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Afghan policeman guns 10 of his fellow officers, a day after Afghan gunmen kill 6 US soldiers[3USMC]
Washington Post ^ | Aug 10 | Updated: August 11, 1:12 PM | Associated Press

Posted on 08/11/2012 3:05:27 PM PDT by huldah1776

KABUL, Afghanistan — An Afghan police officer killed at least 10 of his fellow officers on Saturday, a day after six U.S. service members were gunned down by their Afghan partners in summer violence that has both international and Afghan forces questioning who is friend or foe.

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A day earlier, two Afghans shot and killed six American service members Friday in neighboring Helmand province in the south where insurgents have wielded their greatest influence.

In the first attack, an Afghan police officer shot and killed three Marines after sharing a pre-dawn meal with them in the volatile Sangin district, according to Afghan officials.

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Never forget. Will the ROE change? Will the mission change? Will the medical helos be able to go into a battle zone because they are escorted by another armed helo?
1 posted on 08/11/2012 3:05:40 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

Get out! Get ou! Get out!

By staying in that shithole we are only uping the body count and not changing anything. This isn’t nation building - this is stupid.


2 posted on 08/11/2012 3:09:50 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: huldah1776

We need to get the hell out of there.


3 posted on 08/11/2012 3:10:21 PM PDT by Anti-Bubba182
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To: huldah1776

Lots of this stuff.

http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2012/08/11/in-the-fold-two/

Slightly older:

http://junipersec.wordpress.com/2011/11/19/home-in-the-fold/

Same massive flowershover.

Anyone trusting islamics is insane.


4 posted on 08/11/2012 3:27:06 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: Anti-Bubba182

Good men are dying for no good cause.

It’s time to bring this brutal folly to a swift end.


5 posted on 08/11/2012 3:27:21 PM PDT by mojito
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To: huldah1776

These people are not to be trusted.

Get out and let them go back to killing each other and beating their wives.


6 posted on 08/11/2012 3:30:12 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: huldah1776

Just Nuke the whole crap hole over their glaze the desert then build a giant wal-mart.


7 posted on 08/11/2012 3:33:38 PM PDT by bikerman (Obama lied,economy died.)
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To: bikerman

I agree. Nuke it from orbit. Only way to be sure.


8 posted on 08/11/2012 3:36:41 PM PDT by Zebra
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To: huldah1776

Our mission was to stop Al Qaida by obliterating its bases in Afghanistan. This morphed into nation building, which will never, ever work in Muslim nations.

All Middle Eastern Muslim power structures devolve to the tribal, and it matters not whether the leader at the pinnacle of that structure is a tyrannical dictator or a king. Personal power is the only power that matters and personal power is a zero sum game. No one can trust anyone else. The only rule that counts is that the one with the most power.

So, whether it is pirates or terrorists, we deal with both exactly the same. We deal harshly with them when we catch ‘em; a trial by military tribunal and an immediate hanging afterwards.

As to those nations harboring terrorists and pirates, we deal harshly, too. They will be punished until it hurts so much that they literally kill any remaining terrorists and pirates themselves.

No nation building!


9 posted on 08/11/2012 3:37:23 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll
By staying in that shithole we are only uping the body count and not changing anything.

You beat me to it! We're sacrificing our most precious resource - the young men & women of this nation......for NOTHING!

Get out and let the 7th century barbarians kill themselves!

10 posted on 08/11/2012 3:40:26 PM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: huldah1776

The whole Islamic Democracy thing is going really well, isn’t it. Another fifty years, and maybe they will stop killing us for helping them.


11 posted on 08/11/2012 3:45:23 PM PDT by pallis
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To: SatinDoll
This morphed into nation building We had not choice. The Taliban/Al Qaeda WAS their government and social structure. When we took them out we HAD to leave something in its place.
12 posted on 08/11/2012 3:49:37 PM PDT by vet7279
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“This morphed into nation building We had not choice. The Taliban/Al Qaeda WAS their government and social structure. When we took them out we HAD to leave something in its place.”

Hello? The Taliban are still there and they arn’t going away. The Afghans are who they are, a tribal people, and there is no way to force another, alien system on them.

Mostly importantly, it isn’t the responsibility of the U.S.A. to leave anything for those people. One thing we should definitely do for ourselves is burn the poppy fields - destroy the source of so much human suffering. Have you noticed? That hasn’t been done.


13 posted on 08/11/2012 3:57:53 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

I’ve read through most of the posts and the over-whelming response is “Get out.” I’m all for that — but we’re not out yet and I got a daughter going soon for a year?

