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The ‘Lesser Of Two Evils’ Con-Game
Alt-Market ^ | 12 June 2012 | Brandon Smith

Posted on 08/12/2012 11:39:36 AM PDT by delacoert

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To: delacoert; scottjewell; ebb tide; Sirius Lee; lilycicero; MaryLou1; glock rocks; JPG; ...

Comments please. This is a critical discussion we will all have with our loved ones, friends and coworkers over the next few days. The Ron Paul crowd, the Libtardian Gary Johnson crowd, the purists of every stripe. What will we say?


41 posted on 08/12/2012 1:18:08 PM PDT by narses
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To: delacoert
The moral relativism of the “lesser of two evils” philosophy has been draining the heart and soul of America for decades.

So begins an intellectually vacuous screed with a simple misstatement of fact. "Lesser of two evils" is not and has never been an example of moral relativism. You may as well say that any mention of "the greater good" is also moral relativism. That would be an equivalently whacked-out judgement. An example of moral relativism is this: The Muslims don't eat pork, this other group doesn't eat human flesh. Each system has its own proscriptions that are valid within their systems but have no reference to any overarching moral order because there is none. One may or may not eat pork or long pork as one wishes. Its degree of evil is relative only to the system in which it is found. Do your own thing, baby.
42 posted on 08/12/2012 1:25:23 PM PDT by aruanan
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To: delacoert
The author sounds like the type of guy who REFUSE, ABSOLUTELY REFUSE I TELL YOU to get on the train unless he was promised clean restrooms and a hot shower when he got to the work camp. Why? BECAUSE HE IS A MAN OF PRINCIPLE AND WAY WAY MORE CONSERVATIVE THAN EVERYONE ELSE! Yup he'll show’em!
43 posted on 08/12/2012 1:25:43 PM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: bmwcyle
The lesser evil is still evil.

So is the greater evil. Make your choice.

44 posted on 08/12/2012 1:35:45 PM PDT by TwelveOfTwenty (Ho, ho, hey, hey, I'm BUYcotting Chick-Fil-A)
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To: delacoert
1. Blah blah blah

2.If you don't vote for Romney/Ryan, you're not a "Conservative", you're a traitor who supports four more years of the Marxist nightmare.

3. Don't ever get on your high horse and start calling people cowards: where were you during the last several wars?

4. See your doctor and get your meds changed before you burst something.

45 posted on 08/12/2012 1:37:20 PM PDT by Chainmail (Warfare is too serious to be left to the amateurs)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
So is the greater evil. Make your choice.
I am unconvinced that Romney is EVIL. Perfect? Not a chance, but EVIL? I don't think so.
46 posted on 08/12/2012 1:44:06 PM PDT by narses
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To: delacoert

“A refusal to vote, or a vote for a third party, is not a vote for Obama, or a vote for Romney, but a vote against the charade.”

Yes, ideally, it is a vote against the charade. But the charade will continue on as we split the vote.


47 posted on 08/12/2012 1:46:01 PM PDT by scottjewell
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To: aruanan
And you think Jesus is going to say, "Well done, good and faithful servant for refusing to take back the existing opposition party and, instead, throwing your vote to something that couldn't possibly defeat a known enemy because you thought being considered a more nearly "true" conservative party than any other was more important than actually conserving and preserving the Republic against an ongoing enemy onslaught"?

Good point. Jesus rolled up his sleeves, waded right into the opposing factions, and by His example and teachings, won many of them over.

One could easily equate today's leftist Republicans with the tax collectors, prostitutes, Roman occupiers, and Pharisees He lived among and preached to. Following His example of teaching and persuading will always bear far more fruit than refusing to engage the opposition.

In the long run, figuratively kicking the Republican party to the curb and supporting other, weaker alternative parties only advances the greater evil, which is the Democrat Party, the party led by the man who holds our Constitution and Rule of Law in absolute contempt and brazenly tramples both at every opportunity.

The Democrat party (a.k.a. Evil, Inc.) proudly institutionalizes and advances morally depraved behavior. The Democrat party and what it represents is the Greater of Two Evils.

48 posted on 08/12/2012 1:59:10 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: delacoert

I am convinced that 4 more years of Obama will push this country past the point if no return ... irreparable damage. But I think we’ve seen enough backlash and call for real change over the past 2 years to believe that we are heading a better direction thanks to true conservatives and groups like the tea party affecting the votes.

With that in mind, I believe that with a Republican in the white house and control of at least the house and bench (and hopefully Senate) we can get the country back on track.

That said ... Romney/Ryan get my vote this November, because if Obama wins, this country will not be recognizable by 2016.


49 posted on 08/12/2012 2:04:35 PM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: delacoert

I see the Left wing political stooge pretending to be “Conservative” while posting nonsensical trash talk of the GOP Candidate tactics are alive and well at Move-on.org.


50 posted on 08/12/2012 2:05:00 PM PDT by MNJohnnie (Giving more money to DC to fix the Debt is like giving free drugs to addicts think it will cure them)
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To: delacoert
"The lesser of two evils" is what illiterate people say when they are clueless as to the issues, the candidates bios, the candidates records and the ethereal pleasure of a dry martini. They don't really wish to discuss it.

