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Surprise: Obama Campaign Explicitly Approved Reid's Anti-Romney Lies
Townhall.com ^ | August 4, 2012 | Guy Benson

Posted on 08/05/2012 4:02:41 AM PDT by Kaslin

Earlier this morning, Karl Rove appeared on Fox & Friends to discuss Harry Reid's reckless accusations against Mitt Romney.  In case you're just joining this controversy, the Senate Majority Leader has spent the last few days peddling a scurrilous and evidence-free claim that Romney is a serial tax evader.  Rove wondered aloud why our fraudulent post-partisan prince of a president hasn't denounced Reid:

Karl Rove Calls Out Harry Reid's 'Slimeball Nature'; Says the Senate Majority Leader Should Be 'Embarrassed and Ashamed'


There's a pretty straightforward answer to this question.  Obama isn't lifting a finger to put an end to this slanderous side-show because his campaign specifically gave Reid the green light to launch these baseless attacks.  Politico reports:
 

The ruthless Senate majority leader sees political gold in his attack on Romney — and he’s got the blessing from President Barack Obama’s campaign for the attack, even if he lacks evidence on Romney’s failure to pay taxes. Reid has calculated that the frenzy created by his charge has accomplished exactly what he sought to do: Turn the focus back onto the GOP nominee’s unreleased tax returns, according to several people close to the leader and the campaign. For Reid, he’s got virtually nothing to lose: His approval ratings back home are still upside-down, and he may not even run for reelection when he’s up for a sixth term in 2016. On top of that, his aides say, Reid genuinely believes his source...


As far as Reid and Obama are concerned, the more we're discussing this foundationless rumor, the less we're discussing the president's egregious record of economic failure.  Three quick points:

(1) Even if Reid has  special "source" inside Bain, which I sincerely doubt, said informant would have no access to Romney's personal tax returns. 

(2) A former McCain aide who vetted Romney as a potential Vice Presidential pick in 2008 has reviewed many years of the current presumptive nominee's tax returns.  He says everything was totally in order, and if anything, Mitt overpaid.

(3) Here's a quote from a "top Reid confidant," explaining Democrats' thinking on this smear campaign:
 

“What Republicans don’t get is the more they fire back at Reid, the more he will fight, and in the end, what will the topic be? Romney and his taxes.


How does one effectively combat an opponent with no shame, no decency, and not even a tenuous commitment to the truth?  One option is to take the high road, fight the smears, and continue to push your message.  For the record, this is the road I would personally recommend.  ("Oh, that's interesting Harry -- get back to me when you have some evidence.  Incidentally, have you seen the latest jobs report?")  Another option is to get down into the Democrats' mud and fight dirty.  As amusing as the Reid/pedophilia "accusation" saga is -- and we still haven't seen firm proof that the Senate Majority Leader doesn't fondle little boys -- it won't break through and capture the narrative spotlight.  If Republicans are interested in getting nasty and force-feeding Democrats some of their own repulsive medicine, they would need to make it about Obama.  Here's what they could do (not an endorsement, just an illustration):  Get a senior and high-profile Republican member of Congress to give an on-the-record "scoop" to a site like, say, Townhall.com.  Let's use Sen. John McCain as an example; as a former presidential nominee and a media fixture, he'd do the trick.  McCain could say that he's heard from "a source" inside the Justice Department that President Obama exerted executive privilege in the Fast & Furious scandal because he didn't want the public to discover that he himself ordered the operation.  McCain might add that he isn't totally sure if the leak is true, but he still believes it to be accurate -- and that it is up to Obama to release every single document pertaining to Fast & Furious to prove that he didn't directly order it.  After all, the president has been extremely secretive about the program, even as hundreds of its murdered victims' families demand justice.  Romney wouldn't have to comment on the allegation, aside from affirming that Americans "deserve answers" about the lethal gun-running operation. (The public agrees).  McCain could keep making the allegation day after day, with Democrats rushing to condemn him.  The truth wouldn't matter, though; the more they'd fire back at McCain, the more he'd fight, and in the end, what would the topic be?  Barack Obama's bloody scandal that killed hundreds of innocent people, including a US border agent.   See how this works?