I’m concerned for her. Should I be REALLY concerned? What are the numbers for troops that return safely?


14 posted on 08/11/2012 4:01:18 PM PDT by proparapi
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To: huldah1776
Nice to know that when Panetta went there our Soldiers were disarmed before being let in the room to hear him speak.

The world is upside down.

15 posted on 08/11/2012 4:03:01 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: huldah1776

That whole country deserves to be made into molten glass.


16 posted on 08/11/2012 4:03:39 PM PDT by Mike Darancette (Obamaid has to go.)
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To: SatinDoll

The Poppy fields is why the US is there, not “nation building”. New record crops each year. Islamics as transporters/enforcers.

Know your hidden history ;).


17 posted on 08/11/2012 4:06:15 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: Kickass Conservative
Oh, c'mon, it ain't rocket science.

Disarming was done to insure that NO armed Afghans were around him.....US troops were not feared.

But they were included in ban to placate the locals.

18 posted on 08/11/2012 4:08:28 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: Anti-Bubba182
Carpet bomb the place and kill anything that moves, that would be the right thing to do.

The Afghans are a bunch of treacherous subhumans, good for nothing but causing trouble.

Sometimes, genocide is the only morally correct solution.

Losing more Americans for no reason is not an answer.

The Afghans and the Taliban know we are leaving and are now going to start slaughtering our people wholesale, without fear of retribution.

19 posted on 08/11/2012 4:10:11 PM PDT by Rome2000 (WILLARD ROMNEY -- MORMON MELCHIDEZEK BISHOP -HIS FAMILY HAS AVOIDED MILITARY SERVICE FOR GENERATIONS)
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To: Anti-Bubba182
We need to leave a parting gift in Afghanistan in honor of our brave men and women who gave their lives there.


20 posted on 08/11/2012 4:13:31 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: diogenes ghost

Was the same policy in place when Rumsfeld went there?

Just asking...


21 posted on 08/11/2012 4:16:45 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Republicans Hope people are Smart, but Democrats Know people are Stupid.)
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To: Hardraade

Gosh! Did I really need a /sarc tag?


22 posted on 08/11/2012 4:20:07 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
Like that weather forecast for Kabul that made the rounds on 9/12 .... Partly cloudy to brilliantly sunny, temps to 3,000,000 o, winds variable to 800 mph.
23 posted on 08/11/2012 4:23:51 PM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: huldah1776

Bomb ‘em back to the tenth century......oh, wait, they’re there already.


24 posted on 08/11/2012 4:58:51 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: Kickass Conservative
Not sure about Rumsfeld, but the problem was not as bad then, as far fewer Afghans were "trained up".

Believe me, Panetta and US brass do NOT worry about US troops "fragging" their civilian leaders.

25 posted on 08/11/2012 5:26:51 PM PDT by diogenes ghost
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To: SatinDoll

They aren’t allowed. This was a big deal when my husband was there. We were actually just talking about it today. The poppy fields were off-limits. They were not to be damaged.


26 posted on 08/11/2012 5:55:31 PM PDT by USMCWife6869
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To: huldah1776

WTF are we still doing there?

I thought that this country voted for Obama in 2008 because they disliked GWB so much for getting us in the Afghan mess.

When I think of Afghanistan I see precious American blood being spilled in a black hole for a bunch of mooselimbs who hate us.


27 posted on 08/11/2012 5:59:34 PM PDT by 353FMG
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We need those poppy fields....

There's going to be a lot of 'pain pills' needed when Obamacare and the death panels go full-force. /s

28 posted on 08/11/2012 6:02:49 PM PDT by thescourged1
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To: huldah1776

But were any Qurans burnt by Americans? Cause that would cause Hamid Karzai to demand someone be prosecuted.


29 posted on 08/11/2012 6:04:01 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (If Barack has a memory like a steel trap, why can't he remember what the Constitution says?)
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To: USMCWife6869

Was anyone told why?


30 posted on 08/11/2012 6:05:18 PM PDT by SatinDoll (NATURAL BORN CITZEN: BORN IN THE USA OF CITIZEN PARENTS.)
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To: SatinDoll

Including my friend’s son.... about two months ago. He and other US soldiers were walking with three Afghan police trainees and the Afghani’s turned and shot 8. His son was killed and many wounded. I agree ...get out!


31 posted on 08/11/2012 6:06:09 PM PDT by Conservateacher
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"Afghan policeman guns 10 of his fellow officers, a day after Afghan gunmen kill 6 US soldiers[3USMC]"

What's the purpose of identifying 3 of the troops were Marines? Are they somehow more deserving of mourning than the other 3, whatever their branches of service?

