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The stories white guys tell themselves
St. Petersburg - Tampa Bay Times ^ | August 12, 2012 | Robyn E. Blumner,

Posted on 08/14/2012 8:03:40 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Joan Didion wrote, "We tell ourselves stories in order to live." I'd modify that slightly for this presidential election year and say, we tell ourselves stories in order to vote. Which is why Mitt Romney maintains a huge lead in the polls among blue-collar white men.

The differential is staggering. Non-college-educated white men give Romney a 37-point advantage over President Barack Obama according to a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll. Why would struggling wage earners support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1 percent, a group that controls 43 percent of the wealth in the country, while adding to the tax burdens of people at the lower end of the income scale? Racial issues aside — and I'm not discounting the significant "black president" factor, it comes down to the power of myth and story.

White men have been fed the myth of the rags-to-riches, self-made man, the quintessential American narrative that says hard work and perseverance will equate to success. The idea cemented in the male cerebral cortex is that people who start from nothing can work themselves from the Horatio Alger mailroom to the corner office.

The unflattering flip side of this is that failure is a character flaw. If you don't succeed, you didn't work hard enough. As the story goes, anyone who takes government help falls into this category.

A recent Romney campaign ad draws on this theme by accusing Obama of trying to take the work requirement out of welfare. (A false assertion, by the way.) As CBS News' Bob Schieffer explained, this ad is designed to shore up support among white working-class men. In shades of Willie Horton, the ad offers a racially divisive subtext while reinforcing the self-made-man corollary that people who need government assistance are lazy moochers.

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1 posted on 08/14/2012 8:03:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Is there a true sentence in this whole article?


2 posted on 08/14/2012 8:05:59 AM PDT by lurk
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

In a real free market, you can succeed or fail entirely on your own merits. It’s only when government gets involved that luck, favoritism, and protectionism become major issues.


3 posted on 08/14/2012 8:07:19 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why would struggling wage earners support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1 percent, a group that controls 43 percent of the wealth in the country, while adding to the tax burdens of people at the lower end of the income scale?

Poor Robyn Blummer is living proof that a mind is a terrible thing to waste. Here she starts with a question that is concluded with a false statement. The answer to her question about why struggling wage earners support a candidate who does not want to tax their jobs out of existence should be obvious, but she throws in the false claim that Romney would add to their tax burdens. I guess in the wasted mind of a liberal anything that doesn't punish wealth creators must by definition increase the burden on the poor, but that is just one more reason why a mind truly is a terrible thing to waste.

4 posted on 08/14/2012 8:09:57 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Non-college-educated white men give Romney a 37-point advantage over President Barack Obama according to a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll.

And 98% of the black vote went to Obama in 2008. Are they racist too?

I'm so sick of this slant against conservatives. Stupid reporters have nothing better to do I guess.

5 posted on 08/14/2012 8:11:41 AM PDT by al_c (http://www.blowoutcongress.com)
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To: lurk
Is there a true sentence in this whole article?

Does it have to be a complete sentence to qualify ?

6 posted on 08/14/2012 8:11:50 AM PDT by UCANSEE2 (`)
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To: lurk

A jaw dropping pile of racist, class-warfare commie “intellect.”


7 posted on 08/14/2012 8:12:03 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
A recent Romney campaign ad draws on this theme by accusing Obama of trying to take the work requirement out of welfare. (A false assertion, by the way.)

I guess the only way you can claim this is a false assertion is that since Obama has already by Executive Order removed the work requirement it is a false assertion to accuse him of merely trying to take the work requirement out of welfare.

8 posted on 08/14/2012 8:12:26 AM PDT by VRWCmember
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Romney just wants to keep the Obama Tax Cuts in place. He doesn’t propose to raise taxes on anybody.

BTW, they hate it when you call them the “Obama Tax Cuts”. But they were passed by Democrat supermajorities in both houses of Congress and signed by President Obama, so I don’t know how you could call them anything else.


