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Aug 14, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/14/2012 1:53:35 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

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To: Kevmo
I am not saying that the GOP/R establishment is anything other than dishonorable, vile, liberal-esque, and so on.

But Rombag will not create gulags, starve us, have his gang machine gun us and bulldoze our dead bodies in ravines, poison us, or send us to "re-education" camps to be slaughereed en masse.

Okaka will. Guaranteed. The reason I changed my mind is because my eyes were opened just a tad more to exactly how evil 0kaka is.

301 posted on 08/16/2012 5:11:24 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kevmo

The cars aren’t about voting. They’re about being alive in 4 years or not being alive in 4 years.

http://noiri.blogspot.com/2012/08/who-is-your-mama-who-is-your-papa-who.html


302 posted on 08/16/2012 5:12:32 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

But Rombag will not create gulags, starve us, have his gang machine gun us and bulldoze our dead bodies in ravines, poison us, or send us to “re-education” camps to be slaughereed en masse.
***This is an overblown, irrational fear. Proceeding from that fear is cowardice. The better path is to think about what you’d do if you were not afraid. In 2016 we will have another election and 0bama will not be on the ballot. I’m not going to pull the lever FOR a babykilling, lying statist just because someone else is afraid.


303 posted on 08/16/2012 5:31:16 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: little jeremiah

They’re about being alive in 4 years or not being alive in 4 years.
***It’s an overblown fear. Take the high road.


304 posted on 08/16/2012 5:32:21 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

I’m sorry you think my (and many others’) concerns are irrational. I’m sure plenty of Jews in Germany never thought things would get as bad as they did, either.


305 posted on 08/16/2012 6:19:54 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kevmo

You refuse to vote for a “lying statist” but refuse to acknowledge the number of them that are long standing members of this forum....interesting.


306 posted on 08/16/2012 6:25:54 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: Jim Robinson

Gideon’s 300!

Forgive us, Lord, where we’ve sinned, and in the renewal You promise us, lead us in paths of righteousness that will be as “a brand plucked from the burning!”

Rebellion

Resistance

Amen.


307 posted on 08/16/2012 6:30:52 PM PDT by xzins (Vote Goode Not Evil: The lesser of 2 evils is still evil!)
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To: xzins

Amen, brother.


308 posted on 08/16/2012 6:41:33 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: little jeremiah

Let him try. Unlike the Jews in Nazi Germany, we are armed to the teeth.


309 posted on 08/16/2012 6:43:54 PM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Jim Robinson

That is a great consolation and I do think that resistance will happen, should such attempts be made; plus I hope that there are enough with courage and conscience in the fedgov and especially the military, who will remember their oaths and not serve a tyrant who issues such orders.


310 posted on 08/16/2012 7:00:21 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Kevmo; little jeremiah
And in the long run, it was the smart thing to do, Kevmo. If more people did it, we'd be better off.

Every ounce of common sense rebels at Romney. Voting for liberals guarantees a bad outcome -- it's an immutable fact of politics. The most constructive thing I can do in O vs R is vote for a plurality. Not because I figure whatever third-party candidate I vote for will win, but because I know every third party vote counts against a mandate for the winner and weakens his cause. As far as I'm concerned, a plurality "win" is more important than that Romney win, though in any case, my vote will have no say in O v R. It's a crap shoot as to who wins, but conservatives will have a victory if that liberal is elected on a plurality.

311 posted on 08/16/2012 7:57:52 PM PDT by Finny (A deal with the devil is ALWAYS a losing proposition. Voting for Romney to avoid Obama is just that.)
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To: Gabz

You refuse to vote for a “lying statist” but refuse to acknowledge the number of them that are long standing members of this forum....interesting.
***No, that is not true. If you look through my posts I’ve been saying that basically a bunch of republicans started showing up in 2000, then 2004, then 2008. Many of them are CINOs, basically loyal to the republican cause but not really to conservatism. Now the conservatives are outnumbered by CINOs.

