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Exclusive: Brigham Young’s Great-Great-Granddaughter on Mormonism and Mitt Romney
Daily Beast ^ | August 7, 2012 | Jamie Reno

Posted on 08/07/2012 3:45:40 PM PDT by greyfoxx39

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1 posted on 08/07/2012 3:45:48 PM PDT by greyfoxx39
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To: Colofornian; Elsie; svcw; Zakeet; Tennessee Nana; aMorePerfectUnion; Godzilla; fishtank; ...

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2 posted on 08/07/2012 3:48:00 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Mitt or Barry....unless some miracle happens, in which I’m still praying for. My vote will be decided on election day (not for barry), so the other guy gets it.

IF I had to choose between one or the other, it must be Mitt.


3 posted on 08/07/2012 3:49:54 PM PDT by NoGrayZone (For evil to triumph it is only necessary for good men to do nothing.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Don’t know how the red font happened.


4 posted on 08/07/2012 3:49:54 PM PDT by greyfoxx39 (Tell the 52,000 mormon missionaries to stop going worldwide proclaiming Christianity to be false.)
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To: greyfoxx39
Sue Emmett is Mormon royalty. Her great-great-grandfather was Brigham Young, the founder of Salt Lake City, first governor of Utah, and president and prophet of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (LDS) from 1847 until his death in 1877.

204 grand-children and 745 great-grandchildren according to the New York Times ... in 1902!

Oh, she's royalty alright.

5 posted on 08/07/2012 3:59:07 PM PDT by x
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To: greyfoxx39

This femenist ex-Mormon, who happens to be a descendant of Brigham Young, has no apparent personal knowledge of Mitt Romney and from the depth of that knowledge has determined that, strictly on the basis of the Mormon faith, Harry Reid is a LIAR!


6 posted on 08/07/2012 4:02:18 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: NoGrayZone

I am voting for neither.

I cannot in good conscience vote for either.

I will trust in God that He can do anything, but I don’t think He wants me to vote for either of them.


7 posted on 08/07/2012 4:03:30 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: greyfoxx39

How apt of you to print something from the obamabot uber-leftist wackos at Beastly Days!!


8 posted on 08/07/2012 4:04:04 PM PDT by parisa
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To: greyfoxx39

So is she voting for Obama, someone else or staying home? Inquiring minds want to know.


9 posted on 08/07/2012 4:06:38 PM PDT by kalee (The offenses we give, we write in the dust; Those we take, we engrave in marble. J Huett 1658)
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To: x

Almost as big as the Kennedy clan. ;)


10 posted on 08/07/2012 4:07:51 PM PDT by I_Publius
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She thinks she should be treated as “Royalty” because she is a descendant of Brigham Young.

She really is upset that the Bishop and Stake President didn't defer to her “Royal Heritage”.

11 posted on 08/07/2012 4:07:57 PM PDT by Dan(9698)
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To: parisa
How apt of you to print something from the obamabot uber-leftist wackos at Beastly Days!!

There is a small grout of Freepers who will post from any kind of site as long as it attacks Mormons. Very sad and rather pitiful.

12 posted on 08/07/2012 4:08:58 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: greyfoxx39
She held these questions close to the vest for many years until, in 1999, at the age of 55, she finally made the hard decision to leave the church.

"There was a powerful mystique around me that I was special because of my heritage, so it was really difficult for me to leave,” says Emmett, now 71.

The author (or Ms. Emmet) needs to check her math. If Emmet was 55 years old in 1999 she would be 68 years old today.

13 posted on 08/07/2012 4:10:25 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: greyfoxx39

Mitt - the republican John Kerry, the white Obama, the one whose history is everything the Tea Party opposes, and the first Cultic POTUS. No thanks.


14 posted on 08/07/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ("I'm comfortable with a Romney win." - Pres. Jimmy Carter)
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To: greyfoxx39

Just a minor point but if she was 55 in 1999, how is she 71 today?