The above scenario is a nearly perfect parallel to what Democrats are doing now, except Obama's scandal actually exists, and real blood has been spilled.  The only stretch/fabrication would be Obama's direct involvement in it, rather than just his Attorney General.  There are, of course, a few problems with this scenario: First, the media simply would not abide such tactics from Republicans (even as the cover Reid's lying buffoonery as a partisan squabble), and second, John McCain is an honorable man.  Democrats are working with two insurmountable advantages here -- a press that covers for them, and a surplus of dishonorable actors.


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1 posted on 08/05/2012 4:02:54 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
Is anyone surprised, shocked or beside themselves? Here we have rats trapped in a box in a sinking ship with no way out. As we get closer these cretans with all the power will be ratcheting it up in all areas and then after the election and defeat these unruly, undisciplined children will be destroying everything “ American” nationally, economically and internationally.
2 posted on 08/05/2012 4:11:19 AM PDT by ronnie raygun (bb)
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To: ronnie raygun
Harry Reid is a cowardly creature, and a poor excuse of a human being.

I wish Romney would call him on it, and make that little toad sweat in his own filth.

3 posted on 08/05/2012 4:26:10 AM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Kaslin
A McCain aide is now trotted out as an expert on Romney's taxes?

That's only good through 2006 for a final submission, at most ~ this is 2012 ~ 6 years later.

Lot can go on in a lengthy period.

This gives you an idea of how desperate Romney is to NOT reveal a couple of critical years between when he last ran for President and now. No wonder the Democrats are suspicious.

4 posted on 08/05/2012 4:28:32 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Look, anyone that has done a research on this will KNOW that 1) if you have nothing to run on, you demonize and 2) Obamaidiot and his surrogates have long utilized demonization and character assassination to gain office(s) - example: ObamaIdiot and his surrogates used them to become Senator, used them to remove Hillary Clinton to become the DNC presidential nominee, and used them (along with the garbage ‘hope and change’messaging) to become POTUS.

They will do likewise now to gain a 2nd term if Romney and his timid ass staff do not grow some balls and hit back twice as hard every time the Anointedidiot moves his lying lips. =.=


5 posted on 08/05/2012 4:37:01 AM PDT by cranked
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To: Kaslin

anyone know if this comes under the libel law? There seems to be malice behind the accusation...


6 posted on 08/05/2012 4:37:42 AM PDT by LadyDoc
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To: Kaslin

Romney should bring up Reid’s shady land deals.

Romney should bring up how Dirty Harry has run the Senate and how he is partly directly responsible for the current state of the country (not passing a budget, insisting on taxing the rich more, etc.)


7 posted on 08/05/2012 4:39:30 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: Kaslin
Yes,Reid certainly *should* be embarrassed and ashamed.However,for one to be capable of experiencing genuine embarrassment or shame he/she must first have a *conscience*.Does anybody in this country truly believe that either Dirty Harry or Osama Obama actually has a conscience?
8 posted on 08/05/2012 4:41:41 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: ronnie raygun

Of course these people are terrible: they are Progressives...which means they are intellectual thugs...truth means nothing to them.

Still, it is depressing that the Romney people did not get out in front on this tax thing. He should have released them months ago...taken the hit...and moved on.

Now we will have a campaign in which every Obama supporter in the media (great majority of them) will talk about Romney’s taxes.

This will be one of the three or four major issues in this campaign. And it is a shame...because Obama has run this economy into the ground.

This election should be a Romney landslide...the Republican “etch-a-sketch” campaign team could lose it.


9 posted on 08/05/2012 4:44:55 AM PDT by kjo (+)
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To: Kaslin
It is STILL about defending the Author of ObamaCARE
rather then GOING AFTER OBAMACARE, right Kaslin?

