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Was Al Franken elected by 1000 felons?
New York Post ^ | 08/09/2012 | Abby W. Schachter

Posted on 08/09/2012 1:37:35 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

As Byron York notes in his explosive column , opponents of voter ID laws like to argue its a solution in search of a problem.

But when 1100 felons vote in a tight election and the result was decided by just 312 votes, maybe there really is a problem with voter fraud.

And that's just what happened in Minnesota in 2008, when Democrat Al Franken beat Republican Norm Coleman by 312 votes, giving a filibuster-proof majority to the Democrats so they could end up passing Obamacare.

The Minnesota Senate result was contested by Franken and an army of lawyers who ended up litigating a win. Now, because of the work of a group Minnesota Majority and reported by John Fund and Hans von Spasky in their new book "Who's Counting," it seems Franken's victory may be based on inelligible voting by convicted criminals.

"Minnesota Majority began to look into claims of voter fraud. Comparing criminal records with voting rolls, the group identified 1,099 felons -- all ineligible to vote -- who had voted in the Franken-Coleman race," York writes.

"Minnesota Majority took the information to prosecutors across the state, many of whom showed no interest in pursuing it. But Minnesota law requires authorities to investigate such leads. And so far, Fund and von Spakovsky report, 177 people have been convicted -- not just accused, but convicted -- of voting fraudulently in the Senate race. Another 66 are awaiting trial. "The numbers aren't greater," the authors say, "because the standard for convicting someone of voter fraud in Minnesota is that they must have been both ineligible, and 'knowingly' voted unlawfully."

That means that at least 243 votes of the 312 margin of Franken's victory were fraudulent.

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Politics/Elections; US: Minnesota
KEYWORDS: 112th; alfranken; cultureofcorruption; felonsforfranken; felonvote; franken; fraud; voterfraud

1 posted on 08/09/2012 1:37:46 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
If they can prove enough ineligible voters voted, what is the remedy?
2 posted on 08/09/2012 1:43:58 PM PDT by Rumplemeyer (The GOP should stand its ground - and fix Bayonets)
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To: SeekAndFind

If millions of other morons hadn’t voted for him, 1000 felons wouldn’t have mattered.


3 posted on 08/09/2012 1:44:06 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring

You know when John Roberts handed down his infamous decision I immediately thought of this. This travesty is the Republicans fault. They just laid down and took this. It was so blatant even back then. And I am assuming the same thing happened in Nevada


4 posted on 08/09/2012 1:50:09 PM PDT by rocketmag
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To: SeekAndFind

Hells yeah squirrel.

Is Obama 1/2 black? Duh


5 posted on 08/09/2012 1:52:45 PM PDT by History Repeats (Drink plenty of TEA, but avoid the Koolaid.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Hardly the first!

B1 Bob lost to fraud votes from illegal aliens who used the ID of nursing home patients, the employers who’s lawns they mowed, etc.

Investigation proved it, but the ball-less “republican leadership” refused to act on it as they feared “Alienating the hispanic vote”!

The illegals and felons of the left KNOW from prior experience that there is virtually NO chance their illicit vote result will be overturned, or that they will be punished if caught.


6 posted on 08/09/2012 1:53:14 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: DuncanWaring

RE: If millions of other morons hadn’t voted for him, 1000 felons wouldn’t have mattered.

___________________________

BTW, Remember a guy named Al Greene?

He was the accidental Democrat senate candidate in 2010 for North Carolina challenging Jim DeMint.

The thing about Greene was this -— He did not attend the state Democratic party convention, did not file legally required forms with the Secretary of the Senate or Federal Election Commission, and attempted to pay his $10,400 filing fee with a personal check, rather than a check from a campaign account.

THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT EVEN SUPPORT HIM AND SIMPLY GAVE UP THE SOUTH CAROLINA SEAT.

Jim DeMint did not even campaign and nobody took Al Greene seriously or even gave him a chance.

The final tally in 2010 -— DeMint 62%, Greene 28% with most of the remaining votes going to the Green Party of South Carolina.

In other words, close to 330,000 South Carolinians voted for Greene.

That’s a HUGE number for my taste.


7 posted on 08/09/2012 1:57:54 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind
I spent eleven winters in Minnesnowta during my younger years. (Yes, folks there do have years, but the heavy duty measure of time is winters.) I never wholly accommodated myself to the prevailing self-described "liberalism," but still miss people's friendliness and frankness, the plain old-fashioned honesty that seemed ordinary and abundant as air.

It's depressing to see Minnesnowta has turned its back on its best qualities and chosen the Chicago way.

8 posted on 08/09/2012 1:58:06 PM PDT by Standing Wolf
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To: DuncanWaring

RE: If millions of other morons hadn’t voted for him, 1000 felons wouldn’t have mattered.

___________________________

BTW, Remember a guy named Al Greene?

He was the accidental Democrat senate candidate in 2010 for South Carolina challenging Jim DeMint.

The thing about Greene was this -— He did not attend the state Democratic party convention, did not file legally required forms with the Secretary of the Senate or Federal Election Commission, and attempted to pay his $10,400 filing fee with a personal check, rather than a check from a campaign account.

THE DEMOCRATS DID NOT EVEN SUPPORT HIM AND SIMPLY GAVE UP THE SOUTH CAROLINA SEAT.

Jim DeMint did not even campaign and nobody took Al Greene seriously or even gave him a chance.

The final tally in 2010 -— DeMint 62%, Greene 28% with most of the remaining votes going to the Green Party of South Carolina.

In other words, close to 330,000 South Carolinians voted for Greene.

That’s a HUGE number for my taste.


9 posted on 08/09/2012 1:58:14 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: SeekAndFind

Would the Dems engage in election fraud if it didn’t change the outcome? Of course the felons voting changed teh election.