15 posted on 08/07/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (Legalize Freedom!!)
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To: greyfoxx39

As the stepson of a Mormon with many Mormon family members, I say “Bullsqueeze” to this entire article.

The Mormon theology is kooky to me, but you can’t argue that it’s adherents aren’t honest, upright, and patriotic.


16 posted on 08/07/2012 4:10:43 PM PDT by clee1 (We use 43 muscles to frown, 17 to smile, and 2 to pull a trigger. I'm lazy and I'm tired of smiling.)
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The Mormon theology is kooky to me, but you can’t argue that it’s adherents aren’t honest, upright, and patriotic.

Oh, sure we could argue...

Unless, of course, Clee1, you'd like to round up ALL of the fraud victims reflected in these recent cases -- most of whom are Lds -- and then repeat your statement in their very presence:

Let's start with financial fraud just only going back to 2009

Lds members have fleeced over 1 & 1/2 billion from fellow Mormons the past few years alone! Guess what? They initially didn't regret "doing business" with them, either!!!
(2010 Source puts it at over $1.4 billion...and MORE has been uncovered since then!) : Mormons Now Losing Billions to Affinity Fraud

Can you fill me in any other religious sect that has less than 2% of the overall population (1.7%) -- that has launched at least $1.4 billion worth of fraud schemes vs. fellow sect members the past two or three years?

If you only have time to click on one article link below...read this one: JOHN L. SMITH: Thieves in the temple: How 'affinity fraud' hurts LDS church members
Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal, Sept. 12, 2010 Be sure to read the comments of FBI special agent Cameron Saxey (who is Lds)...the article mentions how the Utah jurisdictional Securities Fraud Task Force was working on 100+ cases...meaning that $1.4 billion total doesn't tell it all!

The sad individual accounts [Indeed: Pray for the victims, most Lds]:

* All in the Mormon Family Mortgage Fraud [Re: Idaho fraud]
Source: Conservative Babylon.com, June 27, 2012

* Episode Detail: The Mormon Madoff - American Greed: Scams, Scoundrels and Scandals
Source: TV Guide.com re: series American Greed: Scams, Scoundrels, and Scandals, June 20, 2012

* Former LDS bishop gets jail, probation for massive fraud
Source: Provo Herald, June 7, 2012

* LDS Bishop Pleads Guilty To Fraud
Source: Kutv.com, June 7, 2012

* Utah investors caught up in alleged $170M fraud: SEC says 2 men committed fraud as they raised $170M to build Caribbean resorts, and that 250 of the 1,700 alleged victims are from Utah
Source: Salt Lake Tribune, May 31, 2012

* Beware of affinity fraud ‘predators’ who exploit trust, LDS spokesman warns
Source: Fraud College.org, April 2, 2012

* Former LDS bishop charged with fraud, pleads not guilty
Connecticut Criminal Defense Blog, March 29, 2012

* Former Mormon Bishop In Trumbull Charged With Investor Fraud
Source: Hartford Courant, March 27, 2012

* The LDS Church Issues a Strong Position on Affinity Fraud
Source: Utah Securities Fraud.com, March 7, 2012

* Affinity Fraud Called a Destructive Crime at Conference
Source: Lds.org, Feb. 20, 2012

* Church Representative to Address Fraud College [From the official Lds Web site]
Source: Lds.org, Feb. 15, 2012

* Affinity Fraud statement
Source: Official Mormon Newsroom.org, Undated (Early 2012)

* Father, son used Mormon connections to commit $220M Ponzi scheme (Utah case)
Source: Mormon church-owned KSL.com, Dec. 16, 2011

* Former LDS bishop cons elderly man out of life savings, police say
Source: Provo Daily Herald, Oct. 19, 2011

* Tag archives @Utahsecuritiesfraud.com: LDS Church

* Provo councilman Steve Turley charged with felonies [LDS High Council Member]
Source: Provo Herald, July 27, 2011

