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Will Romney VP Choice Unite (Only) Bush-Romney Wing of the GOP?(And ignore other 75% of base?)
Conservative HQ ^ | 8/6/12 | Richard A. Viguerie

Posted on 08/06/2012 12:10:45 PM PDT by xzins

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To: NormsRevenge

I think the greatest effect of the tea party will be felt in congress and nearly nonexistent in the white house race.


21 posted on 08/06/2012 12:50:04 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
Too late brother. mitt and the gop/e have pretty much destroyed the gop brand... a brand badly wounded from the 8 years of bush and the losing mcnasty campaign. From denying the Chick-Fil-A counter protest and declaring it not to be any part of his campaign... offering no support in any way... to refusing to make any effort to reach out to Conservatives in any way... not even a token "C" as a speaker... it is obvious that the gop of today has become the LIBERAL dim party of the 1980’s. The dims are now a marxist party.

LLS

22 posted on 08/06/2012 12:51:02 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: xzins

I received a GOP platform survey in the mail the other day. Actually, it was a plea for money disguised as a survey (as if they really care about rank and file opinions). It was a rather large packet of literature with no mention of conservatism or conservative values... None. Zip. Nada. I trashed it.


23 posted on 08/06/2012 12:55:36 PM PDT by vortigern
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To: LibLieSlayer

Today’s Republican Party is about as close to Ronald Reagan as today’s Democrat Party is to Henry “Scoop” Jackson.


24 posted on 08/06/2012 12:56:21 PM PDT by COBOL2Java (FUMR)
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To: cripplecreek

That’s where you want the biggest gathering of patriots, they can impeach dang near anybody .. sad it has come down to ObamaCare Lite and Obama


25 posted on 08/06/2012 12:56:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: xzins

Agreed. “Reality” is what you make it.
One could just as easily say that a vote for Mitt Romney is a vote for Obama because it keeps the truly conservative 3rd parties from winning.

I guess some people just think power is the GOP’s birthright.


26 posted on 08/06/2012 12:59:03 PM PDT by libdestroyer
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To: xzins
The speaker schedule announcements are more about who won't be the VP pick than who will be.
27 posted on 08/06/2012 1:01:12 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Crusher138
Reality is that if you think you will “teach the Republicans a lesson” by not voting you may be doing your country irreparable harm, possibly leading to a violent second civil war. Even so, if conservatives are not made part of this convention, millions of Republicans will abandon the Romney/Whoever ticket. You can't get party unity by threatening dire consequences. You have to do it by accepting and embracing those you don't like and asking for their help in winning.
28 posted on 08/06/2012 1:02:35 PM PDT by excopconservative
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To: Crusher138

You want him, you vote for him. I’m not stuck with someone I never had any intention of voting for. I don’t vote for liars or Socialists, and since Willard is both...


29 posted on 08/06/2012 1:04:24 PM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (If you like lying Socialist dirtbags, you'll love Slick Willard)
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To: NormsRevenge
... or why the GoP is so far adrift from the people they say they represent.

Because people keep voting for them against their better judgment, lacking the courage of their convictions. They are reaping what they've sown.

30 posted on 08/06/2012 1:05:40 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: xzins
...the other 75%

75%, really?

31 posted on 08/06/2012 1:06:13 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: xzins
...the other 75%

75%, really?

32 posted on 08/06/2012 1:06:13 PM PDT by EnquiringMind
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To: excopconservative
Even so, if conservatives are not made part of this convention, millions of Republicans will abandon the Romney/Whoever ticket.

Well, one problem is that you have a lot of self-described conservatives who are angry at virtually every possible VP alternative. For some folks, any Republican who has said he/she supports Romney is a "traitor" -- which knocks out everyone from Palin, to Rubio, to Ryan.

But I agree with your point -- Romney must make a real effort to appeal to conservatives, because we are the core of the party. I'd like to hear him give a bunch of those classic Reagan lines at the convention, and to nominate as a running mate someone who can articulate that message strongly.