With Obama we have a guy who despises and United States, the history of the United States and anything that points to the United States as that "shining city upon a hill." With Obama we have a guy who employs racists and is a virulent racist.

With Obama we have a President who thinks every pregnancy brought to term represents a failure.

With Obama we have a guy who is the greater of two evils in comparison to a composite of Julius Caesar, Josef Stalin, Adolf Hitler and Genghis Khan.

With Obama we have a guy for whom "the lesser of two evils" is meaningless.

I have no idea whether Ann Coulter is right about Mitt Romney. I like to think she is. Since we know the outcome of four more years of Obama, I'll be happy to take a chance on the alternative. That is, I'll contribute to Romney and campaign for him.

51 posted on 08/12/2012 2:06:51 PM PDT by stevem
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To: delacoert

Excuse me, but I call BS!!!

Conservatives have nobody to blame but themselves.

We had decent conservative candidates running in the primary. Romney, the sole RINO, was not anyone’s first choice.

Conservatives did what they always do......fail to coalesce around a candidate.

To this day, if you ask who would be better than Romney, you would get an argument that Bachmann would be better or Gingrich would be better ,etc, etc, etc.

I am sick and tired of those who claim conspiracy theories or want to cry like liberals that they were cheated.

CONSERVATIVE CHEATED THEMSELVES!!!!!!

What would have been wrong with a Gingrich?

Now, 20 self-professed conservative arbiters will tell everyone why Gingrich was bad.

Now ask: Would Gingrich be better than Romney?

Those same 20 self-professed conservative arbiters will not be silent.


52 posted on 08/12/2012 2:07:15 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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53 posted on 08/12/2012 2:19:50 PM PDT by RedMDer (https://support.woundedwarriorproject.org/default.aspx?tsid=93destr)
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To: narses

I keep it simple with loved ones and friends. My vote has value. I won't just give it to Republicans any more. I won't capitulate to a political party that up and left me. The "lesser of two evils" rationalization doesn't cut it me any more and it disgusts me.

54 posted on 08/12/2012 2:22:53 PM PDT by delacoert
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To: delacoert
Everything you said is wrong, and this is why evil continues to gain an even stroger foothold as time passes on.

No one person is going to offer you everything you want, or if he does there is a high probability he will miss some of the things I hold as important.

Just as those now controlling the Democratic Party took control, we conservatives must take control of the Republican Party, because a 3rd party has no chance.

55 posted on 08/12/2012 2:58:29 PM PDT by Robert DeLong (u)
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To: P-Marlowe; xzins; trisham; Jim Robinson
Where is the evidence that Romney has recognized his errors and regrets them?

Exactly!

Where has Romney said the following:

I supported unrestricted abortion for decades and I WAS WRONG.

I created the template for Obamacare and I WAS WRONG.

I permitted same-sex "marriage" and I WAS WRONG.

Nominating Ryan is nothing more than a red herring to placate conservatives, it changes NOTHING about Romney or his positions.

56 posted on 08/12/2012 3:00:10 PM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: P-Marlowe
"Where is the evidence that Romney has recognized his errors and regrets them?"- P-Marlowe

Story by Gary Bauer:

"Like Reagan, Romney is a contrite convert, referring to his past support for Roe as his life’s “defining mistake.”

When challenged about his previous support for abortion in a Republican debate in December, he said “I changed my mind…I’m firmly pro-life…sometimes I’m wrong.”

Gary Bauer is president of American Values and chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, and served for 8 years in the administration of President Ronald Reagan, including a stint as Reagan’s domestic policy adviser.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/19/mitt-romney-and-abortion-why-are-pro-lifers-still-questioning-convert/#ixzz23MxlZi4k

57 posted on 08/12/2012 3:02:21 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Chosing Ryan = a choice between two dramatically divergent views of government spending & taxes.)
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To: delacoert

And you are OK with the effect of your not voting (in any meaningful way) in the Presidential contest helping Obama?


58 posted on 08/12/2012 3:09:28 PM PDT by narses
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To: wagglebee

Story by Gary Bauer:

“Like Reagan, Romney is a contrite convert, referring to his past support for Roe as his life’s “defining mistake.”

When challenged about his previous support for abortion in a Republican debate in December, he said “I changed my mind…I’m firmly pro-life…sometimes I’m wrong.”

Gary Bauer is president of American Values and chairman of the Campaign for Working Families, and served for 8 years in the administration of President Ronald Reagan, including a stint as Reagan’s domestic policy adviser.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/06/19/mitt-romney-and-abortion-why-are-pro-lifers-still-questioning-convert/#ixzz23MxlZi4k


59 posted on 08/12/2012 3:10:37 PM PDT by narses
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To: wagglebee

Mitt Romney Never Flip-Flopped on Marriage

By: Maggie Gallagher, She is the founder of the National Organization for Marriage

“Mitt Romney didn’t just oppose court-ordered same-sex marriage with words, he fought hard, including behind the scenes.”

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/printpage/?url=http://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2011/12/02/mitt_romney_never_flip-flopped_on_marriage_112251.html


60 posted on 08/12/2012 3:10:48 PM PDT by NoLibZone (Chosing Ryan = a choice between two dramatically divergent views of government spending & taxes.)
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