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1 posted on 08/03/2012 9:49:32 AM PDT by Alistair Stratford IV
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The one thing the people living onthe reservation have been denied is “Basic Property Ownership Rights” Stossle covered this on one of his shows. There is a tribe in Washington State that was denied federal tribal status a long time ago and they have Flourished! Because they stuck togetehr as a people and worked their butts off. Just down the road there is a federal reservation with some of the poorest native around. If you live on a reservation you cannot legally own any land or house, so why bother improving and taking pride in it?

I think the reservations should be dissolved and the land handed back to the tribes as private property to do with whatever they please. It is downright disturbing how much control the feds have over the reservations.


2 posted on 08/03/2012 9:57:33 AM PDT by GraceG
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I live in the pacific northwest where tribes control a lot of the politics. They dictate environmental issues and build casinos and resorts at will, yet most of their tribal members live in squalor such as pictured about while white liberals seem to be at the top of their economic ladder as lawyers, managers, commissioners, etc..


3 posted on 08/03/2012 10:00:36 AM PDT by Baynative (A man's admiration for absolute government is proportionate to the contempt he feels for others)
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I have been to Pine Ridge several times. Seeing the 3rd World here in America was quite a shock..


4 posted on 08/03/2012 10:00:53 AM PDT by cardinal4 (Do I really need a /s tag?)
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Kid needs to be doing some dishes while he's just sitting there in the sink.

/johnny

5 posted on 08/03/2012 10:01:00 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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Pine Ridge reservation of South Dakota
I've received a dozen calls in the last few months from someone claiming to represent some reservation in South Dakota (could be Pine Ridge).
The caller claims that the women and children are starving and ask me to donate money. I ask - what about the men ... aren't they starving too? No reply.
I end the call by giving the caller the WH phone number with instructions to ask for the guy in charge of food stamps.
6 posted on 08/03/2012 10:03:06 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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That picture does not display poverty. It displays laziness. Just because one is poor, does not mean they have to be dirty...


8 posted on 08/03/2012 10:04:04 AM PDT by donozark (Not all heroes wear tights and a cape.)
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My daughter and I just took a huge trip through the west. For days we passed clean friendly little prairie towns, endless farms, etc. Then we pulled into Pine Ridge. It looked like we had arrived 5 minutes after a shootout. As we pulled in from the south there were no less than 25 bodies, laying motionless on sidewalks, and even in the street.
Not dead, but drunk. We went out to Wounded Knee and were treated to nothing but more drunks who appeared like zombies, trying to sell trinkets and give grossly incorrect versions of history. It was as though you drove into a bad neighborhood of Atlanta and had people trying to beg money for telling you incorrect stories of the civil war.

We passed back through pine ridge to head to the Black Hills. Stopped for fuel. Walking into the gas station, avoided vomit on the ground. Saw more cops in Pine ridge than in the past 5 days combined. Trash everywhere, abandoned cars and buildings, etc. US Government buildings and propaganda signs were everywhere. The place was a hell hole.

My college age daughter and i discussed how the only difference from the rest of the midwest was that we had crossed into a city that has forsaken the concept of private ownership of property, and was now a socialist enclave. The US government plans and funds this “community”. James Watt was right, “If you want to see the failure of socialism, dont go to the USSR. Go to an indian reservation.”


9 posted on 08/03/2012 10:06:25 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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I have been on several reservations and have noticed a couple of things. With the exception of casinos and tourist traps, there is damn near zero retail establishments on the Res. Usually a gas station and store with overpriced food and other items. Along with cheap tobacco products.
I have never seen a hardware store or a clothing store or even a fast food place. And of course there are no Walmarts or Kroger or Home Depot. For some reason any business that creates jobs and profits seem to be discouraged.
The other is the fact that the tribes are "wards of the government." That seems to be a name for, "Giving them just enough to keep them alive and with enough strings attached to keep them dependent on US. We, in the form of the BIA have taken away their pride. Sometimes, when traveling on the reservation(s) I want to pull over and just scream.
11 posted on 08/03/2012 10:11:06 AM PDT by Tupelo (TeaPartier ..... but no longer a Republican)
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Come on, lady - put down the ipod and clean your house and child. I do like the “Dump Daschle” sticker on the door, though.


13 posted on 08/03/2012 10:13:36 AM PDT by dainbramaged (If you want a friend, get a dog.)
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Last year I was driving up I-90 in New York got off at Fredonia to go to Gowanda...

As I drove north along I think it was 62 I passed through miles of lovely vineyards and farms...

It was all Indian reseervation land...

Nice houses nice cars clean sober neatly dressed people...

The unPine Ridge...


32 posted on 08/03/2012 11:00:34 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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Mrs China Clippers' father worked for the BIA.

As kids they and their dad lived on the reservation for years.

The things she remembers and shares about living conditions and situations are truly saddening. Her high school class of 1976 had 50 kids in the class. 40 of them are already dead or in a hospital. She says they would hold pow-wows with a fire and everything in the middle of their living room houses. Given to them BTW by the "benevolent government". In fact, they were given EVERYTHING except what they really needed-self worth.

In general, they appear to be a broken, beaten and hopeless people.

And we (USA) created it by our indifference and our guilt.

45 posted on 08/03/2012 11:24:18 AM PDT by China Clipper ( Animals? Sure I like animals. See? There they are, right next to the potatoes!)
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