It is STILL about defending the Author of Gay MArriage
by his Improper Executive Authority rather then helping
the BOY SCOUTS, right Kaslin?

And it is STILL about defending Mr. ROmneyCARE's
weak record instead of going after Obama, Traitor
to the USA. Why, Kaslin?

Why is TEAM ROMNEY ONLY willling to attack conservatives?

Fast and Furious. - Mr. RomneyCARE is quiet and hides.

Boy Scouts. - Mr. RomneyCARE is against conservatives.

Chick a fil - Mr. RomneyCARE is against conservatives.

Fake Birth certificate - Mr. RomneyCARE is against conservatives.

10 posted on 08/05/2012 4:46:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: LadyDoc
anyone know if this comes under the libel law?

A Senator and Representative,when speaking from the floor of the Senate or House,is immune from all charges of libel/slander,etc.Of course,such individuals just might be subject to certain felony charges related to the unauthorized dissemination of a private citizen's tax records.

11 posted on 08/05/2012 4:46:55 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: muawiyah
Romney has specifically and on the record denied the claim he paid no income taxes for the past 10 years.

It is quite obvious the Dems want the tax records not because they believe this sham but because once released they will pour over them line by line by line and highlight every tax advantage Romney used and making the point “average” tax payers could not do likewise because they aren't rich enough.

He is correct to refuse and he simply needs to stick to what the voters feel are the important issues. No voter will change their vote and no undecideds will make their final choice on something like this.

12 posted on 08/05/2012 4:47:41 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Kaslin

To be pulling this kind of baloney, the Dems must be truly desperate.


13 posted on 08/05/2012 4:48:23 AM PDT by Rocky (Obama is pure evil.)
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To: Kaslin

“a press that covers for them, and a surplus of dishonorable actors”


It’s a monumental task to overcome these two plus an out of work Judge Judy watching electorate. I’m worried about this today.


14 posted on 08/05/2012 4:49:49 AM PDT by major-pelham
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To: Kaslin

Harry Reid is rocketing up the “most despicable public figure” charts in my world, but that’s probably because he’s the only one getting the airplay this week.


15 posted on 08/05/2012 4:50:36 AM PDT by the invisib1e hand (Woe to them...)
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To: sauropod
Romney should bring up Reid’s shady land deals.

That just extends the story another news cycle, adding to the distraction away from the Kenyan's pathetic Marxist record. Romney should tell Harry to put up or STFU.

16 posted on 08/05/2012 4:54:02 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: beenaround
Talking points are no longer adequate or useful when dealing Romney. We saw that he dismissed the need for the First Amendment (free speech) when it came to recognizing the Chick Fil A demonstration.

He's a rich guy who has been able to buy what he wanted for many years. He's lost touch with America.

BTW, the Obamistas can't use that against him because they too have no use for the First Amendment, and could care less if he pays no taxes. They don't either!

But just because Romney is morally the equivalent of his opponent is no reason to let him off the hook on these matters.

This is not, after all, a contest between the Commies and the Nazis ~

17 posted on 08/05/2012 4:55:09 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

Romney should run an ad showing a clip of arpaio’s press conference. The part where Zullo says it’s a photos hopped fake. Force him to address the allegations. Two can play that game. The media won’t. Be able to sweep it under the rug once a pac puts it front and center.


18 posted on 08/05/2012 4:56:04 AM PDT by jersey117
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To: Gay State Conservative

Why does no one bring up Reid’s shady dealings while in Nevada. Put Reid on the defensive.


19 posted on 08/05/2012 4:56:16 AM PDT by IM2MAD
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To: cranked
How easily we forget that the DNC didn't have to work very hard on the "Hildabeast is a demon" story ~ she'd accomplished that task herself ~ mostly because she is.

BTW, NOBODY Feels sorry for the Hildabeast.

