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In the shadow of Wounded Knee: Inside the life of the Oglala Sioux
DailyMail ^ | Aug 2 | James Nye

Posted on 08/03/2012 9:49:25 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV

In the shadow of Wounded Knee: Inside the life of the Oglala Sioux on the Pine Ridge reservation of South Dakota

The Oglala Sioux Tribe occupies a seemingly prime piece of South Dakota — a vast, scenic reservation that stands near a crossroads for tourists visiting Mount Rushmore, the Badlands, the historic Old West town of Deadwood and other popular sites.

But don't look for museums, hotels, restaurants or even many bathrooms here on the Pine Ridge Reservation, because the Lakota make little effort to attract visitors or tourism dollars, despite the fact that they are one of the nation's poorest tribes.

A generation after many other native American sought to harness their history for profit, the Oglala Sioux are still debating how much culture they are willing to share.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2182898/In-shadow-Wounded-Knee-Inside-Pine-Ridge-reservation-South-Dakota.html#ixzz22VDCSd60

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1 posted on 08/03/2012 9:49:32 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

The one thing the people living onthe reservation have been denied is “Basic Property Ownership Rights” Stossle covered this on one of his shows. There is a tribe in Washington State that was denied federal tribal status a long time ago and they have Flourished! Because they stuck togetehr as a people and worked their butts off. Just down the road there is a federal reservation with some of the poorest native around. If you live on a reservation you cannot legally own any land or house, so why bother improving and taking pride in it?

I think the reservations should be dissolved and the land handed back to the tribes as private property to do with whatever they please. It is downright disturbing how much control the feds have over the reservations.


2 posted on 08/03/2012 9:57:33 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

I live in the pacific northwest where tribes control a lot of the politics. They dictate environmental issues and build casinos and resorts at will, yet most of their tribal members live in squalor such as pictured about while white liberals seem to be at the top of their economic ladder as lawyers, managers, commissioners, etc..


3 posted on 08/03/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

I have been to Pine Ridge several times. Seeing the 3rd World here in America was quite a shock..


4 posted on 08/03/2012 10:00:53 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV
Kid needs to be doing some dishes while he's just sitting there in the sink.

/johnny

5 posted on 08/03/2012 10:01:00 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV
Pine Ridge reservation of South Dakota
I've received a dozen calls in the last few months from someone claiming to represent some reservation in South Dakota (could be Pine Ridge).
The caller claims that the women and children are starving and ask me to donate money. I ask - what about the men ... aren't they starving too? No reply.
I end the call by giving the caller the WH phone number with instructions to ask for the guy in charge of food stamps.
6 posted on 08/03/2012 10:03:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: GraceG

I thought Federal law didn’t apply to the reservations....

So, Which is it? It’s federal government’s fault or INDIAN law that keeps them from owning their own land and homes???

Ooops or were you puposefully trying to mislead?


7 posted on 08/03/2012 10:03:41 AM PDT by Freddd (No PA Engineers)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

That picture does not display poverty. It displays laziness. Just because one is poor, does not mean they have to be dirty...


8 posted on 08/03/2012 10:04:04 AM PDT by donozark (Not all heroes wear tights and a cape.)
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My daughter and I just took a huge trip through the west. For days we passed clean friendly little prairie towns, endless farms, etc. Then we pulled into Pine Ridge. It looked like we had arrived 5 minutes after a shootout. As we pulled in from the south there were no less than 25 bodies, laying motionless on sidewalks, and even in the street.
Not dead, but drunk. We went out to Wounded Knee and were treated to nothing but more drunks who appeared like zombies, trying to sell trinkets and give grossly incorrect versions of history. It was as though you drove into a bad neighborhood of Atlanta and had people trying to beg money for telling you incorrect stories of the civil war.

We passed back through pine ridge to head to the Black Hills. Stopped for fuel. Walking into the gas station, avoided vomit on the ground. Saw more cops in Pine ridge than in the past 5 days combined. Trash everywhere, abandoned cars and buildings, etc. US Government buildings and propaganda signs were everywhere. The place was a hell hole.

My college age daughter and i discussed how the only difference from the rest of the midwest was that we had crossed into a city that has forsaken the concept of private ownership of property, and was now a socialist enclave. The US government plans and funds this “community”. James Watt was right, “If you want to see the failure of socialism, dont go to the USSR. Go to an indian reservation.”


9 posted on 08/03/2012 10:06:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: donozark

Yep. Kid is in the sink and she is on her Blackberry. Total nonsense. The poster in the back of the “Indian way” is a nice touch too.


