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Scouts need to hear support for their gay policy, leader says
Baptist Press ^ | Aug 14, 2012 | Frank Cardwel

Posted on 08/14/2012 7:56:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58

IRVING, Texas (BP) -- With 100-plus degree temperatures outside the Boy Scouts of America Museum, the sweating, 7-year-old Cruz Burns couldn't come up with an answer as to why his mom was holding a press conference.

"Is all this stuff the adults are talking about just weird?" the journalist asked the Tiger Cub Scout, while 32-year-old Jennifer Tyrrell continued to make her case for allowing homosexuals to serve in Boy Scouts leadership.

Staring at the ground, tugging at the scarf of his uniform, the little boy nodded, "Yeah."

Burns' participation in an Ohio Cub Scout pack was short-lived. His mother, a lesbian, pulled him from the unit after she was dismissed as its den mother after seven months of service. The local leader who enlisted Tyrrell ignored the long-standing policy that prohibits homosexuals from official roles, telling her instead that it would be fine, Tyrrell said.

But after someone complained to the next level of leadership, the pack was asked to comply with Boy Scouts of America (BSA) standards and removed Tyrrell from her post. Homosexual parents may accompany their kids to scout meetings or show support, but the leadership limitation stands, the BSA said, recognizing that many parents do not want their children led by homosexuals in an organization that promotes character qualities often associated with Judeo-Christian principles.

"The Boy Scouts of America treats everyone with courtesy and respect," BSA spokesperson Deron Smith said, after giving Tyrrell about half an hour to speak with scout officials in the July meeting.

"Today, representatives from the BSA accepted an online petition from Jennifer Tyrrell and her family," he said, noting it was the second time the Ohio woman had delivered petitions to the 102-year-old organization. "The BSA values the freedom of everyone to express their opinion and believes to disagree does not mean to disrespect."

A few protesters standing on the edge of BSA property argued for Christian family values. Long-time Southern Baptist Scout R. Chip Turner of Fort Worth, Texas, wasn't surprised by the small show of support for the BSA. He serves as chairman of BSA religious relationships.

"Opponents to these policies are relentless and highly vocal," Turner said. "Unfortunately, the silent majority remains largely unheard."

The U.S. Supreme Court in June 2000 upheld the Scouts' membership policy as constitutional.

Tyrrell praised BSA as "a huge cultural institution in America.

"It just has this one policy that is outdated and needs to be changed," she said. "... Really, as a parent, we just want to be involved in our kids' lives. He shouldn't have to live with this."

Independent Baptists from Mansfield, Texas, hoisted signs applauding the BSA decision as "a stand for biblical morality" and "that which is normal." Joined by three laymen from his church, pastor Joey Faust spoke of another organization with Christian roots, recalling the influence of the YMCA on his own life as he received "a good, moral foundation" as a camper and later as a counselor.

Whether the YMCA remains as committed to those foundational principles as do the scouts Faust couldn't say. For now, his concern is for the Boy Scouts of America to remain true to its convictions.

Turner, past national president of the Association of Baptists for Scouting, hopes Southern Baptist churches and members will send statements to BSA affirming the group's moral and ethical commitments.

"The Boy Scouts of America remain committed to the moral and ethical standards which have been affirmed several times in Southern Baptist Convention resolutions," he said. "Scouting remains one of the finest evangelism, family ministry and religious education tools available for established churches as well as new church plants. Scouts and their families involved in the religious emblems program are often reached for Christ and it is not uncommon for youth participants to clarify their calling to vocational ministry."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Extended News
KEYWORDS: bsa; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexualagenda; jerrysandusky; nambla; pedophiles; sodomhusseinobama
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To: Graybeard58

That link is the 1994 debate with Ted K


21 posted on 08/14/2012 8:44:08 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: Graybeard58
Sure! Here's another article dated August 25, 1994, entitled "Romney: I'll be better than Ted for gay rights."
22 posted on 08/14/2012 8:44:56 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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To: Tennessee Nana
In 1994 Willard was on the board of the Boy Scouts of America...

Not very effective in changing the policies of groups with core values is he?

23 posted on 08/14/2012 8:47:45 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: Graybeard58

Yes, Romney stands firmly behind the queer boy scout leaders.

Back when he was working on the Salt Lake Olympics, he was also a board member of the national Boy Scouts of America. He expressed his belief that everyone including gay children and adults, should be allowed to participate in the Boy Scouts. Although he said the BSA had a right to decide for itself.

He then banned the Boy Scouts from working on the Olympics which was the first time they had ever been restricted from serving at the Olympic games in the US.

He recently reiterated his previous stand. He is for both queer adults as leaders and queer boys as participants.


24 posted on 08/14/2012 8:48:34 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: Graybeard58
I'd like to know what Romney thinks on the matter of queers serving as scout leaders.

Because that's the most pressing issue whether to vote for Romney or the dog eating communist Obama. Obama will be glad to get your vote, and the progressives will thank you for helping them destroy the country.

25 posted on 08/14/2012 8:50:46 PM PDT by Domandred (Fdisk, format, and reinstall the entire .gov system.)
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To: Graybeard58

There’s a gay boy scout group called “Scouting For All”:

http://www.scoutingforall.org/data/home.html


26 posted on 08/14/2012 8:53:43 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Graybeard58
Romney is a proud Homosexualist.

And he now is the standard bearer of the "conservative" party.

I never thought I would see this in my lifetime.

27 posted on 08/14/2012 8:57:27 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Graybeard58

Romney: The Boy Scouts should admit homosexuals
8/7/2012

Mitt Romney stands by a 1994 statement that the Boy Scouts of America (BSA) should admit homosexuals to the organization, as members or adult supervisors, according to a campaign spokesperson.