20 posted on 08/05/2012 5:03:59 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Kaslin

I doubt you will ever hear Obama say anything about the need to disclose additional personal records. He absolutely can’t afford to do that. Deiberate use of ridiculous surrogates will be the SOP for the RATS

If Biden says anything you know it will have been published before by someone else.


21 posted on 08/05/2012 5:05:51 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: Kaslin

I doubt you will ever hear Obama say anything about the need to disclose additional personal records. He absolutely can’t afford to do that. Deiberate use of ridiculous surrogates will be the SOP for the RATS

If Biden says anything you know it will have been published before by someone else.


22 posted on 08/05/2012 5:06:01 AM PDT by rod1 (CTLY)
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To: muawiyah

Your Romney hate is outrageous. If he operated legally why should any voter care how much tax he paid to the federal government? I know I’m happy to pay as little as possible and so is every red blooded American, including Obama’s supporters who pay nothing and GET money from the rest of us.

I admire Romney for being a smart businessman and following the tax code to his greatest advantage - exactly as the law was designed.


23 posted on 08/05/2012 5:07:56 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Kaslin
I'm telling you, the proper response is to have a guy in a rabbit costume shadow Reid everywhere he goes during the current recess.


24 posted on 08/05/2012 5:08:27 AM PDT by tanknetter
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To: LadyDoc
Nothing a member of Congress says on Capitol Hill, in a Congressional office (in DC or 'back home') ~ or wherever a Congressional committee might convene ~ can be held for account 'in any other place'.

Reid has carefully made his statements on the Senate floor, or in his office inside the Capitol Building.

It could be libel, but it's not actionable.

Besides, Romney wouldn't sue Harry over it anyway ~ several reasons ~ (1) discovery ~ Romney isn't likely to want to defend his tax filings in court, (2) they are brother Mormons ~ who are expected to resolve disputes among themselves and not bother everybody else with their problems, (3) Romney wants to be President and Harry already is Senate majority leader ~ big jobs for big men eh? Or at least they want you to think that way. A trip to the courthouse with a petty matter like this is probably not in the cards.

These things, BTW, used to be settled in DUELS. Frankly, it's time to reconsider that practice as an option.

25 posted on 08/05/2012 5:10:42 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LadyDoc

From commentaries I have heard, Reid is protected as a Senator, because he made his allegations on the Senate floor.

Had/if he makes them outside the Senate, he is open to legal charges, however.

Team Romney does need to pressure Reid to reveal his source, since 'anonymous' is always a weak source. Of course, with Dems, it is always the seriousness of the charge rather than the facts to the prove it.
26 posted on 08/05/2012 5:12:31 AM PDT by TomGuy
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To: Kaslin

What Harry Reid did was the political equivalent of masturbating in public, thus affirming what we all know: He is a jerkoff. Harry must have mutual imaginary friends with Tom Daschel and Little Dick Gephart, or else it it those pesky voices in his head again.


27 posted on 08/05/2012 5:12:44 AM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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To: Williams
Hearing that class warfare thing from yet another Mittbot. Don't you guys have anything better to do than sit around imagining somebody else is getting away without paying taxes.

This is modern America. NOBODY gets away without paying something somewhere.

One of your kind already did quite vile things to the pooch when he added, as an aside after his little tax rant that "only a fool would overpay his taxes". That's why my expressed concern in this matter is that ONLY by seeing those returns for the last 6 years can we determine if Romney is perhaps a FOOL who overpays his taxes.

28 posted on 08/05/2012 5:15:38 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: IM2MAD
Why does no one bring up Reid’s shady dealings while in Nevada. Put Reid on the defensive.

Very true.Anyone who's seen the film "Casino" knows that it's an outstanding film based on an absolutely true story and on real people.There's one scene in which one of the main characters appears before a Nevada Gaming Commission board for approval of a license.He was assured before the meeting that the license would be approved but as soon as the meeting is called to order the Chairman calls for a vote and it's not approved.Long story short...the petitioner gets the Chairman,a Nevada State Senator,to basically admit to a form of corruption.That Senator,played by Tommy Smothers,was,in real life,none other than State Senator Harry Reid.