9 posted on 08/14/2012 8:13:10 AM PDT by Haiku Guy ("The problem with Internet Quotes is that you never know if they are real" -- Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
White men have been fed the myth of the rags-to-riches, self-made man, the quintessential American narrative that says hard work and perseverance will equate to success.

Ms. Blumner seems so desperately unhappy here, in this country, surrounded by delusional yokels who believe wholeheartedly in its principles and its promise.

I just can't shake the nagging feeling that there's actually something she could do about that, ultimately.

10 posted on 08/14/2012 8:15:19 AM PDT by KentTrappedInLiberalSeattle ("If you're not fiscally AND socially conservative, you're not conservative!" - Jim Robinson, 9-1-10)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The person that wrote the article is typical of media bias....but it is not going to work this time.. the Giant is awake...and we will clean house -all of them


11 posted on 08/14/2012 8:16:21 AM PDT by rxtn41
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
This is the crux of this socialist writer's real ideology:

The self-made man myth needs to be exploded. It dangerously serves the interests of the top 1 percent.

Somehow, when as a young boy growing up in a turn of the century 4 room wood house with no water - for your city folks that means a well and an outhouse too, REA electricity, a coal fired pot belly stove and floorboards so tight you could sweep the dirt through them to the dirt below, I never blamed "the rich white man" for my troubles.

Somehow, when my sharecropper's son father who only finished the 5th grade told me to join the military to get ahead, I didn't blame it on "the rich white man."p> Somehow, when my military pay started out at $94/month and ended up 8 years later at $594/month, I didn't blame it on "the rich white man."

Somehow, when my after-service pay was $150/week and supporting a wife and young son, I didn't blame it on "the rich white man." I instead followed that dream this writer so demeans. I got a second job, applied to Georgia Tech and used something I'd earned - the GI bill.

I graduated exactly three years later. My doomed life of poverty wasn't erased by the "equal outcome" prescribed by this writer or his ilk. It was erased by hard, hard work and a knowledge that the dream is real, at least for those not so lazy to believe this writer's intended meaning of success.

12 posted on 08/14/2012 8:16:30 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

LOL!
The author is the perfect spokeswoman for the bums, deadbeats, losers, and parasites who comprise the Democrat party “base”.


13 posted on 08/14/2012 8:16:57 AM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
The author seems to have selective amnesia.

The reason "white working class" people have written 0bama off is that 0bama has written them off.

Obama Publicly Writes Off White, Working Class Voters as Advertisement to His Base

14 posted on 08/14/2012 8:17:23 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Non-college-educated white men give Romney a 37-point advantage over President Barack Obama according to a recent ABC News/Washington Post poll. Why would struggling wage earners support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1 percent, a group that controls 43 percent of the wealth in the country, while adding to the tax burdens of people at the lower end of the income scale?

Because "Non-college-educated white men" are the group most disadvantaged by affirmative action, and they predominantly depend on the private sector to provide their jobs. And that "top 1%" are the very people who provide the bulk of the private-sector blue collar jobs, in all the small businesses across the country.

15 posted on 08/14/2012 8:17:39 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (A deep-fried storm is coming, Mr Obama.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

We haven’t seen racism until people like this writer get ahold of the controls.


16 posted on 08/14/2012 8:18:19 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Non-college-educated white men give Romney a 37-point advantage over President Barack Obama...

I would believe this one, as most college educated people have been subjected to four years of merciless socialist indoctrination. It is difficult to resist, but some do (I know, I did).

17 posted on 08/14/2012 8:18:51 AM PDT by jeffc (The U.S. media are our enemy)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; lurk
A jaw dropping pile of racist, class-warfare commie “intellect.”

There is not a single sentence that is true in this article.

This article is literally dripping with hate and racism.

18 posted on 08/14/2012 8:19:15 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“Blumner is a graduate of Cornell University and NYU School of Law. After working as a labor lawyer in New York, she became executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Utah. In 1989, she took over the directorship of the ACLU of Florida, where she worked until joining the staff of the Times.”

