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Morning Jay: The Race Is Romney's to Win
WEEKLY STANDARD ^ | August 8, 2012 | Jay Cost

Posted on 08/08/2012 1:37:18 PM PDT by neverdem

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1 posted on 08/08/2012 1:37:30 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem

Mr. RomneyCARE could not win against McCain.

And NOW ObamaCARE/RomneyCARE is despised.


2 posted on 08/08/2012 1:43:10 PM PDT by Diogenesis ("Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. " Pres. Ronald Reagan)
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To: neverdem
An interesting article, but he could lose by running a stupid, overly timid campaign against the usurper. He could listen to those who think he has to ignore the conservative base and win without them.

We'll see.

3 posted on 08/08/2012 1:45:28 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: neverdem

“various predictive models built around the polling averages tell us this”

I’d like to see those. I smell BS.

Gallup Analysis: Obama’s Chance of a Loss Greater Than a Win:

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/gallup-obama-romney-election/2012/05/17/id/439463


4 posted on 08/08/2012 1:48:15 PM PDT by BarnacleCenturion
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To: neverdem
With all of the evidence of who this man really is currently in the public domain, if he still wins in November I'm going to have to reassess my entire worldview.

Or at least reassess my impression of the character of this country.

And then I'm going to take as much of my life off the grid as I possibly can.

5 posted on 08/08/2012 1:52:24 PM PDT by skeeter
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To: Lakeshark
Oh, Obama is hated enough that Romney will win with out the base this time. That is the key....he will not win a second term because by then the dems will give their people someone to vote for and we will still have someone the base can not stand....great thinking.
6 posted on 08/08/2012 1:54:04 PM PDT by Lady Heron
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To: neverdem

Romney had better get busy and start acting like a conservative in order to differentiate himself from the current denizen of the White Hut.


7 posted on 08/08/2012 1:56:25 PM PDT by IbJensen (If you don't read the newspaper you are uninformed, if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed)
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To: Lady Heron
....he will not win a second term because by then the dems will give their people someone to vote for and we will still have someone the base can not stand....great thinking.

But...but...it's his turn this election cycle.

8 posted on 08/08/2012 2:00:07 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lady Heron
If he is dumb enough (and he may be) to ignore the base his first three years then he'll get a strong primary challenge; heck, maybe we'll even get a genuine conservative for a candidate.

I could handle that.

9 posted on 08/08/2012 2:00:10 PM PDT by Lakeshark (I don't care for Mitt; the alternative is unthinkable)
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To: neverdem

“The conventional wisdom in the presidential race is that President Obama is a clear favorite. We hear this from the pundits in the press, we see it in the InTrade odds, and various predictive models built around the polling averages tell us this.”

Yes, that is the meme of the minute, but it is a lie, for Obama is going to lose in a landslide, the LSM and dems know it.

How do I know? Simple, their inside polls which reveal the truth, points to a Obama disaster come election night.

Nappy as head of Homeland Security, has emergency ordered many millions dollars worth of riot gear which must be in place before the election. Why? She and they know that conservatives are not going to go on a riot rampage if Romney loses. But, she and they also know when Obama loses, all the lefty trash and Holder’s people are going to go berserker.

Or, far fetched maybe, Obama just may refuse to step down, declare martial law and impose a dictatorship.


10 posted on 08/08/2012 2:11:06 PM PDT by Sea Parrot (Once I was young, now I am old and the in between went way too fast)
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“Oh, Obama is hated enough that Romney will win with out the base this time. That is the key....he will not win a second term because by then the dems will give their people someone to vote for and we will still have someone the base can not stand....great thinking.”

My worst fears realized. Plus, IF Romney wins, during the 2014 election the GOP will lose major seats in the House and Senate which will make the situation even worse.

We would be much better off to make conservative gains in the House and Senate this fall, but for Romney to lose. Then our gains would increase in 2014. So, in 2016 we can finally get a conservative the base will support and repair damage done by 8 years of the Obamination. Also, especially after 2014, the congress WILL hold Obama in check. IF he keeps up his urinating on the COTUS...he will be impeached and convicted. I would LOVE to see that happen. That would be much sweeter than a lousy Romney victory - which IS NOT a victory for those of us that are conservative.


11 posted on 08/08/2012 2:16:52 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: IbJensen

“Romney had better get busy and start acting like a conservative in order to differentiate himself from the current denizen of the White Hut.”

Appropriate that you said “acting.” Because with Romney it would be acting. He has never been conservative, and shows no sign of ever going that direction.

I wished we could get all “conservative” members of the GOP to hold an alternative convention in defiance of the RNC and the establishment that gave up Romney.


12 posted on 08/08/2012 2:22:55 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas

The country won’t make it to 2016 intact with a second Obama term...and even supermajorities in the House and Senate will be irrelevant because the first black President will rule by fiat regardless of any votes taken by Congress and regardless of what the Constitution says. He will be an elected, defacto, dictator.