Crooked as a corkscrew out there in Nevada...be it Goodman,defense lawyer to the Mob before becoming Mayor of Las Vegas or be it State Senator Harry Reid.

And exactly how many tax returns is it that Reid's released during his stellar career? Nearly one IIRC.

29 posted on 08/05/2012 5:17:04 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: tanknetter
I'm telling you, the proper response is to have a guy in a rabbit costume shadow Reid everywhere he goes during the current recess.

That might prove difficult given that Reid's spending the recess as the guest of his good friend and confidant,Hugo Chavez.

30 posted on 08/05/2012 5:21:16 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Poor Barack.If He's Reelected,Think Of The Mess He'll Inherit!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

He’s already done that.


31 posted on 08/05/2012 5:24:08 AM PDT by sauropod (You can elect your very own tyranny - Mark Levin)
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To: muawiyah

I’m a fool and you are a conservative worrying about whether Romney overpaid his taxes? That’s your big issue? If I’m a fool I’m an old one and in all my years I’ve never worried about how much a presidential candidate paid in taxes. I’m so ditzy I worried about defense, terrorism, deficits, and so on.


32 posted on 08/05/2012 5:24:29 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Kaslin

save for later


33 posted on 08/05/2012 5:24:52 AM PDT by submarinerswife (Insanity is doing the same thing over and over, while expecting different results~Einstein)
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To: rod1
I don't believe Democrats even use the word 'records' anymore. Here you have Reid saying Romney didn't pay taxes for 10 years ~ notice he's not saying Romney didn't file a return, just that he didn't pay taxes.

It's actually very difficult to imagine how someone avoids paying something in taxes (unless you're Sean Hannity for example who thinks the only tax is the federal personal income tax )

Harry Reid is telling the story as if he got the information from one or several of Romney's former business associates ~ and he's not telling it outside of Congress ~ and he's not using the word "records" and there's a whole lot of other things he's not saying in this. It's a well rehearsed and evaluated one sided dialogue.

We can't even fairly infer from what Reid has said that Obama himself has called up Romney's tax filings and reviewed them. That's how carefully crafted this is.

I"m sure there are some other "Things avoided" and in figuring that part out we can see what the Obamistas want us to not demand of them.

At the same time I reserve judgment on Romney. I want to see if he's a fool who overpays taxes.

34 posted on 08/05/2012 5:25:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Williams
I'm much more worried about defense, financial stability, freedom, individualism, terrorism and all that other stuff than you ever could be so don't even try.

I am of the belief a fool like Obama should not be in charge, and also of the belief that if Romney is a fool who overpays his taxes he certainly shouldn't be in charge either.

35 posted on 08/05/2012 5:27:18 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
A McCain aide is now trotted out as an expert on Romney's taxes? That's only good through 2006 for a final submission, at most ~ this is 2012 ~ 6 years later. Lot can go on in a lengthy period. This gives you an idea of how desperate Romney is to NOT reveal a couple of critical years between when he last ran for President and now. No wonder the Democrats are suspicious.

Freaking amazing that you will stoop this low - why condone the spreading of lies if "the truth will set us all free"? Why be complicit in the purveyance of lies if your "truth" will stand on its own?

36 posted on 08/05/2012 5:27:57 AM PDT by trebb ("If a man will not work, he should not eat" From 2 Thes 3)
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To: Williams; beenaround
I find it shameful that some in here don't realize that they aiding and abetting the rats with their hatred they have against Governor Romney. Being either that he is a mormon, or that he from the very liberal state Massachusetts, which by their idiotic logic must make him a liberal also.

