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Young people prefer, 'No party affiliation'
BIZPACReview.com ^ | 8/13/2012 | John R. Smith

Posted on 08/13/2012 5:35:09 AM PDT by SmileRight

The Republican and Democratic parties had better watch out. More and more “Millennials” or Generation Y youth are avoiding party membership. And many of their reasons make sense.

For starters, neither party has catered to youth’s generational needs. The parties have supported politicians who have sold youth down the river. If you are young, let this sink in: Politicians in this country, mostly liberals, have sold out your future. They have put you in hock. They have borrowed astronomical sums of money to fund their current political programs, and you will have to pay it back.

It gets worse. ...

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: debt; generationy; genwrationy; independents; millenials; socialsecurity; trends; welfare
This generation isn't stupid. We've failed to hold our elected officials accountable and they see it. When long term officeholders are voted out by the Gen Y crowd (when they decide to vote), then the parties will have to take notice.
1 posted on 08/13/2012 5:35:21 AM PDT by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight

I agree, both parties stink.

Our elected officials no longer listen to the people. They listen to the special interests with the big bucks and are only interested in getting re-elected. All politicians disgust me these days.

That’s the main reason why I joined the tea party movement and I vote for whoever I think will do the least amount of damage.


2 posted on 08/13/2012 5:43:07 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: SmileRight

“The fastest growing political party in the United States is the “No Party,” and the number of independents is mushrooming, mostly at a loss for Ds. Why? The Rs and the Ds have not taken their candidates to the woodshed when they should.”

THIS.

I got a call from the College Republicans the other day. They played a stock message about how they were going to round up a group of college students to register voters, knock on doors, and DEFEAT BARACK OBAMA.

When the donation pitch came after the message, I said that I didn’t have any confidence in a Republican group that doesn’t plan to oust the liberals in its own ranks.

Rather than sidetrack my statement or even make a mealymouthed defense of the GOP, the girl on the other end simply hung up on me.

This is why the Republicans will continue to lose young voters like me who can see through their lies.


3 posted on 08/13/2012 5:43:52 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: SmileRight

“When they decide to vote”

I have tried to get my Gen Y Son to register to vote, he keeps blowing me off. I have attached the voter registration form to my fridge, with the hope that he will see the light.

sigh....


4 posted on 08/13/2012 5:46:56 AM PDT by alice_in_bubbaland (When injustice becomes law, resistance becomes mandatory- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Chocolate chip cookies.

But you don’t really know who he will vote for do you?


5 posted on 08/13/2012 5:53:16 AM PDT by listenhillary (Courts, law enforcement, roads and national defense should be the extent of government)
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To: SmileRight

The ones I meet aren’t stupid but seem to lack the capacity for rational thought and rarely take action on much of anything. And worse, they have the attention span of a nat.


6 posted on 08/13/2012 5:53:36 AM PDT by Rich21IE
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To: SmileRight
For starters, neither party has catered to youth’s generational needs.

Or maybe they've actually listened when their parents bitched and moaned for years about how the TWO parties really are no such thing.

Duh!

7 posted on 08/13/2012 5:53:36 AM PDT by MamaTexan (I am a Person as Created by the Laws of Nature, not a person as created by the laws of Man)
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To: Cato in PA
This is why the Republicans will continue to lose young voters like me who can see through their lies.

While I don't agree with the girl hanging up on you--she handled that in the completely wrong way--as conservatives (if I can assume you're one), the Republican Party is the party that most closely aligns with us. It is up to us to change the party from within.

I'm not defending the current Republican establishment. I just don't think it's productive to hand the Presidency back to Obama, and the Congress back to Pelosi and Reid, while we squabble over our differences. Just as Democrats, Republicans too, fall across a broad spectrum when it comes to their stance on issues.

We can talk about how best to resolve our differences privately, while standing united publicly to defeat Obama and his cronies. If you're a young voter, you have the energy to join the Party and change it. Point out our shortcomings, but come with some ideas for fixing them. What better option do you have?

8 posted on 08/13/2012 5:57:13 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

you too, huh? Double sigh!


