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Mars rover Curiosity nears make-or-break landing attempt
reuters.com ^ | Aug 5, 2012 | steve gorman

Posted on 08/05/2012 3:07:52 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

PASADENA, Calif., Aug 5 (Reuters) - The Mars rover Curiosity, on a quest for signs the Red Planet once hosted the building blocks of life, streaked into the home stretch of its eight-month voyage on Sunday nearing a make-or-break landing attempt NASA calls its most challenging ever.

Curiosity, the first full-fledged mobile science laboratory ever sent to a distant world, was scheduled to touch down inside a vast, ancient impact crater on Sunday at 10:31 p.m. Pacific time (1:31 a.m. EDT on Monday/0531 GMT on Monday).

Mission control engineers at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory near Los Angeles acknowledge that delivering the one-ton, six-wheeled, nuclear-powered vehicle in one piece is a highly risky proposition, with zero margin for error.

(Excerpt) Read more at reuters.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: curiosity; mars; marsrover; nasa; space
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Looking at the animation of the perfect landing, there's way too many stages that can go wrong. The tether stage is vulnerable to a number of potential snags and twists. Why couldn't they have used traditionally proven landing methods, given so much has been invested in building the rover?

I hope it works out for them ....but I have a doubt.

21 posted on 08/05/2012 6:28:29 AM PDT by Musketeer
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To: bigtoona

Good, not as bad as I first thought. Should make for some good video. I want this to work since the landing is straight out of a science fiction novel. Heck with the silly mission of finding life, I want the technology to be sound so we can invade and rule planets like Pandora in the near future.


22 posted on 08/05/2012 6:29:20 AM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: Musketeer

The vehicle is the size of a car and has more delicate instruments then any before it. Can not use the any of the traditional methods since there is no water to splash down or landing runways. As complicated as the landing sounds and I might be eating my words, if this works this will be the way to land large complicated instruments. The traditional way of bouncing a lander that is surrounded by balloons off the surface seems more crazy if you ask me.


23 posted on 08/05/2012 6:37:27 AM PDT by BushCountry (I hope the Mayans are wrong!)
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To: eak3

Launch windows are chosen for technical reasons, not to satisfy the entertainment addicted American public.

That said, NASA is an extreme Affirmative Action example, no longer the “best and brightest”. JPL succeeds, because the entire center is contracted out and there are very few “civil” servants located there. The rest of the agency is treading water with little mission except making Muslims feel good about their bloody history.


24 posted on 08/05/2012 7:05:59 AM PDT by wrencher
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To: theDentist

“I keep thinking: What if the upper part lands atop the rover?”

Watch the “7 Seconds of Terror” Video at the link Equaviator posted. The upper part rockets away after lowering the rover. Pretty fascinating. Hope it works.

http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/participate/


25 posted on 08/05/2012 7:42:50 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: Ronald_Magnus

7 MINUTES I should have said


26 posted on 08/05/2012 7:44:00 AM PDT by Ronald_Magnus
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To: theDentist

Ouch. Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo... ;^)


27 posted on 08/05/2012 8:29:25 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote Obama he's unqualified on so many subjects, citizenship, history, economics, racism, allies...)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I have an XBox, and NASA came out with a free game for the XBox called “Mars Rover Landing”. It uses the Kinect system to control the Curiosity through body movements. The first stage is keeping the Curiosity on the landing track during re-entry. Second, a three-stage pyro activation that blows out the parachute and seperates the heat sheild, then controlling the rockets to lower the rover to the ground.

I haven’t made it past the pyro stage. I hope that doesn’t bode ill for tonight.


28 posted on 08/05/2012 8:53:13 AM PDT by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Great tune for the thread!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBwy5y_tdQk


29 posted on 08/05/2012 12:21:09 PM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: equaviator

glad you made your post; you beat me to it


30 posted on 08/05/2012 1:18:24 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: BushCountry

Gee, if only YOU had been on the engineering teams!!!

Or, can we otherwise assume that many cost and engineering factors resulted in whatever “might have been” not being selected for “what MUST be”.


31 posted on 08/05/2012 1:22:17 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: djf

from post # 8 of this thread:

Watch live online> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/participate/


32 posted on 08/05/2012 1:25:00 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: theDentist

Your question explains why the JPL engineers for NASA refer to the descent as “7 minutes of terror” - the multiple phases of the descent requiring different engineering solutions for each stage, the total (short) time the descent will take and the long time (14 minutes) between a communication sent from the rover and its lander before that communication is received on earth, means whatever the scientists are being told happened, happened 14 minutes ago and something else - the next stage - is “happening now”, and it will be 14 more minutes before they will know about it. They’ll be “sweating bullets” until the rover is completely landed and safely so.

In case you missed post number 8 on this thread:

Watch live online> http://mars.jpl.nasa.gov/msl/participate/


33 posted on 08/05/2012 1:37:29 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

I have NEVER been successful watching any of NASA’s “live threads”

I don’t know if it’s too much Java crap or whatever... I have DSL, and bandwidth is not a problem, just that the feeds do not work for me.


34 posted on 08/05/2012 1:54:42 PM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: djf

this one will entertain you - made me laugh

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7k_LsBWcCc


35 posted on 08/05/2012 2:00:40 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Wuli

Lol!

Music sounds like cartoons from the 60’s!

Let’s hope that is what happens - if any of those thrusters on the elevator thingie fail, it’s a 2 billion dollar pile of junk.


36 posted on 08/05/2012 2:09:16 PM PDT by djf (The barbarian hordes will ALWAYS outnumber the clean-shaven. And they vote.)
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To: djf

I read where 96 things have to happen for it to
land correctly. Seems to me they might have had
some cameras facing up ward to watch the chute
deploy, watch the rover deploy, separate to
at least have an idea of what if any went wrong.

I’ll be watching tonight.
Good luck NASA.


37 posted on 08/05/2012 2:17:07 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: djf

if you notice real closely on whatever video player the you tube selection is using, there are actually two tracks of “progress” being shown - one is how much of the video has been “shown”, and ahead of it is another track (different shade or different color on the “progress” track) showing how much of the video has been “loaded” either into ram or virtual memory as well.

usually “pausing” the “playing” does not stop the “loading”, until either it is complete or, in some cases, has “loaded” into all the memory that has been made available to it;

in these cases, performance can sometimes be improved by restarting the playing of the video, and briefly afterward pausing it, letting the loading get further and further ahead of the playing, and then hit the > button again. It will continue the play from the point at which it was stopped, but more of the video will be in memory ahead of the playing process, and the quality of the viewing might improve.

I found, when I had DSL, that method helped, sometimes, not every time

I have the highest speed Fios system now and I have not had problems with any “live” feeds of any kind.


38 posted on 08/05/2012 2:22:23 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Just listened to Bob Zubrin’s talk on the case for Mars. He’s been along some of these arguments since I had a subscription to Analog back in the 80s.


39 posted on 08/05/2012 7:22:25 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (Rome didn't fall in a day, either.)
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