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Zimmerman Prosecutors In Huge Screw-Up(FL)
thesmokinggun.com ^ | 9 August, 2012 | NA

Posted on 08/10/2012 7:31:01 AM PDT by marktwain

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To: wtc911
No harm intended, I get tired of using the same words over and over again, so I try using synonyms.

LOL, maybe not in cold blood but I was watching that movie the night before last and the words stuck in my head. I was reading about his meds and he takes a lot ... uppers and downers. The warnings and side effects are unreal. The Adderall was a fairly recent addition. Was he still in the adjustment stage? What side effects was he experiencing?

He definitely overreacts to situations. This is the guy who chased a woman because he thought she spit on him ... and called the police to report she was driving erratically. The woman was scared sh!tless. This is the guy who called the police to report a 4-year-old playing in the street instead of talking to the child's mother. There's something not right about him.


The Rockaways

81 posted on 08/20/2012 11:30:15 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Uncle Chip

How was George screaming for help if Trayvon had his two hands over Geroge’s mouth?


82 posted on 08/20/2012 11:33:18 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: MHGinTN

Well, thank you for your kind thoughts. I shall pray for you.


83 posted on 08/20/2012 11:34:54 AM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
He was moving his head and pushing them away and squiggling around on the ground.

The prosecution has already admitted that TM had his hands over GZ's mouth. That is no longer a matter of dispute.

84 posted on 08/20/2012 11:41:39 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Beach_Babe

I doubt your gods of sand and sun and tanning lotion will hear you.


85 posted on 08/20/2012 1:36:32 PM PDT by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: Uncle Chip
The prosecution has already admitted that TM had his hands over GZ's mouth.

WHAT???

I must have missed that part of the trial.

Ninja Trayvon slammed Zimmerman's head onto the concrete over and over again causing two wittle owies . . . at the same time he put his hand over Zimmerman's mouth and nose . . . at the same time he was punching Zimmerman's face . . . at the same time he reached for Zimmerman's gun . . . ???

How did Trayvon apply such a VICIOUS SAVAGE BEATING to Zimmerman with only an abrasion on one finger?

Why wouldn't Trayvon have some of Zimmerman's DNA or blood on him? I know, I know . . . the rain washed every itty-bitty speck of it away. That fickle rain . . . it didn't wash Zimmerman's blood from his head.

Where was this all happening . . . at the "T" . . . 10 feet from the "T" . . . or 50 feet from the "T"???

Meanwhile, Zimmerman did not fight or attempt to defend himself in any way, shape, or form . . . until pulling his the gun? He just laid there like a limp rag doll being pummeled . . . until he decided to pull out his the gun and shoot?

That just doesn't sound plausible to me. The fact that Zimmerman's credibility has been shown to be less than stellar also comes into play.

Hey, are you posting over at Justice Quest as Stormbringer? He sounds a lot like you.

86 posted on 08/20/2012 2:44:58 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: MHGinTN

Catty, aren’t you?


87 posted on 08/20/2012 2:47:36 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
When BDLR was questioning Zimmerman senior.

As Zimmerman was trying to get up or lift his head up TM would have been shoving it back down.

The blood was running down his throat and toward the back of the head.

He was cleaned up at the scene by paramedics.

He was shifting around on the ground to try to get TM off of him.

There are Uncle Chips in many places.

88 posted on 08/20/2012 3:05:14 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
The prosecution has already admitted that TM had his hands over GZ's mouth.


I don't think so . . .

They returned as the audio was played again, this time for Zimmerman’s father, who testified that he believed the screaming to be from his son, after listening to the audio “in headphones” after not hearing it clearly, and then hearing it again at the state attorney’s office.

Asked by De La Rionda if he had heard his son scream like that before, Robert Zimmerman said “lots of times,” prompting muffled laughter in the courtroom. De La Rionda also asked whether he was aware of George Zimmerman’s claims that Martin had his hands over Zimmerman’s nose and mouth, and whether that would be consistent with Zimmerman being able to scream out – a rare glimpse into the case prosecutors plan to put on when the case goes to trial.

“I think my son’s injuries show Trayvon Martin didn’t just have his hands on his mouth,” Robert Zimmerman said.


89 posted on 08/20/2012 6:08:57 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
Post the exact words of the question that BDLR asked which elicited this answer:

“I think my son’s injuries show Trayvon Martin didn’t just have his hands on his mouth,” Robert Zimmerman said.

And you have your admission.

I'll give you a hint:

"How could he scream [if or when] Trayvon Martin had his hands over his mouth."

Thank You, BDLR.