9 posted on 08/13/2012 5:57:58 AM PDT by T.O.K.
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

I do not care if young folks are not choosing to be Republicans. They at least have the good sense not to be openly known as Democrats, either.

But at a deeper level, these young people have been subjected to an excessive amount of indoctrination in public schools and into institutions of higher learning (which is becoming an ever more laughable concept with the passage of time), and not a lot of counter arguments have been made to them.

Some of them may be beyond our reach for several years yet, but reality is going to give them a fetch upside the head in a most educational manner. Everything is starting to cost a LOT more, and there are ever-dwindling opportunities to close the gap between needs and the means to satisfying them.


10 posted on 08/13/2012 6:06:31 AM PDT by alloysteel (Voter suppression is needed now more than ever. Only, whom shall be suppressed?)
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To: SmileRight

Or perhaps they just care more about parties, TV and celebrities than the future of their country...


11 posted on 08/13/2012 6:12:19 AM PDT by LastNorwegian
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To: SmileRight
This generation isn't stupid.

Yes they are. Otherwise they wouldn't participate in the OWS movements and/or mock Tea Party ideas.

12 posted on 08/13/2012 6:13:16 AM PDT by edpc (Wilby 2012)
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To: SmileRight
There have been many anecdotal reports on FR of Obama supporters who have finally seen the light and absolutely won't vote for him again. Has anyone ever heard the opposite? People who didn't vote for him in ‘08 but now say, “I was wrong about Obama but now I'm so excited with the job he's been doing that I can't wait to vote for him in November.” Anyone?
13 posted on 08/13/2012 6:14:10 AM PDT by JPG (Make it happen.)
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To: SmileRight

But how to do it? The Democratic method of offering free higher education (which sinks the country further into debt), or the traditional (but not necessarily in practice) GOP model of getting government out of the way and allow youth to build their own future and prosper?


14 posted on 08/13/2012 6:17:57 AM PDT by cap10mike (Free market)
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To: JPG

No, but here in deep blue Connecticut, I’m seeing normally non-political people opening up about how we need a new president and how they’re putting their plans on hold until we get a new president.


15 posted on 08/13/2012 6:22:08 AM PDT by kidd
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To: Lou L

Yes, I’m a conservative, but any general donations I make are given to Tea Party organizations that have no sacred cows to spare. I have no use for groups that want to play politics in the way you described.

I’m the firebrand that political players don’t like. In Tea Party groups, I don’t have to wade through ten levels of bureaucracy and seniority to find a receptive audience. I have the energy to enact change, and this, from what I can see, is the most effective way to make it happen.


16 posted on 08/13/2012 6:28:04 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland
Have you tried bribery? In my senior year in high school the civics teacher gave extra credit points to anyone who turned 18 and registered to vote. It wasn't much but it was enough to get almost everyone to take a minute to write down their names and addresses on a form (no ID required at the time).
17 posted on 08/13/2012 6:33:32 AM PDT by KarlInOhio (Recycled Olympic tagline Shut up, Bob Costas. Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!)
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To: alice_in_bubbaland

Conservatives need to continue forming their own groups outside of the Republican party.


18 posted on 08/13/2012 6:39:39 AM PDT by Jacvin
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To: SmileRight

The downside is that they are extremely likely to flock to the coolest, hippest Flavor of the Month (who could turn out to be the American Hitler)


19 posted on 08/13/2012 6:51:28 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Cato in PA

I would like to have a dollar for all the times I’ve been blown off by the republican establishment followed by a request for money. Now, I get a couple of “surveys” a week with requests for money.

I think the biggest fear for conservatives is there are still a majority of “spenders” in congress on the republican side. I would never stay home in an election, and will never vote for a democrap, or third party (which, to me, is as just as bad as staying home). This election is all about getting rid of socialists, progressives, and liberals in the white house, the US house and the senate. Once that is accomplished in November, we can push the republican “spenders” to the minority in the party.


20 posted on 08/13/2012 7:15:02 AM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Lou L

The republican party lost me when they nominated Romney.

I’ll re-register as Republican once he’s gone.