During a 1994 debate with Ted Kennedy, Romney said, “I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue. I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation.”

Campaign spokeswoman Andrea Saul confirmed that Mitt Romney continues to hold that belief today. (snip)
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2915967/posts


28 posted on 08/14/2012 9:00:16 PM PDT by donna (Republicans wont change their ways until conservatives draw the line.)
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To: Graybeard58

Here are some websites with info:

http://cnsnews.com/news/article/romney-says-boy-scouts-should-admit-homosexuals

http://www.christianpost.com/news/romney-obama-both-disagree-with-boy-scouts-gay-leader-ban-79716/


29 posted on 08/14/2012 9:00:47 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: Graybeard58

Why can’t they just start the queer scouts???

I am a boy scout.. (well.. an old one now) They had better stand up to this as they have been doing for a while now.


30 posted on 08/14/2012 9:01:39 PM PDT by cableguymn
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To: Last Dakotan
No father and a lesbian mother who is willing to use him as a prop for political points. All the counseling in the world isn't going to give him his childhood back.

This must be the definition of cruel & unusual punishment.

31 posted on 08/14/2012 9:01:53 PM PDT by Digger (If RINO is your selection then failure is your election)
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To: Linda Frances
Discimination is not ok. Hate is not ok. And there is no “GOD” that will ever tell you that it is.

I love these "free thinkers"! First of all, we discriminate all the time--in the things we buy, the friends we hang out with, the neighborhood we choose to live in, etc. It's generally called "common sense". Secondly, if you're going to define God, doesn't that make you God? If so, why don't you just plague us "haters" with some locusts or something...?

32 posted on 08/14/2012 9:04:44 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Graybeard58
And here is the beautiful 32 year old Ms. Terrell who no doubt is a straight woman, right? She looks like Mr. Rachel Madcows big brother.

Here she is giving the Hitler salute in a Queer Pride parade with openly queer Star Trek actor George Takei. She's a bull dyke.


33 posted on 08/14/2012 9:10:42 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Graybeard58

Hmmm, I’m a bit on the fence here.

Glad they keep the fags out, but cannot support their intolerance of Atheist.

Was a member way back when, but boycott them now as I have come to have my own values and belief’s which they discriminate against.

Seems they do not really support freedom OF religion if they do not accept freedom FROM religion as a valid right.

Just like a lot of Freepers! ;-)


34 posted on 08/14/2012 9:13:05 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Domandred
I;m pretty involved with the scouts and have been through all their training etc. and they never push an anti gay agenda. The simple fact is that they pay out tens of million per year in lawsuits because of gay fathers molesting kids and weeding them out has saved us tens of millions per year.

If the gay agenda is accepted the first ones filing a lawsuits will be the liberal parents when a gay father helps their kid pull up their pants on a campout!

35 posted on 08/14/2012 9:13:55 PM PDT by america-rules
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To: randog

It is bad enough having homosexual leaders and boys in the Boy Scouts..but to have ones who are acknowledge is even worse.
How do you assign who sleeps in what tent? Do you dare put younger boys with an acknowledge homosexual patrol leader?
I had trouble with homo leaders when I was a scout and trouble with homo kids when I was a scout master. Once you identified them..they had to be excluded..because you couldn’t trust them not to victimize the younger boys. Person experience colors my opinion.


36 posted on 08/14/2012 9:13:56 PM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
Which one is Takei and which one is Tyrrell?

5.56mm

37 posted on 08/14/2012 9:15:04 PM PDT by M Kehoe
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To: Graybeard58

I love how Terrell wants to destroy the culture of an organization she calls a “cultural institution” by changing one “little outdated policy”. Change that policy to approve of homosexuality and there goes your God-based scouting core and structure. The fall would be swift and dramatic as soon as the Boy Scouts allow homosexuals.

I fear they will succumb to the pressure sooner than later, and that will be it.

The way the USA has been going, the Boy Scouts is one of the only places left that instills noble core values in young men. And THAT is why the communists need to destroy it by insisting on getting the homosexual camel’s nose in the tent. They will never quit this fight.


38 posted on 08/14/2012 9:17:20 PM PDT by Freedom_Is_Not_Free (REPEAL OBAMACARE. Nothing else matters.)
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To: Oldexpat
I had trouble with homo leaders when I was a scout...

Same here. Two to be exact, and both ended up going to prison later for child molestation. "But for the grace of God" I said after finding out.

39 posted on 08/14/2012 9:21:39 PM PDT by randog (Tap into America!)
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To: Graybeard58
Would God honor someone determined to leave Him out of our national debate — by sparing our country simply because voters preferred him over similarly "godless" Barack Obama?...

Mitt has done literally nothing to lead out this election...in turning our morally-declining nation back to God, or toward increased faith in Him and His biblical teachings and promises... [but instead] toward the materialistic values at the heart of Marxist socialism — the notion that all important things come down to "economics," and to socialistic, forcible solutions to mankind's most basic ills...

To vote for Mitt is to assent to such a far-reaching, unconscionably evil deed as he committed by singlehandedly establishing gay marriage, as though it were nothing of consequence, when in reality it is arguably the most wicked and destructive discretionary action ever taken by an elected official in our nation's 230-year history — undermining the stability, and continuance, of Western Civilization itself. --Steve Stone, editor (and former LDS member), RenewAmerica
I don't think Mr. Stone (who has written a great deal on this topic) plans on voting the Romney/Ryan ticket in November. :)
40 posted on 08/14/2012 9:25:19 PM PDT by mlizzy (And if we accept that a mother can kill even her own child, how can we tell others not to kill? --MT)
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