From my home page...

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I would like to see an idealogy litmus matrix here on Free Republic, but when I proposed it to Jimrob, he called me a newbie.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: babygene I don’t think he’s all that interested.
To: MHGinTN It doesn’t matter what a FReeper thinks. It’s just a list that they tell us what they think. That way we can tell who we’re dealing with.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145065/posts?page=130#130
To: Jim Robinson Hah hah, that’s great. I signed up 2 months after you and I’m a newbie. Back then no one even said, “Welcome to FR”. But yeah, I do think that there are tons of RINOs. To be more accurate, the term would be CINOs.
I’ve been pushing for an idealogical litmus matrix here on FR, not to get rid of RINOs but to expose them.
THE GOP DOESN’T WANT US- SO WHAT’S NEXT?

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1965735/posts?page=762#762
***It simply takes too long. Look at this thread alone. I see evidence of RINOism in some of the FReepers on this thread. It takes 700 posts to drill down. We need the matrix posted and available so that we don’t have to drill down on every FReeping thread. They’re wasting our time. Deliberately.

Agreed to a large degree. Perhaps a way to rate members by other members???
762 posted on Thursday, February 07, 2008 8:43:23 PM by roamer_1
130 posted on Monday, December 08, 2008 2:39:20 PM by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
49 posted on Monday, December 22, 2008 7:29:27 PM by Kevmo ( It’s all over for this Country as a Constitutional Republic. ~Leo Donofrio, 12/14/08)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 46 | View Replies] 48 posted on Thursday, November 26, 2009 10:25:08 PM by Kevmo (So America gets what America deserves - the destruction of its Constitution. ~Leo Donofrio, 6/1/09)

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312 posted on 08/16/2012 9:47:17 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: little jeremiah

plus I hope that there are enough with courage and conscience in the fedgov and especially the military, who will remember their oaths and not serve a tyrant who issues such orders.
***Then go with your hope rather than your fear. Take the high road.


313 posted on 08/16/2012 9:50:13 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: little jeremiah

If you honestly think we are ~4 years away from NAZI level totalitarianism, what else are you doing? Are you stocking up foodstores, ammunition, guns, medical supplies? My guess is no. There are currently hundreds of freepers utilizing exactly the same fear as an argumentation tactic, when they really do not have that fear at all. It is an exaggerated fear, utilized as a form of argumentation. The problem with arguing from fear is that it’s basically cowardice. Try not to go there. Try to proceed from courage rather than cowardice. You already ARE proceeding from courage if you aint stocking up, getting a bunch of guns & selling your properties. So, why bring the cowardice to Free Republic when it doesn’t really exist in your own daily life? Take the high road. Embrace courage. With courage, there are no regrets.


314 posted on 08/16/2012 9:57:00 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Kevmo

I am not making my comments as a tactic. Up until some days ago I vowed I would not vote for Rombag. I changed my mind, and the primary reason was realizing more how extremely dangerous Zero is.

It is not cowardice to realize the extreme danger of a situation. It is rational. As far as being prepared for prolonged Troubles, I’m probably as prepared as most people who take such things seriously, considering that I am dirt poor. I could eat the boring staples that I have on hand for a year without going to the store, and have other basic measures covered. It’s cheaper in the long run anyway.

I don’t see why you think I am exaggerating. Seriously bad collapses of law and order, and tyranny, and mass deaths, have happened throughout history, with a lot in the 20th century. Why would we be immune, when we have all the ingredients, and now a stealth criminal in the WH? Who is a marxist since Occidental, a racist, a muzzie, and put in place by a gang of criminals such as Ayers, who are dangerous radicals?

You think it’s all just talk and smoke? They mean it.

People thought Hitler was a funny little man who didn’t mean what he said.