10 posted on 08/09/2012 2:03:32 PM PDT by Pollster1 (Freedom is never more than one generation away from extinction. - Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind

It aooears he was, but the dems make no efforts to hide it. They`re backslapping each other over having gotten away with it. And they`re daring us us to stop them.


11 posted on 08/09/2012 2:07:29 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Buying Drain-O requires photo I.D... yet voting doesn't???)
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To: Loyal Sedition; SeekAndFind
B-1 Bob, Coleman and dozens of others have been soundly defeated by voter fraud. If you remember the Soros effort, say 15 years ago to elect lefty, slimy Attorney's Generals in all states? THAT is the effort that the left does. They put into place the folks that COUNT the vote, so as not to have any challenge. Well, that worked, now didn't it.

This is why I do NOT want Pawlenty - he sat back and let that Al Franken thing just slide right by. We're next door to Minnesota and we like many were sickened to death that the election was challenged, then stolen. Kept counting, finding new lefty votes. Voila - Geesh, shazam Franken wins.

I am so sick of the Republicans for giving in, not fighting, not caring enough. Sick to death of the McCains, Boehners, Hatch and even Cantor who sides where the wind blows. THIS is why you see thousands go to ChickFilA, this is why you see thousands at a T.E.A. Party event. We are the backbone of this country, play by the rules and we are sick to death of getting pounded in the ground.

If we don't get Romney in office and Obama OUT in November this country is dead, I'm afraid. My 95 year old aunt IS in an assisted living home in Florida - her mind is sharp as a tack. Says every election - folks come in to help us vote - well she tells them to take a flying leap. Disgusting.

And for the voter ID - it all is part of the grand plan to keep fraud on the front burner. The only way libs win is to cheat. Ask Nixon about the JFK/Nixon race. oh wait... Old Joe Kennedy bought that election plus LBJ had funny business going on in TX. And the GOP? We just sit back and do nothing. Disgusting.

12 posted on 08/09/2012 2:36:27 PM PDT by WaterWeWaitinFor (Can we still nominate someone else at the GOP convention? HHMM? Can we?)
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To: Rumplemeyer

“If they can prove enough ineligible voters voted, what is the remedy? “

Win the Senate, goad him into doing or saying something stupid, then telling the people of Minnesota to get rid of him. After he is censured of course.

Play dirty.


13 posted on 08/09/2012 2:51:05 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (ABO 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

felons are well-loved by MN state officials:

“Felon Lands State Job With Access to Confidential Records”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2705547/posts

“Man Who Pleaded Guilty On Drug Charge Gets To Vote (MN Activist Judge)”

Twenty-four-year-old Javontez Lavel Ross pleaded guilty Thursday to possessing several bags of suspected heroin with intent to sell. But he asked Ramsey County District Judge Margaret Marrinan to postpone his sentencing so he could vote in the Nov. 4 election......... The judge granted his request, calling the contest a “historic election.”
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2080935/posts


14 posted on 08/09/2012 3:00:06 PM PDT by TurboZamboni (Looting the future to bribe the present)
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To: Rumplemeyer

> Was Al Franken elected by 1000 felons?

At least.


15 posted on 08/09/2012 3:13:18 PM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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16 posted on 08/09/2012 3:17:29 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Loyal Sedition
...ball-less “republican leadership”...

It's a game of mutually assured destruction. Neither side will go first.

They're all crooks in need of exposure and justice.

17 posted on 08/09/2012 3:30:45 PM PDT by stboz
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To: rocketmag

Most all these “caves” are the fault of yellow bellied, no-nutz pubbies who love to “go along to get along” just to put food on their own greedy tables.

During the Revolution, they were called Loyalists, and they were tarred, feathered and had their houses burnt to the ground.

These types have been around to bedevil good people, since the beginning of time.

Ratz are what ratz are. They look you in the face and hisss their hatred of you. Rinos on the other hand smile at you, shake your hand, tell you they understand everything and they support you and back you; and at the last minute they jam the knife into your back, up to the hilt. (A guy named Roberts comes to mind.)

And they then try to explain to you that they “knew better what was good for you” and did it all “for your own good.” (peon, pleb, unwashed ignoramus....)

Don’t focus on the ratz, they are the minority and they will always be there. Focus on the fungus in your own house. It goes by the name RINO. Purge chase out that fungus and the ratz will fall by their own weight.

Tea Party...know the REAL enemy.


18 posted on 08/09/2012 3:36:53 PM PDT by ConradofMontferrat (According to mudslimze, my handle is a Hate Crime. Hope they don't like it.)
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To: Rumplemeyer
There is no remedy or justice left in America today... not for anyone other than those that worship at the feet of satan.

LLS

19 posted on 08/09/2012 3:47:06 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: SeekAndFind
Oh and the republican that was governor and never even thought about challenging any of this... is likely to become the gop VP candidate... meanwhile obama surges and evil grows in power.

LLS

20 posted on 08/09/2012 3:49:16 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer (Don't Tread On Me)
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To: SeekAndFind

The OP links this issue to voter ID laws, but I don’t see the connection. Michael Milken is a felon and thus ineligible to vote in some states, but he really is Michael Milken and can probably produce photo ID.


21 posted on 08/09/2012 4:15:02 PM PDT by Eagle Forgotten
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To: stboz
Public service has become,

Public,.... Serve Us!

22 posted on 08/09/2012 6:02:00 PM PDT by rawcatslyentist ("Behold, I am against you, O arrogant one," Jeremiah 50:31)
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To: rawcatslyentist

If Franken was indeed elected that way, those “voters” are NOW felons. There is now way you can convience me he got legally elected.


23 posted on 08/10/2012 4:27:27 AM PDT by DaveA37
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