10 posted on 08/03/2012 10:10:30 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV (Keep calm and carry on)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV
I have been on several reservations and have noticed a couple of things. With the exception of casinos and tourist traps, there is damn near zero retail establishments on the Res. Usually a gas station and store with overpriced food and other items. Along with cheap tobacco products.
I have never seen a hardware store or a clothing store or even a fast food place. And of course there are no Walmarts or Kroger or Home Depot. For some reason any business that creates jobs and profits seem to be discouraged.
The other is the fact that the tribes are "wards of the government." That seems to be a name for, "Giving them just enough to keep them alive and with enough strings attached to keep them dependent on US. We, in the form of the BIA have taken away their pride. Sometimes, when traveling on the reservation(s) I want to pull over and just scream.
11 posted on 08/03/2012 10:11:06 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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To: Freddd

[ I thought Federal law didn’t apply to the reservations....

So, Which is it? It’s federal government’s fault or INDIAN law that keeps them from owning their own land and homes???

Ooops or were you puposefully trying to mislead? ]

I am blaming the Beureu of Indian Affairs. which has heavy ties to the federal government. Also federal policy towards reservations which is nothing more than overt socialism.


12 posted on 08/03/2012 10:12:22 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

Come on, lady - put down the ipod and clean your house and child. I do like the “Dump Daschle” sticker on the door, though.


13 posted on 08/03/2012 10:13:36 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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To: Freddd
So, Which is it?

I'm not too familiar with other tribes and the relationships but there is also the state vs fed problem. Indian land and Indians it seems are in federal trust. The rez system was at times used to protect Indian lands then to force the people to leave them. Laws preventing people from repairing their own homes was one way ensuring that an area would degrade. If they people would not give up the land, they would not see the revenue from the natural resources mined from the land.

Then there is the state. My Navajo grandparents were not allowed to vote. The states did not allow them to vote until the 50's. I do not know exactly what state they were from, the Dinetah is large. My grandfather and other family members fought in WWII for a country they loved and government that denied them the right to vote.

14 posted on 08/03/2012 10:20:07 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: dainbramaged

And bleach the heck out of the sink when the kid gets out. Or just install a new one.


15 posted on 08/03/2012 10:20:23 AM PDT by CatherineofAragon (Time for a write-in campaign...Darryl Dixon for President)
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To: GraceG
I think the reservations should be dissolved and the land handed back to the tribes as private property to do with whatever they please. It is downright disturbing how much control the feds have over the reservations.

They used to own the entire continent at one time and look what happened. Remeber them giving away manhattan for a handful of beads?

Many indians do not understand the concept of ownership of land. I believe the reason they are not given ownership rights is because they would lose their property.

16 posted on 08/03/2012 10:22:32 AM PDT by oldbrowser (As long as Obama's records are sealed, any discussion of Romney's past is off limits.)
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To: donozark
Spot-on! I see at least 4 cast iron pans, none are cheap if bought new. Two big gulp type fast-food cups, bottled water, etc.

Stripping the trim off the doorway and filling the relatively new cupboards with other stuff while leaving the dishes in a pile on the counter is not a sign of poverty, but of priorities. If people wish to live in squalor, they will.

I have been in homes well away from any reservation where the people were dirt-floor poor, but everything was spotlessly clean and and the house was neat.

17 posted on 08/03/2012 10:22:33 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: CatherineofAragon
And bleach the heck out of the sink when the kid gets out. Or just install a new one.

Why? You never bathed a kid in the kitchen sink?

/johnny

18 posted on 08/03/2012 10:24:07 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Freddd

A wide body of Federal law does apply to reservations. FBI and US Marshals are there too. The land held in collective is pretty much a tribal law, on top of federal law.
While they are called “nations” they are really more like wholly economically dependent states or US territories.

The federal govenment decided long ago that reservations were cultural collectives. This is why the tribes could not sell off their land. First, they had no desire to with no example of an ownership society. And the US Govt decided that rather than assimailation, the indians needed to stay on one parcel of land. That wouldnt work if they could sell it off.

Essentially, most reservations are essentially collectives, where the indians are wards of the state. The exceptions are found in Oklahoma and a few other places that are structured around ownership of property. It’s a little dishonest or uninformed to imply that the land ownership rules at Pine Ridge did not come from the US government.

But whatever the cause, it would take decades to undo the damage there. The dependency mindset is so ingrained, that it is probably worse than the average Russian had after 80 years of communism. Every advocate of the US govt running our lives should visit Pine Ridge.


19 posted on 08/03/2012 10:26:23 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: Alistair Stratford IV

Don’t miss the “Dump Daschle” sticker.


20 posted on 08/03/2012 10:26:36 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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