315 posted on 08/16/2012 10:12:06 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: little jeremiah

I don’t see why you think I am exaggerating. Seriously bad collapses ... have happened throughout history, with a lot in the 20th century.
***As a ferinstance, there is the Great Depression. It happened on Hoover’s watch, and it damaged republicanism for decades. If we knew ahead of time that such a thing were coming, it would make sense to get it to happen on a democrat’s watch and let the damage ensue for decades. Great Depression II should happen on Obama’s watch.

People thought Hitler was a funny little man who didn’t mean what he said.
***Well, I know you’re not a christian but the antichrist is coming, maybe even soon. He will make Hitler look like a silly school girl in comparison. So if Obama is the antichrist, let it happen as the bible says it will happen. But he doesn’t quite fit the bill... he’s too stupid; so I’m willing to let Great Depression II fall on him. Plus, Matthew 24 is not fulfilled yet. Try to take comfort in that, don’t let fear overtake you... proceed from hope rather than fear.


316 posted on 08/16/2012 10:32:55 PM PDT by Kevmo ( FRINAGOPWIASS: Free Republic Is Not A GOP Website. It's A Socon Site.)
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To: Sherri
You are one sick,twisted individual!

WHY sayest thou this?

http://www.google.com/search?q=israeli+women+soldiers&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-us:IE-SearchBox&rlz=1I7ADRA_enUS475&prmd=imvnsu&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=9jAuUIOhDKXDygGo_YHoBg&ved=0CEoQ_AUoAQ&biw=1093&bih=457

Would you say this if BOYS were the gun holders instead of GIRLS??

317 posted on 08/17/2012 4:56:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Repub4bush
I am a Christian and my God loves me, My God doesn’t like hate!!!

OPRAH!!

How's that new tv deal workin' out?

318 posted on 08/17/2012 5:00:32 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Show me where in the bible I can find references to Joseph Smith or any of his works.

Why; right HERE in the 'corrected' KJV; the JST; done by the power of GOD Hisself!!


Just LOOK at all the JOSEPH stuff in it!


Let's compare GENESIS
 
 
 
King James Version
 
 
Genesis 50:24–26

24And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die: and God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land unto the land which he sware to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob.

25And Joseph took an oath of the children of Israel, saying, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.

26So Joseph died, being an hundred and ten years old: and they embalmed him, and he was put in a coffin in Egypt.

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Joseph Smith Translation
 
Genesis 50:24–38

24 And Joseph said unto his brethren, I die, and go unto my fathers; and I go down to my grave with joy. The God of my father Jacob be with you, to deliver you out of affliction in the days of your bondage; for the Lord hath visited me, and I have obtained a promise of the Lord, that out of the fruit of my loins, the Lord God will raise up a righteous branch out of my loins; and unto thee, whom my father Jacob hath named Israel, a prophet; (not the Messiah who is called Shilo;) and this prophet shall deliver my people out of Egypt in the days of thy bondage.

25 And it shall come to pass that they shall be scattered again; and a branch shall be broken off, and shall be carried into a far country; nevertheless they shall be remembered in the covenants of the Lord, when the Messiah cometh; for he shall be made manifest unto them in the latter days, in the Spirit of power; and shall bring them out of darkness into light; out of hidden darkness, and out of captivity unto freedom.

26 A seer shall the Lord my God raise up, who shall be a choice seer unto the fruit of my loins.

27 Thus saith the Lord God of my fathers unto me, A choice seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and he shall be esteemed highly among the fruit of thy loins; and unto him will I give commandment that he shall do a work for the fruit of thy loins, his brethren.

28 And he shall bring them to the knowledge of the covenants which I have made with thy fathers; and he shall do whatsoever work I shall command him.

29 And I will make him great in mine eyes, for he shall do my work; and he shall be great like unto him whom I have said I would raise up unto you, to deliver my people, O house of Israel, out of the land of Egypt; for a seer will I raise up to deliver my people out of the land of Egypt; and he shall be called Moses. And by this name he shall know that he is of thy house; for he shall be nursed by the king’s daughter, and shall be called her son.