In other words, this article was written by an exceptionally stupid woman who has never done anything like work, and whose career has mostly revolved around serving the communist cause.


20 posted on 08/14/2012 8:21:48 AM PDT by GenXteacher (You have chosen dishonor to avoid war; you shall have war also.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What about the lies that minorities (read blacks) tell themselves? That they are being held down by the white man, and that they are owed their welfare check and foodstamps from the gubmint because of slavery. What about those lies you ignorant wench? These liberal “journalists” really fry me.


21 posted on 08/14/2012 8:22:28 AM PDT by SFRigger (It may be about time to water the tree of liberty again.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Only non-college-educated white men should be allowed to vote.


22 posted on 08/14/2012 8:24:33 AM PDT by Arthur McGowan (In Edward Kennedy's America, federal funding of brothels is a right, not a privilege.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“BARF ALERT” required in headline.


23 posted on 08/14/2012 8:24:52 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Are you believing this idiot!!


24 posted on 08/14/2012 8:25:41 AM PDT by ontap
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why would struggling wage earners support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1 percent, a group that controls 43 percent of the wealth in the country . . .

Well, let's just start listing a few reasons, such as:

  1. That nasty 1% also does most of the hiring. They have the choice of doing it here or moving their money off-shore to do it somewhere else. Guess where they are going to move it if we keep squeezing and demonizing them?
  2. The elitist nimrods who control the top 1 percent in media, academia, law and government have a far more dismal record on hiring. They redistribute wealth to their enablers to spend on propaganda dissemination, booze, drugs, lottery tickets and overpriced construction contracts for the 7% of the workforce which is unionized and an army of bureaucrats to enforce their new social order.
  3. Many of us struggling wage earners have stood behind EBT card users in grocery lines and seen them buy food we can't afford and drive away in cars we can't afford.
  4. Many of us struggling wage earners have had to take family members to ER or clinical visits where our loved-ones can't even be seen until we produce an insurance card and make a copay and have seen non-English speaking people waltz to the front of the line with no expectation to produce either. If we question it, we are branded as xenophobic racists.
  5. Many of us struggling wage earners frankly trust the elite 1% in business to provide us job opportunities to earn our way more than we trust the elite 1% in government (and their enablers in media, academia and law) to give us a handout of somebody else's money.
  6. Many of us struggling wage earners are smart enough to understand that even though Mitt Romney is far from our first choice, he is likely to do far more for us by helping the 1% in business do more hiring and giving us the opportunity to work than BO and his 1% in government can possibly do by fundamentally transforming America into a third world country like Kenya.

25 posted on 08/14/2012 8:26:12 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Mz Blumner is obviously a hed-hot passionate bigot of the first order. What about other groups, including blacks and Jews and “Latinos”, voting in a monolith? What sort of lies to those groups tell themselves. Hmmm? Mz Blumner?


26 posted on 08/14/2012 8:30:49 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The prospect of having a taxable income is surprisingly motivating.
The Left does not understand this.


27 posted on 08/14/2012 8:32:03 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ($1 meals: http://abuckaplate.blogspot.com)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Blumner is a graduate of Cornell University and NYU School of Law. After working as a labor lawyer in New York, she became executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Utah. In 1989, she took over the directorship of the ACLU of Florida, where she worked until joining the staff of the Times." profile

Yeah, I really, really care what this goof thinks.

28 posted on 08/14/2012 8:32:07 AM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Why would struggling wage earners support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1 percent...

Because those 1% are the most likely to create employment for the rest of us.

29 posted on 08/14/2012 8:33:00 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, you sure as hell won’t get rich sitting on your ass, doing the bare minimum, collecting welfare checks. You may survive though, minimally.


30 posted on 08/14/2012 8:34:39 AM PDT by RC one
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To: PapaBear3625
Because "Non-college-educated white men" are the group most disadvantaged by affirmative action...

A "sound byte" is born!

