Posted on 08/04/2012 9:53:13 AM PDT by upchuck
How 1984 Orwellian, huh? =.=
Hmmm... so he was holding the cows as security until the neighbor paid for the feed the cows had eaten. Sounds reasonable enough.
If he’d taken the neighbor to small claims court instead of chasing the first responders away with rifles, this would have been resolved.
Why was the government so eager to intervene with so much muscle in a spat between what were probably two jerky neighbors who disliked each other?
And for all you who supported the Patriot Act back in the day ...THIS is the result. It isn’t about Terrorism any more than RICO is about the mob.
A quick search tells me that a cow is worth anywhere from between $2000-$5000. That's $12,000-$30,000. I have a strong hunch you wouldn't be questioning the methods if your neighbor had $30,000 that belonged to you.
After the younger adult Brossart children drew weapons on law enforcement they should all just thank whatever god they believe in that the SWAT team didn't justifiably go in guns blazing. These people are obviously not only kooks, but dangerous ones at that.
It can orbit from 5 miles away and kill you from there. You will not see it in the air.
guess they didn’t need to use it at the border, since that has already been sealed up
Terrorism is the act of committing a random act of violence, that will intimidate and terrorize the public at large.
The imprecision of this charge alone lets you know the local authorities have their heads firmly implanted.
If that range law is on the books, the officers don't have a leg to stand on.
As for using the drone, don't escalate the incident to the point you have armed resistance in the first place, and you won't have to abuse your citizens as a result.
I happen to think this guy was a bit of a yahoo, but you don't attack people for being a bit strange. I would have given the cattle back, but if this guy was operating under some sort of range law that was still in effect, he's right and they are wrong.
This guy may win on the issue of the cattle. And if he does, the officials in that police department are going to come off looking like complete idiot bastards.
Charge the guy with a crime. Give him a summons. Handle the issue in court. Those cattle weren't humans. Their return wasn't required in 24 hours. This did not have to be handled this way.
Citizens and officers were subjected to a life threatening situation, when they didn't need to be. An unmanned aircraft was also used when it didn't need to be.
These damned small police department heads that turn their jurisdiction into a somewhat of a fiefdom, contribute to an image of laws enforcement totally out of control.
Don't these idiots think at all before they escalate these situations way beyond what is called for?
Actually, it was the neighbor who didn’t keep his cattle on his own property who should have gone to court to get his cattle back. In court the issue of reimbursement of feed could be addressed at the same time.
I suppose you could say the guy wanting reimbursement should have returned the cattle and gone to court. “Possession is nine-tenths of the law.” If you give up your cards, you don’t win the pot.
It would be interesting to know just how much the person arrested wanted for feeding those cattle. It may have been an embarrassingly small amount.
That’s not a real plane. Or that’s a very old photo. There’s no such thing as border protection under Obama. /s
Yeah, I know, where is the fun in that, right?
If the cows were on his property due to the lack of control on the part of the actual owner, the actual owner needs to go through the process of getting them back.
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I was just thinking “this is EXACTLY how Andy Griffith would have handled it”.
I mean, Barney Fife.
So there you have it. There are two types of sheriffs, and this place has the wrong kind.
And these kinds of articles are news because they’re about the wrong kind doing the job wrongly.
And there are two types of landwoners, and this place had two of the same wrong kind (Barney Fifes).
Wouldn’t you OFFER payment for grass consumed x2 right after your apology upon first seeing the owner open his front door? Probably a history of incompetence.
Well, not yet, anyway.
i’m not claiming its fulfilled like this, but also people are too ready to assume Revelation Chapter 13 requires star wars type futuristic technology ultimately to fulfill for such passages as this:
“. . he maketh fire come down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men”
or
“who is able to make war with him”
when in fact this could be flying over our houses this very minute, and how could any of us defend against it,
It sounds to me that when the cows wandered onto this man’s farm, it became a civil matter, not a criminal one. The police should have told the owner of the cows to get a lawyer, and filed the report. The farmer should have said “sue me, unless you want to agree to a reasonable settlement “. The police escalated this unnecessarily,unless there are some other facts not being stated. How did this go from being about cows to illegal weapons? Why didn’t the farmer return the cows immediately? Need more data.
So what is the difference between a drone and a helicopter? If we allow a helicopter to fly over a citizen’s property and report back the information that they see .... how is a drone any different?
The fight over the 4th was lost a long time ago when citizens allowed LEO to conduct surveillance of their property without a warrant.
This is not about the Patriot Act. All that act did was take the SAME laws that have been used to fight organized crime for over 40 years, and allowed them to be used on terrorists. There are safe guards, and congressional monitoring.
The Raptor is truly death from the sky. I have watched men fly the Predator when it was first used over Serbia. The people of the screen never saw it watching. I have watched the armed Predator and later the Raptor kill people. I never saw one person get away from a hell fire missile.
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