30 And again, a seer will I raise up out of the fruit of thy loins, and unto him will I give power to bring forth my word unto the seed of thy loins; and not to the bringing forth of my word only, saith the Lord, but to the convincing them of my word, which shall have already gone forth among them in the last days;

31 Wherefore the fruit of thy loins shall write, and the fruit of the loins of Judah shall write; and that which shall be written by the fruit of thy loins, and also that which shall be written by the fruit of the loins of Judah, shall grow together unto the confounding of false doctrines, and laying down of contentions, and establishing peace among the fruit of thy loins, and bringing them to a knowledge of their fathers in the latter days; and also to the knowledge of my covenants, saith the Lord.

32 And out of weakness shall he be made strong, in that day when my work shall go forth among all my people, which shall restore them, who are of the house of Israel, in the last days.

33 And that seer will I bless, and they that seek to destroy him shall be confounded; for this promise I give unto you; for I will remember you from generation to generation; and his name shall be called Joseph, and it shall be after the name of his father; and he shall be like unto you; for the thing which the Lord shall bring forth by his hand shall bring my people unto salvation.

34 And the Lord sware unto Joseph that he would preserve his seed forever, saying, I will raise up Moses, and a rod shall be in his hand, and he shall gather together my people, and he shall lead them as a flock, and he shall smite the waters of the Red Sea with his rod.

35 And he shall have judgment, and shall write the word of the Lord. And he shall not speak many words, for I will write unto him my law by the finger of mine own hand. And I will make a spokesman for him, and his name shall be called Aaron.

36 And it shall be done unto thee in the last days also, even as I have sworn. Therefore, Joseph said unto his brethren, God will surely visit you, and bring you out of this land, unto the land which he sware unto Abraham, and unto Isaac, and to Jacob.

37 And Joseph confirmed many other things unto his brethren, and took an oath of the children of Israel, saying unto them, God will surely visit you, and ye shall carry up my bones from hence.

38 So Joseph died when he was an hundred and ten years old; and they embalmed him, and they put him in a coffin in Egypt; and he was kept from burial by the children of Israel, that he might be carried up and laid in the sepulchre with his father. And thus they remembered the oath which they sware unto him.


319 posted on 08/17/2012 5:03:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo
I wonder what your posts would read like if you had more bran in your diet.

Or braIn in the head.

320 posted on 08/17/2012 5:06:16 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo
Maybe God is calling us to be more focused on our citizenship in His kingdom rather than our citizenship here.

Maybe??

MAYBE??!?!?!?





Are you still killing your unborn?

-- GOD


 

321 posted on 08/17/2012 5:08:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kevmo

There SHOULD be!


322 posted on 08/17/2012 5:09:57 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: little jeremiah
I’m sure plenty of Jews in Germany never thought things would get as bad as they did, either.

Or American fetuses; either...

323 posted on 08/17/2012 5:11:04 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Jim Robinson
181 posted on Tue Aug 14 2012 21:04:39 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Jim Robinson: “Some of these so-called anti Mormons have been posting here since the very beginning and criticizing Mormonism the whole time here. It’s not new and I’m not going to ban them now simply due to the fact that a Mormon is the presumptuous, er, presumptive nominee. Christians have just as much right to state their mind as anyone else. And I’ve stated ever since the beginning of FR, that I’m very biased toward God and our traditional Judeo-Christian values and teachings. I’m not going to demand that Christians cannot criticize false teachings on FR. My dear sainted mother, God rest her soul, would roll over in her grave if I did. If this point causes the downfall of FR as some of our detractors pray, then so be it. My soul is more important to me than my politics.”

Thank you for saying this, Jim.

I think there are two different agendas at work.

The first involves pro-Romney people who are fighting for their candidate and trying to damage the opposition. I don't agree with them but I can't blame them. Political activity is a full-contact sport.

The second agenda is more sinister. Some people are trying to silence those who oppose Mormonism.

The only reason I can think of to vote for Romney is that he's better than Obama. Since my state could easily be a swing state I may end up doing that myself. Jim has already said that he's only one vote and he's not trying to tell the rest of us how to vote.

