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Social Security surplus dwarfed by future deficit
Associated Press ^ | Aug. 12 12:14 PM EDT | Stephen Ohlemacher

Posted on 08/12/2012 12:04:16 PM PDT by Olog-hai

As millions of baby boomers flood Social Security with applications for benefits, the program's $2.7 trillion surplus is starting to look small.

For nearly three decades Social Security produced big surpluses, collecting more in taxes from workers than it paid in benefits to retirees, disabled workers, spouses and children. The surpluses also helped mask the size of the budget deficit being generated by the rest of the federal government.

Those days are over.

Since 2010, Social Security has been paying out more in benefits than it collects in taxes, adding to the urgency for Congress to address the program's long-term finances. …

President Barack Obama created a deficit-reduction commission in 2010 but didn't embrace its plan for Social Security: raising the retirement age, reducing benefits for medium- and high-income workers and raising the cap on the amount of wages subject to the payroll tax, all very gradually. …

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1 posted on 08/12/2012 12:04:21 PM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
the program's $2.7 trillion surplus is starting to look small.

2.7 trillion in special treasury bonds (a.k.a. IOUs) is not a surplus.

2 posted on 08/12/2012 12:07:37 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: Olog-hai

Those days are over.

CHANGE


3 posted on 08/12/2012 12:08:29 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: CommieCutter
Since 2010, Social Security has been paying out more in benefits than it collects in taxes

That should not happen with a "surplus". Ah, but here is no surplus. Apparently the old lie of a "trust fund" has outlived its usefulness so they now have to use a new lie.

4 posted on 08/12/2012 12:13:26 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: Olog-hai; John Semmens
...the program's $2.7 trillion surplus...
I see the AP has taken to writing satire instead of reporting the news.
5 posted on 08/12/2012 12:14:25 PM PDT by philman_36 (Pride breakfasted with plenty, dined with poverty, and supped with infamy. Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Vaduz
Wow, one way to stop worrying about Social Security going bust is to DRAWF that problem with an even bigger one. Genius.

CHANGE- its verb. Like "We, you overlords, command you to change".

6 posted on 08/12/2012 12:15:49 PM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Vaduz

The SAVE SOCIAL SECURITY ACT (HR 2889) was introduced in September, 2011, by then Michigan Cong. Thaddeus McCotter. Crafted along with Peter Ferrara, it saved Social Security without increasing the retirement age, without increasing the withholding tax, without decreasing payouts, without affecting anyone 55 or over, and without privatization. It was scored by the Social Security Actuary as being the largest spending reduction in Government History. You know where it went? NOWHERE! The third rail of American Politics.


7 posted on 08/12/2012 12:17:12 PM PDT by cumbo78
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To: palmer

Basically.. they cash in a portion the treasury bonds (you know the “surplus”) to get reimbursed needed SS outlays back from the general fund.

The best part is if you go to the SS website they basically say there has never been a change in the way SS functions. If that’s true SS has always been this way.


8 posted on 08/12/2012 12:18:31 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: palmer

When I read the Forgotten Man it said SS was upheld by the Supreme Court as “a tax”.

Sound familiar?


9 posted on 08/12/2012 12:20:34 PM PDT by CommieCutter
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To: CommieCutter

That does sound familiar. I wonder who played the role of traitor Roberts that time? I wonder if they also promised to restrain overuse of the Commerce Clause.


10 posted on 08/12/2012 12:29:40 PM PDT by palmer (Jim, please bill me 50 cents for this completely useless post)
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To: CommieCutter

Yeah, not only does it look small, its already been spent. Also, its increasingly used for disability payments vs. actual retirees.


11 posted on 08/12/2012 12:31:38 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: cumbo78

Many hacks are going to feel the sting of the third rail of American Politics election time.
Their lack of action will prove to be futile for them.


12 posted on 08/12/2012 12:46:16 PM PDT by Vaduz
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To: central_va

DRAWF a problem with an even bigger one is caused by NOT making a CHANGE to Obama&Co rulings.

Fail = absence of action


13 posted on 08/12/2012 12:51:10 PM PDT by Vaduz
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I wonder how much Zer0’s payroll tax “holiday” will lower the benefits of future retirees...especially boomers.


14 posted on 08/12/2012 1:10:18 PM PDT by Roccus
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks Olog-hai.
15 posted on 08/12/2012 1:17:42 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: Olog-hai
There is no surplus. It's long gone. What the trustees took was IOUs, not even regular treasury bonds. So, when the SS system sends an IOU to the Treasury to get money to pay the plan participants the government has to take the money out of the current years budget, which is already funded over 40% from borrowing. So it's fair to say that the plan for SSI is to borrow money (create new T-bill debt) to pay off the plan participants. Because there isn't that much appetitie for sovreign debt at this point (see: Greece, Italy, Portugal, Spain) it is estimated that over 70% of last years debt was bought by the Fed itself (sometimes hidden through varoius machinations). Meaning, money was created out of thin air to buy bonds, which were used to pay off SSI recipients.

How long that can be sustained is anyone's guess, but it sure looks like the classic hyperinflationary spiral (ie: the snake is eating it's tail!)

Prep. PT. Propagate truth. Repeat.

16 posted on 08/12/2012 1:23:53 PM PDT by Jack Black ( Whatever is left of American patriotism is now identical with counter-revolution.)
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To: Olog-hai

I LOVE these Friday Silliness threads!


17 posted on 08/12/2012 1:29:38 PM PDT by Thom Pain (U.S. Constitution is a CONTRACT!)
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To: Olog-hai

Since 2010, Obama has done absolutely nothing to address this issue. He needs to be called out on this - and not be allowed to get away with his pat “soak the rich” solution.


18 posted on 08/12/2012 2:28:27 PM PDT by randita (Either the politicians fix our fiscal insanity, or the markets will.)
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To: Olog-hai
"As millions of baby boomers flood Social Security with applications for benefits, the program's $2.7 trillion surplus is starting to look small."

Does anyone remember during the debt ceiling debacle last Summer, Obama said he couldn't guarantee SS checks would go out if agreement wasn't reached?

If the SS surplus is real, why would he have said that? (rhetorical Q)

19 posted on 08/12/2012 2:31:32 PM PDT by SnuffaBolshevik (In a tornado, even turkeys can fly.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

The Crooks in Washington spent it all...Could have bought Government bonds and we would have the money plus interest....now we have zero..


20 posted on 08/12/2012 2:41:03 PM PDT by Hojczyk
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