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"But the comparative quiet from party leaders would have been unimaginable even four years ago, when public opinion hadn’t yet shifted so rapidly on a signature social issue."

This is what seems so stunning to me: In 2008, liberals like Hilary Clinton, John Edwards, and Obama himself all said they believed marriage was between a man and a woman, as Kerry had said on '04. How things have changed.

1 posted on 08/06/2012 6:59:20 AM PDT by scottjewell
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The Constitution does not contain anything about marriage in the Federal sphere — at all.

We do not make government smaller by expanding it to cover marriage. This is something the states should handle, period.


2 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:17 AM PDT by SatinDoll (Natural Born Citizen - born in the USA of citizen parents.)
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Social issues come in great floods after a few cracks appear in the social consciousness.

I don’t think everyone believes that Gay marriage is an important issue, but enough people think it is important enough that they network every story now. The fact that so few protesters showed up at the Chick Fil-A kiss in, means that this movement has only just started to gather momentum.


3 posted on 08/06/2012 7:04:57 AM PDT by Bayard
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It has all to do with money. The rich gays said they wouldn’t support Obama et al financially unless they came out for gay marriage. Their real constituency - black Americans - are poor. So under the bus they go!


4 posted on 08/06/2012 7:05:39 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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“Most Republican Party leaders seem to have lost the stomach for this fight,”

A reporter could safely paste this quote into articles on any number of issues with no fear of being wrong. For example, is anyone in the GOP talking about Obamacare any more? Mitt Romney sure isn't.

6 posted on 08/06/2012 7:11:08 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie (Who is John Galt?)
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Our representatives at the federal level should limit themselves to reducing government to constitutionally mandated size.

Everything else, including social issue reforms, will naturally follow.

7 posted on 08/06/2012 7:11:56 AM PDT by skeeter
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This is what seems so stunning to me: In 2008, liberals like Hilary Clinton, John Edwards, and Obama himself all said they believed marriage was between a man and a woman, as Kerry had said on '04. How things have changed.

Obama's stance on this has always been misinterpreted, IMO. The standard Dem response to an issue like "gay marriage" or abortion is to say "I'm personally opposed to it, but think it should be made available to anyone who wants it"; which essentially makes them a supporter of the thing in question.

10 posted on 08/06/2012 7:17:42 AM PDT by Sans-Culotte ( Pray for Obama- Psalm 109:8)
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The dems just want to change the conversation from Obama’s horrible economic record to gay marriage. I’m glad the Romney team isn’t taking the bait and are sticking to the winning issue.


12 posted on 08/06/2012 7:22:42 AM PDT by circlecity
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“Most Republican Party leaders seem to have lost the stomach for this fight,”

Many Republican Party leaders are probably closeted homosexuals.


13 posted on 08/06/2012 7:23:07 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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There were no statements blasted out from Mitt Romney’s campaign.

Ah, so . . . after the "dangerous time to be a woman" ad, one of Mitt's people said, "That's ridiculous!" -- but Mitt said nothing.

Mitt's between a rock and a hard place both on gay marriage and abortion. His actions supported both, while his words opposed both (finally, in the case of abortion; he was a latecomer). Working both sides of the street only works until someone calls you on the issue!

19 posted on 08/06/2012 7:37:51 AM PDT by maryz
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when the enemy is destroying themselves, stay out of their way.

Why should they comment? a response would be used by the MSM as a distraction. The lack of response left the MSM to repeatedly state over and over and over that the DNC was endorsing fetish based marriage. Specifically homosexual based marriage.

You can make the DNC look more freaky and abnormal.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 7:39:25 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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Unfortunately we live in a feminized homsexualized nation now. God and religion are like a societies immune system. Once the social immune system starts to break down, perverted diseases attack.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 7:43:26 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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The left and the media are trying to set the narritive to gather info to use against the GOP and Romney. The best thing they can do is continue to ignore the gay rights mess, it's not a Federal issue at all.

It reminds me of the George Stephanopolis/contraception question at the debates...thrown out only to start a controversy and to change the subject.

The "broken record" technique will be the way to go, Romney needs to hammer on the issues, i.e. economy, regulation, FEDERAL taxes, and the aborition called Obamacare. He needs to be relentless and unwaivering, keeping the narritive on the subject at hand and not a bunch of fudge packers, as they will only try to "fil-A" him.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 7:50:58 AM PDT by FrankR (They will become our ultimate masters the day we surrender the 2nd Amendment.)
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The reason “conservatives” can’t resist this is that the destruction of real marriage between 1969-1973, and the resulting explosion of sexual immorality, including in the churches, makes opposing tax benefits and estate planning advantages for gays (which are all that’s left of “traditional” marriage) seem unfair.

If pre-1969 marriage were to be restored (permanent, infidelity criminally punished, no second marriages with a spouse living, no child support for “single moms”) no homosexual would go anywhere near it.


27 posted on 08/06/2012 8:00:53 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved or not at all.)
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Romney will come out for gay marriage. Maybe after the election, but soon.


28 posted on 08/06/2012 8:02:00 AM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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That is part of why Republicans will not win the presidency in November. They will not support issues supported by demonstrated majorities of the people because those positions are unpopular with the Left. Republicans would rather have the favor of or at least less opprobrium from the people who constitute the Elite the Republicans would like to join, or at least receive approval from.


30 posted on 08/06/2012 8:05:38 AM PDT by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson)
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The Democrats have realized that the gay agenda can be thrown out like little balls of poop for Republicans to step on, and if Republicans spend enough time cleaning it off of their shoes, the Obamatrama will get a pass.


36 posted on 08/06/2012 8:23:40 AM PDT by pallis
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The Republican campaign planks, Domestic, should be jobs and the economy. Period.

The DemocRAT campaign planks are well known > squirel

The rats cannot run on their record. The Republicans need to stick to their campaign.


49 posted on 08/06/2012 9:14:14 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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Gay marriage is but a footnote on most people’s list of pressing issues, IMO.


53 posted on 08/06/2012 9:36:54 AM PDT by GSWarrior (Businessmen are more trustworthy than professors, politicians and preachers.)
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There were no statements blasted out from Mitt Romney’s campaign. The same was true for the Republican National Committee. Romney has yet to address the the fact.
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Yeah...


63 posted on 08/06/2012 11:12:14 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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There were no statements blasted out from Mitt Romney’s campaign. The same was true for the Republican National Committee. Romney has yet to address the the fact.
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If Willard was going to come out against gay marriage he would have done so weeks ago...

The timing and the atmosphere are perfect right now to show the difference between the GOP and the Dems...

But not Willard...

Hes too busy being Obamas mirror image...

The silence will suggest consent ...


66 posted on 08/06/2012 11:19:53 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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