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GOP steers clear of gay marriage issue
POLITICO ^ | Aug 6 2012 | MAGGIE HABERMAN and EMILY SCHULTHEIS

Posted on 08/06/2012 6:59:15 AM PDT by scottjewell

When Democrats announced that their 2012 platform would include a historic first — gay marriage written in as a plank — the reaction from mainstream Republicans was near silence.

There were no statements blasted out from Mitt Romney’s campaign. The same was true for the Republican National Committee. Romney has yet to address the the fact.

The pushback came largely from social conservatives and evangelicals, who pledged to make same-sex unions an issue going forward and insisted the stand will hurt Democrats.

But the comparative quiet from party leaders would have been unimaginable even four years ago, when public opinion hadn’t yet shifted so rapidly on a signature social issue. And it marks a dramatic change among some of the top Republican donors and opinion-makers, who are supporting same-sex marriage in state-based gay legislative and legal fights, even as the official GOP platform will remain centered on traditional marriage.

“Most Republican Party leaders seem to have lost the stomach for this fight,” said Dan Schnur of the Jesse M. Unruh Institute of Politics at the University of Southern California.

(Excerpt) Read more at politico.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; 2012rncplatform; homosexualagenda; romney; romney2012; romneyagenda; romneymarriage; romneyvsclerks; samesexmarriage; shammarriage
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"But the comparative quiet from party leaders would have been unimaginable even four years ago, when public opinion hadn’t yet shifted so rapidly on a signature social issue."

This is what seems so stunning to me: In 2008, liberals like Hilary Clinton, John Edwards, and Obama himself all said they believed marriage was between a man and a woman, as Kerry had said on '04. How things have changed.

1 posted on 08/06/2012 6:59:20 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

The Constitution does not contain anything about marriage in the Federal sphere — at all.

We do not make government smaller by expanding it to cover marriage. This is something the states should handle, period.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:17 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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To: scottjewell

Social issues come in great floods after a few cracks appear in the social consciousness.

I don’t think everyone believes that Gay marriage is an important issue, but enough people think it is important enough that they network every story now. The fact that so few protesters showed up at the Chick Fil-A kiss in, means that this movement has only just started to gather momentum.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:57 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: scottjewell

It has all to do with money. The rich gays said they wouldn’t support Obama et al financially unless they came out for gay marriage. Their real constituency - black Americans - are poor. So under the bus they go!


4 posted on 08/06/2012 7:05:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein

That right there may be the only way the black vote will finally be divided between the two parties.

I don’t know... Ethics and morals in the United States have been on decline for a long time now. This is just another mile-stone on the slippery slope.


5 posted on 08/06/2012 7:08:37 AM PDT by Bayard
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“Most Republican Party leaders seem to have lost the stomach for this fight,”

A reporter could safely paste this quote into articles on any number of issues with no fear of being wrong. For example, is anyone in the GOP talking about Obamacare any more? Mitt Romney sure isn't.

6 posted on 08/06/2012 7:11:08 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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Our representatives at the federal level should limit themselves to reducing government to constitutionally mandated size.

Everything else, including social issue reforms, will naturally follow.

7 posted on 08/06/2012 7:11:56 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: pepsi_junkie

Mitt’s single biggest donor owns wedding chapels that perform gay “marriages” every day. Nobody is going to talk about that either because quite frankly most conservatives are pure coward.


8 posted on 08/06/2012 7:14:46 AM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: miss marmelstein

You are right. Huge amounts of money are being committed by wealthy gays to pass the marriage law in New York and get this plank into the Democratic platform. Yet in the end the American people will not endorse this nonsense and it will hurt the Democrats even if the Republicans they say nothing.


9 posted on 08/06/2012 7:15:40 AM PDT by allendale
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To: scottjewell
This is what seems so stunning to me: In 2008, liberals like Hilary Clinton, John Edwards, and Obama himself all said they believed marriage was between a man and a woman, as Kerry had said on '04. How things have changed.

Obama's stance on this has always been misinterpreted, IMO. The standard Dem response to an issue like "gay marriage" or abortion is to say "I'm personally opposed to it, but think it should be made available to anyone who wants it"; which essentially makes them a supporter of the thing in question.

10 posted on 08/06/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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To: miss marmelstein

Yes, under the bus they go. Says a lot about Obama.


11 posted on 08/06/2012 7:18:52 AM PDT by scottjewell
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The dems just want to change the conversation from Obama’s horrible economic record to gay marriage. I’m glad the Romney team isn’t taking the bait and are sticking to the winning issue.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 7:22:42 AM PDT by circlecity
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“Most Republican Party leaders seem to have lost the stomach for this fight,”

Many Republican Party leaders are probably closeted homosexuals.


13 posted on 08/06/2012 7:23:07 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: Sans-Culotte

Yes, I suppose that is what it amounts to. And he probably ran in ‘08 with plans to “evolve”.


14 posted on 08/06/2012 7:27:11 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: SatinDoll
The Constitution does not contain anything about marriage in the Federal sphere — at all.

Indeed, and the govt should get out of marriage altogether.

15 posted on 08/06/2012 7:30:07 AM PDT by DTogo (High time to bring back the Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: SatinDoll

“The Constitution does not contain anything about marriage in the Federal sphere — at all.

We do not make government smaller by expanding it to cover marriage. This is something the states should handle, period.”

Yes, all true. Only problem is as with divorce in prior times (say the 1920s and ‘30s) or abortion if some states legalize something, others follow suit and then as time passes it becomes a uniform, national thing. And then federal.


16 posted on 08/06/2012 7:30:43 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Bayard

You mean then that the movement against it is beginnig to gather momentum, correct?


17 posted on 08/06/2012 7:32:47 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: scottjewell

Nope, I believe we haven’t seen the end of homosexual activism. I do think that a big loss for Obama would put a stop to it for a time, but the horse has left the stable.

Too many people either don’t see the dangers, or they don’t care.


18 posted on 08/06/2012 7:37:40 AM PDT by Bayard
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There were no statements blasted out from Mitt Romney’s campaign.

Ah, so . . . after the "dangerous time to be a woman" ad, one of Mitt's people said, "That's ridiculous!" -- but Mitt said nothing.

Mitt's between a rock and a hard place both on gay marriage and abortion. His actions supported both, while his words opposed both (finally, in the case of abortion; he was a latecomer). Working both sides of the street only works until someone calls you on the issue!

19 posted on 08/06/2012 7:37:51 AM PDT by maryz
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To: circlecity

I guess you may be correct. I do think gay marriage is an important issue but if the parties change due to economic issues that is important enough.


20 posted on 08/06/2012 7:38:37 AM PDT by scottjewell
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