13 posted on 08/08/2012 2:23:49 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Sola Veritas

If Romney loses, Not only does Holder stay, Hillary stays, 2 more radical communist judges are likely to be appointed. May not even be any more elections after that, so we won’t have to worry about how good or not-so-good our candidate is.


14 posted on 08/08/2012 2:26:41 PM PDT by Quickgun (Second Amendment. The only one you can put your hands on.)
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To: Sea Parrot

“Or, far fetched maybe, Obama just may refuse to step down, declare martial law and impose a dictatorship.”

The military would NEVER follow such a directive....I can be 100% certain of that.


15 posted on 08/08/2012 2:28:51 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Scott from the Left Coast

“The country won’t make it to 2016 intact with a second Obama term...and even supermajorities in the House and Senate will be irrelevant because the first black President will rule by fiat regardless of any votes taken by Congress and regardless of what the Constitution says. He will be an elected, defacto, dictator.”

Please seek professional psychiatric help. You are delusional to the point of being scary....I am not being sarcastic. The union WILL NOT be destroyed as you suggest. IF Obama keeps ignoring the COTUS he will be impeached and convicted.

Also, what does his being “black” have to do with anything? He is just evil because he is evil...not because he is “black.” That kind of (could be easily interpreted as racist) rhetoric needs to cease. Obama is evil with evil policies....that covers it enough. Please leave race out of things...that is for liberals to spout that kind of talk.


16 posted on 08/08/2012 2:37:06 PM PDT by Sola Veritas (Trying to speak truth - not always with the best grammar or spelling)
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To: Sola Veritas
Also, what does his being “black” have to do with anything?

It has almost everything to do with it. The guy gets away with murder, literally. If he were a white Democrat (never mind a white Repub) his approval would be in the low 30s and would be a laughing stock.

But because he is black, the media is in overdrive to protect the first black president. And the squishy Republicans are afraid of being called a racist, hence they also let him get away with things which a white Democrat would not even dare.
17 posted on 08/08/2012 2:45:45 PM PDT by nhwingut (Sarah Palin 12... No One Else)
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To: Lady Heron; Lakeshark
Oh, Obama is hated enough that Romney will win with out the base this time.

Don't be silly. Self identified conservatives are at least forty percent of the electorate, and the self identified independents, aka unaffiliated, are not far behind them.

That is the key....he will not win a second term because by then the dems will give their people someone to vote for and we will still have someone the base can not stand....great thinking.

How are the rats going to get back all those working class whites that they have truly alienated with their energy and environmental policies? Those are bread and butter issues. They want to close down the coal industry and block drilling and fracking for gas and oil in the name of Gaia. They are writing off a huge chunk of their former base.

As I have written elsewhere on this forum

I’m not that sure that Romney was that liberal or just a pol blowing in MA’s wind. IIRC, Mark Kirk moved to the right after he was elected to the Senate from Illinois. He was one of the biggest RINOs in the House from a northern Chicago suburb. Gillibrand from upstate NY went from moderate rat sleeping with rifles under her bed to one of the most hard left members of the Senate.

Romney was my last pick for the nominee. If he governs from the left, he can be primaried. The Tea Party spirit isn’t going away.


18 posted on 08/08/2012 2:46:08 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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To: Sea Parrot

.....And bring the reality of revolution a lot more closer.


19 posted on 08/08/2012 3:44:00 PM PDT by Biggirl ("Jesus talked to us as individuals"-Jim Vicevich/Thanks JimV!)
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To: Sola Veritas
“Oh, Obama is hated enough that Romney will win with out the base this time. That is the key....he will not win a second term because by then the dems will give their people someone to vote for and we will still have someone the base can not stand....great thinking.”

My worst fears realized. Plus, IF Romney wins, during the 2014 election the GOP will lose major seats in the House and Senate which will make the situation even worse.

Stop worrying and recall that redistricting was done in a way that almost insures that we don't lose the House. The rats are defendinding at least 23 seats in the Senate this year and 20 seatsin 2014, IIRC.

We would be better off to make conservative gains in the House and Senate this fall, but for Romney to lose. Then our gains would increase in 2014. So, in 2016 we can finally get a conservative the base will support and repair damage done by 8 years of the Obamination. Also, especially after 2014, the congress WILL hold Obama in check. IF he keeps up his urinating on the COTUS...he will be impeached and convicted. I would LOVE to see that happen.

So you would be happy with two more Justices like Sotomayor and Kagan? Romney governed like a liberal in MA. We don't know how he will govern in the White House. He's campaigned in 2008 and 2012 as a conservative to a very different population than MA's population. When an electorate changes, don't be surprised if the politician changes. Check Mark Kirk from Illinois in the House and the Senate. Ditto Kirstin(sp?) Gillibrand from NY.

You need two thirds vote to convict in the Senate. Impeaching Clinton made him more popular. We could have impeached Holder and made rats defend Holder while they campaigned to retain their seats in the Senate. Forget about impeaching rats unless we have more than the two thirds needed to convict. The rats have no honor.

The People v. The Democratic Party

20 posted on 08/08/2012 3:47:20 PM PDT by neverdem (Xin loi minh oi)
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