21 posted on 08/13/2012 7:15:12 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: OrioleFan

“This election is all about getting rid of socialists, progressives, and liberals in the white house”

Which is why we’ve got Romney...

I’m sure he’ll make getting rid of socialists, progressives and liberals high on his agenda.


22 posted on 08/13/2012 7:18:27 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge

Romney wasn’t my first choice, but I think adding Ryan definitely boosts the ticket. We have to start somewhere. Another four years of Obama would be a disaster for this country.


23 posted on 08/13/2012 7:32:41 AM PDT by SmileRight
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To: SmileRight
Re: More and more “Millennials” or Generation Y youth... are avoiding party membership.

If only this had taken place years ago... think how better off we would be today!

24 posted on 08/13/2012 7:34:14 AM PDT by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Lou L
If you're a young voter, you have the energy to join the Party and change it. Point out our shortcomings, but come with some ideas for fixing them. What better option do you have?

They just tried that. Intelligent, educated young people showed up in large numbers to the conventions this year. Several of them were even elected to delegate positions. They fought for the Constitution, sound fiscal policy, stopping government invasion of our lives, extreme government spending cuts, a foreign policy like Reagan's, and ending the Federal Reserve. They were not welcomed.

Ballots were stuffed at the conventions for Romney, rules were broken so that these supporters would not have a voice, they were kicked out, and the Romney campaign forced these duly elected delegates from their positions and replaced them with their hand-picked candidates after the conventions.

Why would Republicans turn away the new, youthful voice of America? They were Ron Paul supporters.

I have to say that most of the conventions disgraced this party. After 20 years of being a Republican, I have to say I am very disappointed in the Romney nomination and the entire process. We need these youth and we are shooting ourselves in the foot.
25 posted on 08/13/2012 7:45:59 AM PDT by bravedog
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To: alice_in_bubbaland; LucyT; All

” - - - Our elected officials no longer listen to the people. They listen to the special interests with the big bucks and are only interested in getting re-elected. “

Your above quote includes the erroneous Liberal Agenda Media hype that politicians “ - - - listen to the special interests with the big bucks - - -. “

If that were true then Obama, Poo-low-see, Reid and the rest of the Democrats would have done the following:
not voted for TARP,
rejected the various Federal “stimulus” bills,
passed a Federal Budget every year,
reduced Federal BASELINE spending 1 % per year, every year on all Entitlement programs, and other non-essential Federal Programs,
passed a four year Federal hiring freeze law,
rejected Dodd-Frank,
rejected Obama”care,”
reduced the regulation strangulation on our once Fortress Banks,
forced Bernanke to allow interest rates to be more controlled by the financial markets,
allowed the US Housing Market to resolve the “underwater” homeowners who bought their houses at peak high prices,
passed legislation to sell off and within 10 years abolish FHA, Freddie and Fannie, so this Federal Housing Crash could never happen again,
revoked the sub-prime housing laws that led to the cause of the Housing Crash of 2008,
held Congressional investigations and follow up Legislation into the Federal Irresponsibility and criminal behavior of FHA, Freddie Mac, and Fannie Mae executives and regulators,
cut all Federally elected politician’s pay by 10% a year until the Federally-caused Housing Crash of 2008 returned to normal,
reduced the BASELINE entitlement payments by 5 % across all programs if the annunal deficit is greater that 100 Billion Dollars for the previous year,
lowered the Federally dictated Minimum Wage,
suspended the Federally dictated unfunded mandates to all 50 States,
suspended all Federal Public Union Contracts until the US Federal National Debt is reduced to the amount it was at the end of the GHWB Years,
allowed drilling in the Gulf of Mexico while BP killed their underwater blowout,
immediately approved the revised XL pipeline construction proposal,
suspended all EPA regulations on Coal, Oil and Gas fracturing, and CO2 emissions,
sent the GSA executives to jail,
assigned GSA functions to multiple government agencies,
sold Air Force 2 and other duplicate Federal Corporate Jets,
restricted use of Air Force One to one flight a month, domestic, and one flight a year Foreign,
reduced the Executive Privileges of the Presidency to resulting expenditures not to exceed 1 Million dollars,
revoke the authority of the Administrative Branch to award Contracts, or give loans that have not had the official notification published for 30 consecutive days in the US Congressional Record;
etc., etc.,etc.