* Feds arrest St. George business man, philanthropist for mail fraud
Source: Mormon-church owned KSL.com, June 11, 2011

* Former LDS leader charged in fraud against Ute football coach, others
Source: Salt Lake Tribune, June 8, 2011

* Suspected Mormon Con Artist Pleading Guilty to $78M Scam
Source: Streetsweeper.org, May 31, 2011

* Mormon Madoff? Source: Financial Fraud Law.com, May 27, 2011

* A Fraud Played Out on Family and Friends
Source: New York Times, May 26, 2011

* St. George investor ordered to jail [ex-Lds bishop]
Source: MidUtahRadio.com, April 15, 2011

* Using trust to steal (Utah affinity fraud)
Source: Ogden (UT) Standard Examiner, Feb. 3, 2011

* JOHN L. SMITH: Thieves in the temple: How 'affinity fraud' hurts LDS church members
Source: Las Vegas Review-Journal, Sept. 12, 2010

* Local political gadfly arrested for exploiting elderly woman
Source: Provo Daily Herald, May 4, 2010

* Preying on the faithful: Though Mormons often victims, LDS church skips fraud-prevention event
Source: Salt Lake Tribune, May 2, 2010

* Kaneohe swindler is sentenced
Source: Honolulu Star-Bulletin, April 6, 2010

* Investors with troubled firm have Mormon ties
Source: Austin American Statesman, Jan. 16, 2010

* Man Who Defrauded Fellow Church Goer Pleads Guilty
Source: www.connect2utah.com (KUTV) Jan. 7, 2010

* Lindon Man Accused of Trying to Kill Witnesses to Alleged Scam
Source: MidUtahRadio.com, Nov. 19, 2009

* KSL 5 News investigates affinity fraud
Source: KSL.com Nov. 9, 2009

* Mormon victims are caught up in $50M scam to sell gold bullion
Salt Lake Tribune, Sept. 18, 2009

* LDS Church returned $200K in Southwick Tithing
Source: AP, Sept. 14, 2009

* Merriman's church donations may be tained [Momon Ponzi schemer's tithe monies ill-gotten?]
Source: Denver Post, April 24, 2009

* Man Who Defrauded Fellow Church Goer Pleads Guilty
Source: Fox News, April 8, 2009

* Calif. Man Charged with $40 million Ponzi scheme
Source: AP, March 20, 2009

The bottom line here is that you would expect a church that has 2% of the nation's population to have about 2% of affinity fraud cases -- even if they were as criminal as the atheists and agnostics! [You would expect them to have less than 2% if there was a true higher moral standard at operation here]. You don't expect cases involving $one and a half BILLION!

And, of course...If Joseph Smith committed banking fraud...and if Joseph Smith committed massive spiritual fraud...then we would expect that seed to be planted within the Mormon church...and to germinate widely.

Joseph Smith's banking scam: Joseph Smith's Mormon Banking Scam

18 posted on 08/07/2012 4:18:11 PM PDT by Colofornian
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To: fishtank
"I am voting for neither."

That is my position also. How can we continue as "One nation under God" if we vote for a godless man as our only solution for this nation?

Got a good write in?

19 posted on 08/07/2012 4:19:09 PM PDT by Big_Harry (Ecc10:2 "A wise man's heart is at his right hand; but a fool's heart at his left")
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To: greyfoxx39

I’m always happy to hear of souls freed from religious cultism. While I have no sympathy for Mormonism, I have lived around, worked with and worked for Mormons, and that experience doesn’t discourage me in the least from voting for Romney. I was studying Walter Martin and listening to Christian apologists long before many here ever delved into studying the cults, and still, given a choice between Mormonism and the hate cult of liberation theology, I again go with Romney. If there were a better choice for getting rid of Obama, I’d take it, but there isn’t. Since Romney is the only choice I have that can rid us of Obama, I support him, Mormonism, Ivy League, establishment RINOism and all. Damn!


20 posted on 08/07/2012 4:19:56 PM PDT by pallis
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