Bravo! Profound insight!

31 posted on 08/14/2012 8:36:45 AM PDT by papertyger ("And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if..."))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
I'm an atheist - so what?

By ROBYN E. BLUMNER Published August 8, 2004

"What is it," asked German philosopher Friedrich Neitzche, "

Though I was brought up in a religious faith, it was at a very young age - preteen - that I realized I had no belief in God and no amount of indoctrination was going to change that. This sense of nonbelief has been so strong and abiding throughout my life that I find it virtually impossib

Robyn Blumner

Blumner is a graduate of Cornell University and NYU School of Law. After working as a labor lawyer in New York, she became executive director of the American Civil Liberties Union of Utah. In 1989, she took over the directorship of the ACLU of Florida, where she worked until joining the staff of the Times.

32 posted on 08/14/2012 8:40:05 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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To: Vigilanteman

BUMP!!!


34 posted on 08/14/2012 8:45:33 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: RC one

I notice she mentions that “we” think that being the recipient of a government handout is indicative of flawed character.

Yes, we as a society used to, and still should, see an able-bodied person living on the forcibly confiscated earnings of others as being indicative of a character flaw. It used to be SHAMEFUL. But, the left has done their best to remove the shame aspect.


35 posted on 08/14/2012 8:47:28 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Joan Didion is plagiarizing from the SEIU notebook again. What a crappy rehash of Union talking points.


36 posted on 08/14/2012 8:48:39 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
Blumner is either an ignoramus or a typical deceitful lib scribbler. Or both. At no time do these overpaid, undereducated nitwits ever ask the question if we are spending our way to Greece-type insolvency. With these morons it's always the same tiresome drivel about middle-aged white men worrying about their "privileges" being taken away by minorites.

Has Blumner ever ventured outside her self-imposed lib cocoon and actually talked to people with conservative beliefs and asked them why they believe what they believe? Does she ever ask herself what the proper role of government should be? I seriously doubt it. Instead, Blumner offers up the same moronic, pompous, class warfare, leftist talking points you've read thousands of times.

37 posted on 08/14/2012 8:49:03 AM PDT by driftless2
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To: KeyLargo

Ah, a “humanist”, someone that believes in the full autonomy (unaccountability) of humans, that “reason” can discover truth, and that mankind is perfectible if only the right environment is imposed on them.

When you start out with your feet dangling in mid-air on a false worldview, you’re going to reach obviously flawed conclusions such as she has.


38 posted on 08/14/2012 8:50:30 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

See; here the moonbats go again. It’s all the working-class white guys’ fault. If he didn’t go to Berkeley but chose to work his ass off doing what HE wanted to, and then falls on less than good times, HE’S RACIST AND THE CAUSE OF ALL OF THE BLACK MAN’S PROBLEMS - especially Obammas’. Somebody please flush!


39 posted on 08/14/2012 8:50:57 AM PDT by arrdon (Never underestimate the stupidity of the American voter.)
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To: Steamburg

Joan Didion is plagiarizing from the SEIU notebook again. What a crappy rehash of Union talking points and Joan Didion is plagiarizing from the SEIU notebook again and Robyn E. Blumner is simply copying the work.

Not an original thought here.


40 posted on 08/14/2012 8:52:02 AM PDT by Steamburg (The contents of your wallet is the only language Politicians understand.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

>>Joan Didion wrote, “We tell ourselves stories in order to live.”

Unfortunately, liberal stories are all lies.

When I was small and my grandma caught a child in a lie, she would say they were telling stories.

Conservatives do not need stories.


41 posted on 08/14/2012 8:52:41 AM PDT by Only1choice____Freedom (FDR had the New Deal. President 0bama has the Raw Deal.)
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To: driftless2
....Has Blumner ever ventured outside her self-imposed lib cocoon and actually talked to people with conservative beliefs and asked them why they believe what they believe? Does she ever ask herself what the proper role of government should be? I seriously doubt it. Instead, Blumner offers up the same moronic, pompous, class warfare, leftist talking points you've read thousands of times.