The rest of your two statements have supporting evidence. The Media anti-business hype segment, TO THIS MOMENT IN TIME, has NO supporting evidence.

“Both” political parties seek the lowest common denominator of poverty-driven dependency on Federal Welfare dollars to buy the votes of the ever-increasing number of voters in poverty in the vicious loop of European Socialism.

Thus, the US Federal Government has truly become “To Big to Fail.”

IOW, in true Orwellian/Volker doublespeak: “Since the US Federal Government is ruining America financially, we must keep on allowing the US Federal Government to become even more powerful financially, because if we don’t, then America will be ruined financially even more than it is now being ruined financially.”

BTW, last year more “millionaires and billionaires” renounced their US citizenships than in any other previous year - - - . Duh.


26 posted on 08/13/2012 7:50:05 AM PDT by Graewoulf ((Traitor John Roberts' Obama"care" violates Sherman Anti-Trust Law, AND the U.S. Constitution.))
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To: Cato in PA
I’m the firebrand that political players don’t like...I have the energy to enact change, and this, from what I can see, is the most effective way to make it happen.

Well, it sounds like you're doing the right thing. I think the Tea Party is a force for change within the Republican Party. The TP is not trying to advance a third party, but rather, change an existing party that is most aligned with its ideals. Bravo.

27 posted on 08/13/2012 7:50:06 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: OrioleFan

You talk about marginalizing the RINOs elites as if it was a bullet point on a timeline. It isn’t that simple. It has to be an ongoing process because of how deeply the elites are entrenched in the Republican Party, and waiting only makes it more difficult.

We need to start with Romney. Everybody here knows that he has no core values, but we can make that work for us if we bring pressure against him to shore up his conservative credentials.

This election will begin and end on the economy. As it stands, Romney’s plan for the economy is laughable at best. Don’t you remember him struggling to explain it during the primary debates? Stand up, rock the boat, raise hell, and make sure that Slick Willard knows that he can’t ignore us!


28 posted on 08/13/2012 7:53:32 AM PDT by Cato in PA (1/26/12: Bloody Thursday)
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To: SmileRight

The smaller the Republican Party gets the more my vote in the primary counts. That is where the weeding is supposed to take place.


29 posted on 08/13/2012 7:53:49 AM PDT by central_va ( I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: JCBreckenridge
The republican party lost me when they nominated Romney.

So whom do you expect to vote for in the general election this November, if not Romney? Will you enter a write-in candidate? Will you choose some Libertarian with no chance to capture more than 2% of the vote? What do you expect your vote to accomplish, if not to elect whom we have as our candidate? Another four years of Obama? That'll teach us...

30 posted on 08/13/2012 7:56:33 AM PDT by Lou L (Health "insurance" is NOT the same as health "care")
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To: Lou L

“So whom do you expect to vote for in the general election this November, if not Romney?”

Virgil Goode. Prolife and supports traditional marriage.

“What do you expect your vote to accomplish, if not to elect whom we have as our candidate?”

To give Goode the support he deserves, as he is the candidate closest to my own principles.

What do you expect your ballot to accomplish?


31 posted on 08/13/2012 9:06:30 AM PDT by JCBreckenridge (Texas, Texas, Whisky)
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To: JCBreckenridge
I’m sure he’ll make getting rid of socialists, progressives and liberals high on his agenda.

Not up to him. That's for us voters to do. I'm working with my neighbor (a Tea Partier who got elected as a Precinct Captain) to work our local neighborhood, and change enough minds oust Sherrod Brown as well as Obama. The DNC Headquarters is a block from my house where ACORN used to be headquartered.

32 posted on 08/13/2012 2:28:09 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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To: Cato in PA

I was for Newt in the primaries.


33 posted on 08/13/2012 2:30:11 PM PDT by OrioleFan (Republicans believe every day is July 4th, Democrats believe every day is April 15th.)
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