But to those who wants to silence critics of Mormonism because Mitt Romney is the presumptive Republican nominee — have you guys lost your marbles? Mormons are a tiny percentage of America and nearly everyone who is a seriously committed Christian conservative views them as a cult.

Efforts by Romney supporters to get Free Republic to stop attacking their candidate could easily have been expected. Romney met with representatives of Red State and other conservative anti-Romney internet blogs after he locked up the nomination, and I think we all knew that once Jim Robinson decided he wasn't going to change his opposition, there would be organized efforts to marginalize Free Republic.

But trying to get an anti-Romney website to ban opponents of Mormonism who have been posting against Mormonism for more than a decade? That's crazy talk. It makes no political sense. The only way to explain it is that Mormon “true believers” must feel religiously obligated to attack Free Republic regardless of whether it makes any political sense or not.

324 posted on 08/18/2012 5:07:55 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: cripplecreek
247 posted on Wed Aug 15 2012 06:00:12 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by cripplecreek: “Can anyone tell me how this is any better than Chicago Machine behavior?”

It isn't.

But at least the Mormons dress better. Maybe with Mitt Romney as president, ties will go back in fashion and we can avoid seeing some future president wear flip-flops and T-shirts in the oval office.

But personally, I'd take a conservative wearing dirty T-shirts, jeans with holes, and worn-out flip-flops as long as he didn't flip-flop his policies.

325 posted on 08/18/2012 5:46:17 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Repub4bush; Jim Robinson; Jeff Head; wagglebee; Elsie; cripplecreek; vox_freedom; ...
219 posted on Tue Aug 14 2012 21:55:43 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Repub4bush: "I am a Christian and my God loves me, My God doesn’t like hate!!! That is what i see here form so called Christians!"

As a self-described conservative Southern Baptist, you should read these verses from Psalm 139:19-22:

"Surely thou wilt slay the wicked, O God: depart from me therefore, ye bloody men. For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain. Do not I hate them, O Lord, that hate thee? and am not I grieved with those that rise up against thee? I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies."

I'd rather apply that verse to Muslims and liberal atheists than Mormons since they hate the Christian God explicitly and openly, but to say that "God doesn’t like hate" is not biblical.

Conservative Baptists ought to know better.

194 posted on Tue Aug 14 2012 21:21:03 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Repub4bush: “You can't brush Mormon's with a broad brush than you can with my Southern Baptist Brethren! There are bad people of all religions. But you can't brush all mormons with the same brush! I found that out on my own.”

Mormon doctrine is contrary to Scripture on many points. That doesn't mean I hate Mormons, and they can be useful allies on some pro-family issues, but the bottom line is that Mormonism and traditional Christianity cannot both be true. Mormons know that, and Christians who don't are the ones who aren't listening to what Mormons believe.

194 posted on Tue Aug 14 2012 21:21:03 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Repub4bush: “I love Newt, but I am willing to vote for Mitt, because, he has never shown the propensity to govern due to Mormon doctrine!”

That is part of what is so strange about this whole mess. If Mitt Romney had governed more like a conservative Mormon and less like Harry Reid, a lot of conservatives would have been much more willing to support him.

The Mormons need to get their act together. Just as the rise of the Kennedy dynasty empowered liberal Roman Catholics and caused major problems for a generation, a Romney presidency could easily cause serious damage for the reputation of Mormons.

The Mormons need to decide whether they want their public image to be fresh-faced young men who are dedicated to their cause and support traditional family values, or whether they want their public face to be the liberalism of Huntsman, Reid, and Romney.

That's an internal Mormon issue and I don't get a vote. But Mormons like Jeff Head ought to be thinking long and hard about whether Romney is going to do serious long-term damage to their religion. All they need to do is look at what happened to the public reputation of Catholicism once the Kennedy family and “Camelot” became their most prominent public face.

326 posted on 08/18/2012 5:59:27 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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