She was incubated in the progressive academic womb, surrounded and groomed by elites, insulated in a union ivory tower and then plopped down at the St. Pete Times to regurgitate.

42 posted on 08/14/2012 8:54:27 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

re: “Why would struggling wage earners support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1 percent, a group that controls 43 percent of the wealth in the country, while adding to the tax burdens of people at the lower end of the income scale?”

As has already been point out, the second part of her sentence, “while adding to the tax burdens . . .” is a total lie.

But, I want to address the first part of her sentence regarding why “struggling wage earners would support a candidate who would give tax cuts to the top 1%”, (a lie of omission in that Romney/Ryan are proposing tax cuts for everyone, not just the “1%”).

The reason we lowly wage earners would also support tax breaks for the wealthy is that we know it is from the wealthy that JOBS and the MONEY to pay the employees comes - DUH!.

It is also from the private sector that all public employees receive their funding as well. Obama somehow thinks that by growing the public sector, this will stimulate the economy, when as we all know, this simply drains money from the economy.

I’m not saying there is no need for some governmental employees - but, their funding has to come from the private sector. If you want to have a stable tax base to pay truely needed state public employees, then do what you can to support business and it’s growth and maintenence.

Obama thinks business is a never-ending well of money. He shoots, cooks, and eats the golden goose, a new goose may come along to replace it but it will be smaller and weaker, then, he does the same to that goose, then the next one comes that is smaller and weaker than the one before, and so on till there is no golden goose at all.

This is what democrats both local and national do. They never “get it” about business. Just raise business taxes on anything that makes money (or, even if it doesn’t) - if it keeps making a profit or somehow stays in business, then tax it some more. If it goes out of business, then look for the next victim. The problem is the victims are about played out.


43 posted on 08/14/2012 8:55:29 AM PDT by rusty schucklefurd
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Boy, did you dig up a winner here! Can’t wait to read her brilliant insights about the forthcoming GOP convention in Tampa.


44 posted on 08/14/2012 8:56:10 AM PDT by Cincinatus (Omnia relinquit servare Rempublicam)
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To: Gaffer

Congrats!! Sounds like a great story.

Go Dawgs!!


45 posted on 08/14/2012 8:58:00 AM PDT by wyowolf
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To: rusty schucklefurd
.....As has already been point out, the second part of her sentence, “while adding to the tax burdens . . .” is a total lie......

........."The first truth about leftist missionaries, about believing progressives, is that they are liars. But they are not liars in the ordinary way, which is to say by choice. They are liars by necessity—often without even realizing that they are. Because they also lie to themselves. It is the political lie that gives their cause its life.

Why, for example, if you were one of them, would you tell the truth? If you were serious about your role in humanity's vanguard, if you had the knowledge (which others did not), that you were certain would lead them to a better world, why would you tell them a truth that they could not "understand" and that would hold them back?

If others could understand your truth, you would not think of yourself as a "vanguard." You would no longer inhabit the morally charmed world of an elite, whose members alone can see the light and whose mission is to lead the unenlightened towards it. If everybody could see the promised horizon and knew the path to reach it, the future would already have happened and there would be no need for the vanguard of the saints.

That is both the ethical core and psychological heart of what it means to be a part of the left. That is where the gratification comes from. To see yourself as a social redeemer. To feel anointed. In other words: To be progressive is itself the most satisfying narcissism.

That is why it is of little concern to them that their socialist schemes have run aground, burying millions of human beings in their wake. That is why they don't care that their panaceas have caused more human suffering than all the injustices they have ever challenged. That is why they never learn from their "mistakes." That is why the continuance of Them is more important than any truth.

If you were active in the so-called "peace" movement or in the radical wing of the civil rights causes, why would you tell the truth? Why would you tell people that no, you weren't really a "peace activist," except in the sense that you were against America's war. Why would you draw attention to the fact that while you called yourselves "peace activists," you didn't oppose the Communists' war, and were gratified when America's enemies won?