The core theme of this election -- at least to me -- is for the American people to decide whether the government is the solution, or the problem. For Republicans to win, they have to be able to make that argument convincingly. And that will take someone as VP who can hammer that issue.

33 posted on 08/06/2012 1:12:01 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: NormsRevenge

I suggest more tea party action at the state convention level. One of the biggest liberals on the republican national committee was thrown out in Michigan a couple months back when Saul Anuzis was replaced with Dave Agema in Michigan. Agema isn’t perfect but he’s a step in the right direction.

In fact, I’m rather sick of listening to moderates flap their gums with holier than thou talk of compromise. They’ve shown again and again that they are the uncompromising ones who will vote democrat before voting conservative.


34 posted on 08/06/2012 1:17:28 PM PDT by cripplecreek (What does it profit a man if he gains the whole world but loses his soul?)
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To: EnquiringMind

It’s in the article.


35 posted on 08/06/2012 1:17:43 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: Crusher138
Reality is that if you think you will “teach the Republicans a lesson” by not voting you may be doing your country irreparable harm, possibly leading to a violent second civil war.

What are you worried about? We surround them. I'm not advocating civil war, but it's time we brought this thing to a showdown anyway.

"It's too late to work within the system, but too early to start shooting the bastards."
~ Claire Wolfe

36 posted on 08/06/2012 1:20:07 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Crusher138
No, you and Rush live in Wishville where Roll Over Blvd. is the name of the main drag.

You can roll over in surrender and vote for a stone-cold demonstrated liberal Democrat registered as a Republican and wish that he won't act like what he is ...

... or you can vote for a plurality and gamble on the fact that the last two times a liberal Democrat was elected president on a plurality, he was steamrolled by the Republican Revolution and then impeached -- in other words, pluralities have a history of FAVORING conservatives. We know that here in Realville.

Reality is that you folks in Wishville lack the courage to fight Obama and believe Republicans in Congress would lack it, too -- yet you wish what that same Congress will "hold Romney's feet to the fire." That isn't Realville, that's Wishville.

Reality is that not voting or voting for a third party candidate will help the Obomination get re-elected.

That sentiment lacks any address in Realville. In Realville, any and every third party vote is entirely neutral withe regard to favoring either major party candidate; it is MATH. Any and every third party vote counts toward reducing the popular vote count of whichever candidate wins. THAT IS MATH. But because you live in Wishville, where wishes are like fishes and you can have them fried, you can demonize those who refuse to vote the way you want them to by pretending that "a third party vote helps Obama get re-elected."

Over here in Realville, we would suggest you take up with HW Bush your idea that third party votes favor the incumbent when he's come to be loathed by the folks who voted for him previously, as Obama is becoming loathed as of now.

Over here in Realville, we remember all the boogie-man threats of executive orders and civil war and "American can't survive" etc. that have been levied at conservative Republicans since the days of Bill Clinton as a means to bully them into voting for liberal Republicans.

Meanwhile, in Wishville, where you and Rush live, you actually buy into the imaginary concept of "voting against Obama!" Maybe you can vote "against" in Wishville ...

... but here in Realville, we understand that indeed, on any ballot ever, you are only given the choice of voting FOR something.

I'm voting for a plurality because I live in Realville. You're voting for a stone-cold liberal Republican because you're in Wishville.

As Rush would say, "It is what it is."

37 posted on 08/06/2012 1:22:55 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Crusher138
possibly leading to a violent second civil war.

The downside of that is getting increasingly hard to see.

38 posted on 08/06/2012 1:46:23 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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To: muawiyah

I get a Romney photo and several letters virtually every day. Seems like the RNC and Romney just like to waste money on this junk mail. Why would anyone want to open the 100th letter from Romney if the first 99 never raised a penny? What about the passage of time would have changed my mind? What recent statement of his? Just axin.


39 posted on 08/06/2012 1:49:06 PM PDT by masadaman
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To: Finny

Well put!


40 posted on 08/06/2012 1:50:14 PM PDT by j_tull (Massachusetts once lead the American Revolution. Under Mitt Romney, it lead the demise.)
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