32 posted on 08/11/2012 6:13:54 PM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: Hardraade

<>The Poppy fields is why the US is there, not “nation building”.<>

Poppy fields and the $7.6 billion Trans-Afghanistan Pipeline:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trans-Afghanistan_Pipeline

The deal being worked out is: We won’t mess with your poppy fields, if you don’t mess with our pipeline.


33 posted on 08/11/2012 6:37:05 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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34 posted on 08/11/2012 7:03:57 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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Marines are not soldiers. It’s a Marine thing. My brother was a soldier who died in Nam. It has nothing to do with not honoring their deaths. Not acknowledging their loss is disrespectful.

The DOD has not released the information on them yet. They could all be Marines, and then the media will be able to use the correct title.


35 posted on 08/11/2012 7:33:58 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

“Happy Ramadan! Come; break your fast with some sweetmeats and bullets!”


36 posted on 08/11/2012 9:08:21 PM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Hardraade

“New record crops”

Actually, the poppy crop was only 10% of normal in the area I work, an area mention in the article.


37 posted on 08/11/2012 9:09:06 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Puckster

Sonds weird. The stats have had the crops on a steep upward curve ever since US involvement.


38 posted on 08/11/2012 9:18:51 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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To: Hardraade

I am, mind you, offering insight of a local area, not sure about the rest of the area, however, the wx causing the 10% wasn’t all that local.

Dunno, about other sources, but, I do know this.


39 posted on 08/11/2012 9:25:56 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: huldah1776

How are Marines NOT soldiers?


40 posted on 08/11/2012 9:40:33 PM PDT by EnigmaticAnomaly ("Mantra of the left: 'It's only okay when WE do it.'")
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To: Puckster

oh. 2004, breaking all records.
2007, another record crop.
2008, bumper crop.
2011, Bumper crop (60% increase).

Someone is collecting their data *after* harvest, in the lean couple of months :).

You will, after each bumber crop, see one or two big captures - to show the govt is up on the task. Then everyone can be happily drugged out of their skull for the enxt year.


41 posted on 08/11/2012 10:31:40 PM PDT by Hardraade (http://junipersec.wordpress.com (Obama Kills))
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If it wasn’t for Levin, I wouldn’t have heard about the US soldiers killed.


42 posted on 08/11/2012 10:37:20 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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To: huldah1776
My son is an infantry platoon leader in eastern Afghanistan. He has 43 men and is responsible for 25 sq miles. He is basically the sheriff of that district.
His policy is that Afghans are assigned to his rifle squads, they are not allowed to have live rounds.
If they get into a firefight, mags will be allotted to them by the respective squad leaders, only after they have advanced forward of the US troops.
That may not be the official ROEs, but they are HIS ROEs.
He says he'll “shoot any bastard that points his weapon anywhere but down range in a NY minute". And has told his Squad leaders to do the same
43 posted on 08/11/2012 11:07:06 PM PDT by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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Well, you'll have to read all of my posts....we're talking about the 2012 harvest which, locally at least, was a bust, something I think is implied very well taking in the full context of my posts (plural).

Monies, from the meager poppy crop, for the Taliban for HME supplies has made IED’s very valuable here, so much so that they'll risk exposure recouping a compromised emplacement to their own decimation.

44 posted on 08/11/2012 11:50:25 PM PDT by Puckster
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To: Robe

Idiotic orders should be ignored. Your son is a good and courageous man. God protect him and his men.


45 posted on 08/11/2012 11:51:24 PM PDT by semaj
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To: EnigmaticAnomaly

Air, land, SEA. They are part of the Navy, not the Army, and it is important to them.


46 posted on 08/12/2012 3:59:54 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: huldah1776

I’ll bet the 6 officers were prevented from going to the meeting armed because it may have given the appearance of intimidation.


47 posted on 08/12/2012 4:05:18 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Kickass Conservative

No. This started with Petraeus in Iraq, trying to be Alexander the Great. I personally like the way God told the Israelites to go into the promised land, but that was because they were sacrificing their children by burning them alive. Kind of like abortion. The only legacy Afghanistan might have from the Greeks is their boy abuse and disregard for women.


48 posted on 08/12/2012 4:05:53 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Robe

He is very wise and tell him as a first deployment completed mom, I love him. :)


49 posted on 08/12/2012 4:09:37 AM PDT by huldah1776
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To: Gaffer

There were 2 separate incidents. The first 3 lost were Marine Corps special ops with another wounded. There are conflicting stories. No word from the DOD.


50 posted on 08/12/2012 4:14:07 AM PDT by huldah1776
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