They would rather see that arrogant pos occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Ave get reelected and finish his destruction of this great nation

37 posted on 08/05/2012 5:29:48 AM PDT by Kaslin (Acronym for OBAMA: One Big Ass Mistake America)
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To: trebb
You sound like the true believers who back the equally foolish and incapable Obama.

Romney has no business in this contest.

38 posted on 08/05/2012 5:30:10 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Rocky
To be pulling this kind of baloney, the Dems must be truly desperate.

Desperate or not, it's working for them!!!

I can't for the life of me believe that the Dems have a monopoly on "dirty tricks" operatives. How is it possible that after years and years of working for a political crime syndicate, all these actors are so squeaky clean, not even one child molester or such among them???

39 posted on 08/05/2012 5:30:46 AM PDT by varon (The patriots stand guard tonight.)
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To: muawiyah

The Democrats are not suspicious. Suspicion requires analytic thought. Democrats do not have analytic thought, since they come from the LEFT side of the Bell Curve. Remember the bullies in school who ended up in Special Ed? These bullies are prime examples of corrupt Democrats.

Obama and Reid are the unprincipled bullies of the political world.


40 posted on 08/05/2012 5:32:09 AM PDT by abclily
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To: muawiyah

“This gives you an idea of how desperate Romney is to NOT reveal a couple of critical years ...”

No, this gives you an idea of how desperate Obama and his surrogates are to bury Fast and Furious.

F&F is Watergate all over again and, if it dominates the news for any period of time, Obama has TWO ways of being ejected from the White House.


41 posted on 08/05/2012 5:32:34 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: Williams

BTW, no real Conservative places his trust in the IRS to properly enforce the law. They play favorites, and they have their enemies. They’ve also been on a tear against conservative churches for decades.


42 posted on 08/05/2012 5:32:57 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah
Now, today and for this election my over riding concern is that the as*hole in the WH be removed. To that end I will support WHOMEVER is the nominee despite them not being my choice. To go further I would support a dragged in off the street sh*t covered drunk if it were he who was the nominee.

That's how important I believe it is to STOP this schmuck in the WH. I don't believe ANYONE else could be any worse and the first thing to do is to stop him.

I am not advocating FOR Romney nearly as much as I am against Obama.

43 posted on 08/05/2012 5:33:10 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: beenaround

He did? Did you take a real close look at what he said ~


44 posted on 08/05/2012 5:33:48 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: muawiyah

Since you know you worry more about the issues than me, why don’t you just use your esp to answer your questions about Romney’s taxes?


45 posted on 08/05/2012 5:34:29 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: muawiyah

Quite honestly I lack your powers of discernment and have no idea what you’re going on about. If your concern is the one you’re going on about here, I don’t care and neither does anyone else. It’s clearly not an issue anyone cares about, the overpayment of taxes.


46 posted on 08/05/2012 5:38:54 AM PDT by Williams (No Obama)
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To: Williams
it was sufficient cause for another serious Mittbot to say a man would be quite the fool to overpay taxes.

Whatever you guys say is a serious matter and worth analyzing, right?

47 posted on 08/05/2012 5:45:11 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: beenaround

Romney could be identical, or far worse. Neither candidate is acceptable.


48 posted on 08/05/2012 5:46:12 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: beenaround

You’re right, beenaround. Job One is beating Obama. Period.

What Reid is doing is “taking one for the team”.

He is virtually bulletproof, having just been re-elected; additionally, he appears to be immune from any libel, slander or defamation charges.

Reid is simply saying and doing the most outrageous things in an attempt to divert attention from the miserable record of the Obama administration in general, and from Fast and Furious in particular.


49 posted on 08/05/2012 5:46:26 AM PDT by Walrus (Restoring America starts today! Let's roll!)
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To: Walrus
Easy way for Romney to get Fast and Furious back on the front burner is to resolve the issue over nonpayment of taxes.

Else, this will linger.

50 posted on 08/05/2012 5:47:40 AM PDT by muawiyah
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