What you were really against was not war at all, but American "imperialism" and American capitalism. What you truly hated was America's democracy, which you knew to be a "sham" because it was controlled by money in the end. That's why you wanted to "Bring the Troops Home," as your slogan said. Because if America's troops came home, America would lose and the Communists would win. And the progressive future would be one step closer.

But you never had the honesty—then or now—to admit that. You told the lie then to maintain your influence and increase your power to do good (as only the Chosen can). And you keep on telling the lie for the same reason.

Why would you admit that, despite your tactical support for civil rights, you weren't really committed to civil rights as Americans understand rights? What you really wanted was to overthrow the very Constitution that guaranteed those rights, based as it is on private property and the individual—both of which you despise.

It is because America is a democracy and the people endorse it, that the left's anti-American, but "progressive" agendas can only be achieved by deceiving the people. This is the cross the left has to bear: The better world is only achievable by lying to the very people they propose to redeem.

[SNIP]

Despite the homage contemporary leftists pay to post-modernist conceits, despite their belated and half-hearted display of critical sentiment towards Communist regimes, they are very much the ideological heirs of Stalinist progressives, who supported the greatest mass murders in human history, but who remember themselves as civil libertarian opponents of McCarthy and victims of a political witch-hunt. (Only the dialectically gifted can even begin to follow the logic involved.)

And that is why they hate conservatives. They hate you because you are killers of their dream. Because you are defenders of a Constitution that thwarts their cause. They hate you because your "reactionary" commitment to individual rights, to a single standard and to a neutral and limited state obstructs their progressive designs. They hate you because you are believers in property and its rights as the cornerstones of prosperity and human freedom; because you do not see the market economy as a mere instrument for acquiring personal wealth and political war chests, to be overcome in the end by bureaucratic schemes.

Conservatives who think progressives are misinformed idealists will forever be blind-sided by the malice of the left—by the cynicism of those who pride themselves on principle, by the viciousness of those who champion sensitivity, by the intolerance of those who call themselves liberal, and by the ruthless disregard for the well-being of the downtrodden by those who preen themselves as social saints.

Conservatives are caught by surprise because they see progressives as merely misguided, when in fact they are fundamentally misdirected. They are the messianists of a religious faith. But it is a false faith and a self-serving religion. Since the redeemed future that justifies their existence and rationalizes their hypocrisy can never be realized, what really motivates progressives is a modern idolatry: their limitless passion for the continuance of Them." David Horowitz

46 posted on 08/14/2012 9:02:44 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

It sounds like Robyn E. Blumner is a racist. The “media” is full of her type these days.


47 posted on 08/14/2012 9:09:20 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (You win some, you lose some and some you don't suit up for.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"White men have been fed the myth of the rags-to-riches, self-made man, the quintessential American narrative that says hard work and perseverance will equate to success..."

Thomas Edison, Henry Ford, Benjamin Franklin, Steve Jobs, Warren Buffet, Bill Gates, Steve Wynn, Sheldon Adelson, George Westinghouse, Harvey Firestone, Andrew Carnegie, Frank Perdue, Sam Walton, Russell Simmons, John Harold Johnson, Michael Dell, Ronald Reagan, John Hancock, George Pullman, P.T. Barnum, W. Clement Stone, A.L. Williams, Ross Perot, Ray Kroc, Larry Ellison, Sean Combs, Abraham Lincoln, Frederick Douglas, Booker T. Washington, Milton S. Hershey, Walt Disney, John Sperling, David Sarnoff, Dwight Eisenhower, Philip Danforth Armour, etc., etc. I could go on and on.

48 posted on 08/14/2012 9:25:29 AM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Who wrote this crap? “Julia?”


49 posted on 08/14/2012 9:28:34 AM PDT by henkster (We're the slaves of the phony leaders...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The idea of America — the experiment — liberty and success.


50 posted on 08/14/2012 9:30:56 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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