Homosexual scout leaders ... what could possibly go wrong?
Posted on 08/12/2012 5:53:16 AM PDT by scottjewell
At least one state chapter of the Boy Scouts of America is not prepared to toe the line with the organization’s national ban on LGBTs joining the scouts
The Vermont Chapter of the Boy Scouts of America has reaffirmed its non-discriminatory stance allowing LGBTs to be scouts and scout masters in the face of the national organization’s continued refusal to allow LGBTs into the organization.
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If they keep quiet about it and behave themselves, no one will know that they are afflicted. They’ll be able to participate.
HOMOSEXUAL, because there’s nothing GAY about it.
Homosexual scout leaders ... what could possibly go wrong?
Ha, point well made. ;-)
The scouts may find their existence at an end after a few successful lawsuits for homosexual assault/molestation of children. The indoctrination is bad enough, but enabling direct recruitment to their ranks via unlimited access for molesting innocent children is an abomination.
I was stunned at seeing an old scout leader in a troop my son belonged to years and years ago come out in support of this. I always felt he was dodgy but his statement confirmed it. Either he or his son are both ways based on his statements. I never let my son go on camping trips alone with this troop, I went with him. OTOH, he's a boy scout leader now. My son had a choice before he crossed over into boy scouts and chose another leaders boy scout troop instead of this fellows. We agreed immediately it was the right decision and this fellow actually called and asked "why?".
We had personally witnessed his lack of responsibility for some kids on occasion and weren't willing to submit our child to his care in potentially unsupervised situations. Our impressions were spot on, apparently.
Funny thing: he also ran a football pool. Always ran out of spaces populated by fellow scout dads. Seemingly this year we have a week to go with only3 spots reserved. Guess the word did get out.
Just following our future leader:
Romney: The Boy Scouts should admit homosexuals
8/7/2012
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915967/posts
Thanks for that, Caipirabob. Compelling and interesting.
THEY WANT YOUR CHILDREN.
That’s what the whole thing is about with the perverts. Get it through your heads.
IT’S ABOUT THE CHILDREN. PERIOD
What is a Chapter? I mean OA Lodges have chapters, but the BSA organization is by region, area, council, district, and finally unit. So, again, what is a chapter? I didn’t click on the link so not sure what they mean - it is pretty simple. If the Scout Executive of the Council in question openly defies BSA policy, they can and should be fired. That is a lot of salary to give up. If it is a unit, chartered by a permissive chartering organization, then the local Council can revoke the charter and all affiliated units are disbanded. That does occasionally happen. By the way, I am a District Commissioner (not in Vermont) so I am kind of informed on the matter.
I believe national policy is that the scouts themselves can be openly gay, but that their leadership cannot. And “leadership” includes older scouts who would take on leadership roles within their troop. An openly gay scout will be denied such leadership roles.
BSA has been weeding out adult gay leaders forever, and will likely continue to do so, or the Boy Scouts will cease to exist, since the majority of parents will not send their young boys to a troop overseen by an overt homosexual.
However, their policy is to not discriminate against boys who want to be scouts, at least until they try to assume leadership positions. All in all, it’s a fair compromise, though compromise is probably a dirty word among leaders in the gay community.
Indeed, you sound very informed and are in a much better position to judge than I am. I did wonder what they meant by “chapter”; did they mean the entire state of Vermont? In any case, it sounds highly suspicious that they would be able to break with national policy set by BSA without repercussions, as you note.
I’d get my kid out of there, fast.
Forget it, Jake, it’s Vermont.
Though I am sure most predators who wish to gain access to scouts would lie about their orientation.....remember Sandusky is married to a woman.
>>Though I am sure most predators who wish to gain access to scouts would lie about their orientation...<<
Of course, which is why I used the phrase “weeding out.” As for the openly gay, I would no more send my son off on a camping trip with only an openly gay adult in charge, than I would send my daughter off on a camping trip with only a heterosexual male adult in charge. Doing either would be both irresponsible and asking for trouble, which is exactly why the Boy Scouts would wither and die as an organization should such a policy ever be implemented. Most parents wouldn’t stand for it and wouldn’t enroll their boys in the Boy Scouts.
Heterosexual males somehow seem to understand the impropriety of being the sole adult placed in charge of young girls overnight. Gays, some of them at any rate, seem not to understand the impropriety of being placed in a similar situation.
I also suspect many gay people see the impropriety in such a situation, but the militancy of their primary spokesmen keep them from voicing their opinions publicly. The militancy of many gays not only intimidates straight policymakers; it also intimidates that portion of the gay population that disagrees with the more radical parts of the gay leadership’s agenda.
In my son’s Troop, all of the Scout adult leaders have sons in the Troop, I would feel uneasy about having an adult leader who didn’t have his son in the Troop.
>>I would feel uneasy about having an adult leader who didn’t have his son in the Troop.<<
That’s understandable, especially if you’re new to scouting or unfamiliar with the program, but some adults start with sons in scouts and enjoy scouting so much that they continue in leadership or support roles after their sons are no longer in the troop (or pack, in the case of Cub Scouts.) Finding effective leadership for scouting programs, particularly in smaller towns, is often a challenge, and some continuity in leadership can make for a much more successful program.
Particularly at the summer camps, some of the best leaders no longer had boys of their own in scouts, but they loved teaching scouts how to fire a .22, shoot a bow and arrow, scale cliffs, etc. They’re natural teachers and love scouting and the kids really look up to them and appreciate their efforts to teach them skills.
Of course, this is exactly why it’s unwise to place a gay person in those very positions; scouts really look up to them and at that young age many would make easy targets for a predator. I’m not trying to imply that most gays are predators, but some are, just as are some heterosexuals, so it makes sense to have policies that discourage predation. Predators do tend to gravitate to places where their prey congregates.
True, I wouldn’t have a problem with someone whose son was an alumnus of the Troop. But just some outsider with no ties to any of the Scouts past or present would definitely raise a red flag....it’s the same with any coach of a youth team.....the coach of my daughter’s teams when she was younger had his daughter on the team.
They are welcome until the first Sandusky case emerges. The president of Penn State vowed to make that university the most gay friendly in the country when he came aboard 19 years ago.
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