90 posted on 08/20/2012 6:37:02 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip
I have no intention of doing your homework, you post the exact words . . .

"How could he scream [if or when] Trayvon Martin had his hands over his mouth."

That's a setup . . . about the screams, about the hands-on-mouth theory, or about both. Time will tell . . .

Thank You, BDLR.

91 posted on 08/20/2012 6:52:26 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe

There was no testimony or evidence that Trayvon Martin had his hands over Zimmerman’s mouth until BDLR volunteered the information in his question which is now part of the court record.


92 posted on 08/20/2012 7:16:24 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Beach_Babe

So obviously, Trayvon was trying to suffocate Zimmerman with deadly force and Zimmerman defended himself with deadly force.

Time for civil charges to be leveled against the Martin household for their defamation of character of Zimmerman.


93 posted on 08/20/2012 7:35:06 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Although O’Mara tried to turn the bond hearing into a mini-trial ... it was only a bond hearing. Too bad O’Mara waived Zimmerman’s right to a speedy trial .. .. we might have a long wait for the real thing.


94 posted on 08/20/2012 8:14:29 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Cvengr

Not so obviously, but thank you for your attempt to add to the conversation.


95 posted on 08/20/2012 8:17:12 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe
it was only a bond hearing

Yeh -- a bond hearing with testimony and evidence on record.

96 posted on 08/20/2012 8:19:29 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

We got Robert Zimmerman’s opinion. Great.

The defense has a hearing on Friday. They are trying to keep Zimmerman’s medical records sealed. Why?

Adderall was recently added to Zimmerman’s cocktail of drugs. Why?

Finding the right drug therapy and dosage for a patient typically requires cooperation, time, experimentation and patience. What kind of problems was Zimmerman having with his old ADHD meds?

There are PLENTY of people who have made a ‘hobby’ of this case. There are tons of blogs with maps, timers, the actual evidence, etc. The vast majority of them have concluded that Zimmerman’s tall tales are just that . . . made up, impossible nonsense that couldn’t have possibly happened the way he describes . . . in any of the differing versions you can think of.

Just curious . . . what do you think set Trayvon off that night that made him want to kill the stranger he had ran away from? Det. Serino couldn’t figure it out, George had no explanations. What do you think did it?

Trayvon had every right to be afraid of George … dressed like a Latin King … and dogging behind him in the dark. There is no way Trayvon would have turned around to confront a thug looking like a gang member.

Too bad George didn’t see Trayvon walking alone, introduce himself and say, “I just want to make sure you get home safely, young man.”

George has a depraved mind, his supporters are doing and saying things from his prospective. They are acting from the prospective of an individual with a depraved mind. They don’t view Trayvon as a teenager just returning for a short walk to the store.

Seems like George’s poor judgement and lack of credibility rubs off on his defenders. He is dragging a lot of others down into the muck with him.


97 posted on 08/20/2012 8:54:06 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Beach_Babe

Get a grip — you need some Adderal to help collect your thoughts.


98 posted on 08/20/2012 9:04:11 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

This is interesting:

Is ADHD associated with other disorders?

Yes. In fact, symptoms like those of ADHD are often mistaken for or found occurring with other neurological, biological and behavioral disorders.

Oppositional defiant disorder. Nearly half of all children with ADHD (especially boys) tend to also have oppositional defiant disorder, characterized by negative, hostile and defiant behavior.

Conduct disorder. Conduct disorder (marked by aggression towards people and animals, destruction of property, deceitfulness or theft and serious rule-breaking) is found to co-occur in an estimated 40 percent of children with ADHD.

Anxiety and depression. Approximately one-fourth of children with ADHD (mostly younger children and boys) also experience anxiety and depression.

Communication/learning disability. At least 25 percent of children with ADHD have some type of communication/learning disability.

Tourette’s syndrome. There is additionally a correlation between Tourette’s syndrome, a neurobiological disorder characterized by motor and vocal tics and ADHD—a small percentage of those with ADHD also have Tourette’s, but at least half of those with Tourette’s also have ADHD.

Bipolar disorder. Research is also beginning to show that ADHD-like symptoms are sometimes actually manifestations of childhood-onset bipolar disorder.

http://www.nami.org/Template.cfm?Sec...ontentID=23047


99 posted on 08/20/2012 9:08:17 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: marktwain

Mr. Zimmerman is a political prisoner. The prosecutor is another Mike Nifong. Hopefully, she will end up like Mike; disbarred and bankrupt.


100 posted on 08/20/2012 9:16:03 PM PDT by SUSSA
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