Posted on 08/03/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV
Yeah, that's a funny thing that. I dated this NYC lib doctor (she has seen the light, trust me) and while taking classes on paper work and insurance, she informed me that as an Indian, my healthcare is covered under same Fed title that covers the criminally insane.
hmmm, says a lot. Oh and AI's are "managed" by the Department of the Interior just like fed lands and natural resources. I wonder if I can get myself some of the Obama Green loot since I'm a natural resource
“I have never seen a hardware store or a clothing store or even a fast food place. And of course there are no Walmarts or Kroger or Home Depot. For some reason any business that creates jobs and profits seem to be discouraged”
They cant buy the land their store would need to sit on. They would have to lease land, under byzantine federal and indian laws, and only then build the structure on it, which the indians keep when the lease is over. There would be requirements that most employees be indian. A sort of local EEOC. And disputes go through corrupt tribal courts first before going to federal court. No business in their right mind would locate there.
Everybody knows the alcohol & govt aid has caused most of it, no more than modern day genocide; govt wants them all to die off and go away. Who do you think will then get the land?
The Indians think it's just how the system works, White Man's govt takes care of us forever. Yet I have Indian friends who vote Republican all the time, just wish I could get the entire village to see reality. Many Indians get out of the village & reservation & welfare and do quite well; entire families are successful.
Canada does it better. Thirty years back they did the carrot & stick with some of their Indians. Got them, forced them into rehab, training, jobs, helped them buy a house outside the village or reservation away from th alcohol. Many failed 2-3 times but Canadian Govt kept recycling them and most eventually became productive upstanding citizens. We live on the border and Indians in Alaska & Canada are first cousins. Night and day difference. Canadian Indians are mostly high class, doing well, 30 years after the program started. Needless to say villages in Alaska are sad places, dying villages, going extinct; just what our govt wants; dramatic difference.
Just remember, you can't even understand their culture, perspective, problems, and solutions until you've lived around them in their world and seen it with your own eyes. Just don't hate them all, look down on them all, for their situation. Us Whites move in, surround their villages with lodges & package stores; and then wonder why they have problems? Indians keep wondering why we are so successful at displacing them when we are the way we are too.
Bingo.
Yeah, I think I knew that. See John Ford's “Cheyenne Autumn”.
I really haven't heard anything about the BIA for several years. So maybe it has been absorbed into something else.
Old joke about the BIA.
In 1875 G.A. Custer was head of the BIA and when he was reactivated in the Army, he told the staff that since his appointment was not permanent for them to not do anything until he returned. They are still waiting.
I have an indian friend. She doed NOT live on the reservation but she does own indians lands she inhertited from her mother.
We furnish huge sus of money to these tribes. It’s the tribal leaders who are keeping the books.
You got that right about the Interior dept. And royalties from mining, oil, gas, on tribal land all go into a trust fund managed by the feds.
The rest of the story is almost obvious. The US government, managing the trust fund.
People that lived without running water, electric, heat, blahblahblah, were millionaires but could not get the money. Someone started looking, the DoJ got involved, the BIA burned tons of files.
It came to a head under Billy Boy, his goons from the Dept of Interior destroyed the evidence. I'll dig up the links
Thanks in advance. I have a few acquaintances (not really friends) on a couple of the local reservations. Most will not talk about the real problems there. Just kind of in general. If you know what I mean. I am not near as knowledgeable as I would like to be.
Why? Seriously?
No butts in the kitchen sink, neither human nor animal. They make baby tubs just for that purpose.
Last year I was driving up I-90 in New York got off at Fredonia to go to Gowanda...
As I drove north along I think it was 62 I passed through miles of lovely vineyards and farms...
It was all Indian reseervation land...
Nice houses nice cars clean sober neatly dressed people...
The unPine Ridge...
I have a 21 yr old Crow Indian who is part of my packaging staff. Sweet girl and hanging out with success is starting to really rub off. She has always lived in run down trailers and collected a per-cap from the tribe. A pittance.
She looks at our home and property, sees how hard we work and enjoy life, and you can see the lights coming on in her eyes.
We tell her there’s no reason for her to not expect with hard work that she will see the same type of success or better. It’s a free country and so many of these minorities are taught that it is not.
I tell her the same thing you basically said. It’s the government that tried killing them off in the 1800’s doing the same thing now. The proof is in the pictures of how and where they live.
The Indians never believed in property rights to begin with, so maybe that kind of living suits them.
“Don’t judge the Indians like we would judge each other and by that I mean White People in general. They ain’t like us, you’ll only hate them if you do. You have to be the hated no good, dirty White Boy in Native land for a year; then you’ll start understanding it all; and you won’t hate them either, no joke.”
I’ve spent a lifetime interacting with indians. Not a single word i said judged anybody on a personal level. It was merely relaying direct observations. I don’t see them as anything other than tragic victims of a corrupt government. (tribal and federal) But the fact remains, i know quite enough indians to know that they are indeed just like us. Giving into hopelessness is tragic, but rest assured they do know what they are missing, and would love to have a better life. They just correctly know the deck is stacked against them unless they leave the res. And have lived through decades of ward status leaving them utterly devoid of a belief that they can achieve anything. This is why indians have a lot of love for that LA gangsta rap/Compton culture.
The only way to not judge their situation according to civilized standards, is to accept a racist answer. But for non racists, who know they are humans who wish to have better, the answer is to judge those who created it, while keeping a sense of kindness for the ones living it.
Hating an Indian for their poverty, is like having a soviet citizen doing what they did to survive. But is basically racist to adoringly say “they ain’t like us”. The truth is, they are like us. And again, i have a few decades of enough experience to know.
Baby butts can't be any worse than the bacteria laden dirty dishes that go into sinks.
/johnny
You can say that as much as you can for any group. Collectively, "Indian ways" are very different from others, the strange thing to most people is that they came from here and not somewhere else but still seems so foreign. The Tribes themselves are as different from each other as are their languages. What we all have in common is the Gub'mint.
I have stated on FR in that past that the thing most responsible for the destruction of the AI's is government dependency. I won't write it all out again but when a people are linked to the government for all things they become slaves and not people. The Reservation is the future for anyone and anyplace that falls prey.
Detroit. You cannot build on the Rez, own, gain or grow.
I don't believe the image of AI's portrayed for mass consumption. What I know is that the gub'mint has scr*wed us real good and has no intentions of letting have what is ours by treaty.
“It’s the tribal leaders who are keeping the books.”
Tribal leaders keep the books on the stipend the feds send the tribe, and on income from a casino of they have one. But the feds in the DOI BIA run the trust fund in a fiduciary capacity. And the Indians are not allowed to look over their shoulder to make sure the Feds are actually doing it honestly.
Yes, the same feds that gave us freddy, fannie, and the SS administration.
The reservations are demonstrations of "socialism in action": a dominating federal government coupled to a local governing apparat, the tribal government.
The one has supreme power, the other is corrupt beyond belief. The people's lives are bereft of meaning.
Already been done, sort of.
The Dawes Act of 1887 distributed Indian land to the individual Indians. The results were at best mixed. Many Indians sold their land to whites, resulting in a rapid decrease in the amount of Indian land. 138M acres in 1887, 48M acres in 1934.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dawes_Act
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