxy may vary in their approach (just as observant Jews may have different opinions regarding the use of kosher soap.). I still maintain that it is exceptionally unlikely for a Jew to befriend a pig, and he would be most displeased to have one in his pool.
39 posted on 08/01/2012 5:59:07 PM PDT by Dr. Sivana ("I love to hear you talk talk talk, but I hate what I hear you say."-Del Shannon)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 14 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

Since they were in the pool, it is likely many of them already had checked into rooms at the hotel, therefore there is also a breach of contract.

Imagine the uproar if a charity event had been held for black orphans of Vets KIA instead of Jewish orphans of Vets KIA.

I guess Santa Monica just hates orphans or else they promote hate crimes based upon religion and parentage. Why hasn’t the state and the city jerked their business license to operate as a hotel? They are violating city permitting regulations.


40 posted on 08/02/2012 12:46:30 AM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 38 | View Replies]

To: SJackson

You are correct that breach of contract is a different matter. I was speaking of government enforced laws on discrimination.

The part about a private business losing rights by opening its doors to the public, however, is incorrect. It is still a private business, and it ought to be able to accept or reject any customer for any reason, even if that reason is distasteful to the rest of us. I guess the only reason business can use now is if the person isn’t wearing shoes or a shirt. They do not have to let anyone and everyone in their place of business, though, and can ask people to leave the premises. That is not against the law unless the person claims it was a case of racial discrimination. Next, will be sexual orientation, and we will see where that leads.

I understand why people are upset that anyone would treat people this way, but do you not see that the government is using this to limit freedom? If you want to rent a room in your house, you may not have a choice to refuse anyone if the government says that you are discriminating against him in some way. That is government running roughshod over your rights.

Again, check out what Walter Williams and Thomas Sowell have to say on the subject.


41 posted on 08/02/2012 9:02:55 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 37 | View Replies]

To: Bratch

Perhaps the 14th Amendment has been used to supersede the freedom of association clause, but as I understand it, the 14th Amendment applies only to discrimination by government. It guarantees equal protection under the law, which is as it should be. It does not say anything about individuals, clubs, or private business. Well, I don’t think it does anyway. I’m no legal scholar. :-)


42 posted on 08/02/2012 9:06:43 AM PDT by Pining_4_TX ( The state is the great fiction by which everybody seeks to live at the expense of everybody else. ~)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 36 | View Replies]

To: Pining_4_TX

I’ve some sympathy for your position, however there is a distinction between a private business, as in privately owned, which you’re referring to, and a business, possibly privately owned which offers it’s services to the public. If you open a bar, privately owned, and the law says you can’t serve anyone under 21, you can’t. If you can’t serve an inebriant, you can’t. And there are similar laws that require you to serve people without discrimination based on race, gender, religion etc. IMO, kind of an academic issue, I’m not sure it’s something that needs to be changed. The option of a private venue is there, what’s missing is the demand


43 posted on 08/02/2012 4:36:00 PM PDT by SJackson (I used to eat a lot of natural foods until I learned that most people people die of natural causes)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 41 | View Replies]

To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

So, what job has the Pakistani hotel owner been offered in the Obama campaign machine?

Thanks Milagros.


44 posted on 08/02/2012 8:38:14 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Milagros
What about Hindus? Would the Paki owner allow Hindus into the pool? No?
45 posted on 08/03/2012 6:20:47 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Farmer Dean
Lester Maddox has nothing on an average Paki.
46 posted on 08/03/2012 6:24:06 AM PDT by ravager
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Milagros; mickie
Before his death, the multi-millionaire father of the hotel's present owner endowed the "New Horizons School" in Pasadena where young students are subtly indoctrinated at an early age in the importance of establishing an American caliphate and replacing the Constitution with Sharia Law.

There's a lot going on under the radar in this country in regards to Islam.

Leni

47 posted on 08/03/2012 7:09:03 AM PDT by MinuteGal
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson