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Scouts need to hear support for their gay policy, leader says
Baptist Press ^ | Aug 14, 2012 | Frank Cardwel

Posted on 08/14/2012 7:56:57 PM PDT by Graybeard58

IRVING, Texas (BP) -- With 100-plus degree temperatures outside the Boy Scouts of America Museum, the sweating, 7-year-old Cruz Burns couldn't come up with an answer as to why his mom was holding a press conference.

"Is all this stuff the adults are talking about just weird?" the journalist asked the Tiger Cub Scout, while 32-year-old Jennifer Tyrrell continued to make her case for allowing homosexuals to serve in Boy Scouts leadership.

Staring at the ground, tugging at the scarf of his uniform, the little boy nodded, "Yeah."

Burns' participation in an Ohio Cub Scout pack was short-lived. His mother, a lesbian, pulled him from the unit after she was dismissed as its den mother after seven months of service. The local leader who enlisted Tyrrell ignored the long-standing policy that prohibits homosexuals from official roles, telling her instead that it would be fine, Tyrrell said.

But after someone complained to the next level of leadership, the pack was asked to comply with Boy Scouts of America (BSA) standards and removed Tyrrell from her post. Homosexual parents may accompany their kids to scout meetings or show support, but the leadership limitation stands, the BSA said, recognizing that many parents do not want their children led by homosexuals in an organization that promotes character qualities often associated with Judeo-Christian principles.

"The Boy Scouts of America treats everyone with courtesy and respect," BSA spokesperson Deron Smith said, after giving Tyrrell about half an hour to speak with scout officials in the July meeting.

"Today, representatives from the BSA accepted an online petition from Jennifer Tyrrell and her family," he said, noting it was the second time the Ohio woman had delivered petitions to the 102-year-old organization. "The BSA values the freedom of everyone to express their opinion and believes to disagree does not mean to disrespect."

A few protesters standing on the edge of BSA property argued for Christian family values. Long-time Southern Baptist Scout R. Chip Turner of Fort Worth, Texas, wasn't surprised by the small show of support for the BSA. He serves as chairman of BSA religious relationships.

"Opponents to these policies are relentless and highly vocal," Turner said. "Unfortunately, the silent majority remains largely unheard."

The U.S. Supreme Court in June 2000 upheld the Scouts' membership policy as constitutional.

Tyrrell praised BSA as "a huge cultural institution in America.

"It just has this one policy that is outdated and needs to be changed," she said. "... Really, as a parent, we just want to be involved in our kids' lives. He shouldn't have to live with this."

Independent Baptists from Mansfield, Texas, hoisted signs applauding the BSA decision as "a stand for biblical morality" and "that which is normal." Joined by three laymen from his church, pastor Joey Faust spoke of another organization with Christian roots, recalling the influence of the YMCA on his own life as he received "a good, moral foundation" as a camper and later as a counselor.

Whether the YMCA remains as committed to those foundational principles as do the scouts Faust couldn't say. For now, his concern is for the Boy Scouts of America to remain true to its convictions.

Turner, past national president of the Association of Baptists for Scouting, hopes Southern Baptist churches and members will send statements to BSA affirming the group's moral and ethical commitments.

"The Boy Scouts of America remain committed to the moral and ethical standards which have been affirmed several times in Southern Baptist Convention resolutions," he said. "Scouting remains one of the finest evangelism, family ministry and religious education tools available for established churches as well as new church plants. Scouts and their families involved in the religious emblems program are often reached for Christ and it is not uncommon for youth participants to clarify their calling to vocational ministry."


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KEYWORDS: bsa; gaystapo; homofascists; homosexualagenda; jerrysandusky; nambla; pedophiles; sodomhusseinobama
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To: Loyal Sedition
Seems they do not really support freedom OF religion if they do not accept freedom FROM religion as a valid right.

Freedom FROM religion? Valid right?!

What other "rights" does your crystal ball find in the Constitution?

41 posted on 08/14/2012 9:31:04 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Loyal Sedition

Godless atheists are lower even than fags.


42 posted on 08/14/2012 9:37:47 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Loyal Sedition
"Glad they keep the fags out, but cannot support their intolerance of Atheist."

Yea, and I want to go to the local Synagogue and administer Holly Communion. /s

You talk just like a liberal, troll.

43 posted on 08/14/2012 9:40:24 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Study the homosexual who founded the Boy Scouts in Germany-—he used the forest for his orgies with the boys-—their groups morphed into the Hitler Youth with rise of the Nazis.

Hitler put his pederast buddies as head of the Hitler Youth to bring boys for his homosexual orgies with the SA Brownshirts.

Satanic/occultists are homosexuals and they always use boys-—target the boys-—they have to recruit and corrupt the boys while forming their sexual identity and morality. Besides, they are perverted-—fixated in an immature stage when they were molested and abused.

Read Pink Swastika for their game plan or listen to Ann Barnhardt who also lays out their plan. Harry Hays was a Communist (who founded the homosexual movement in the US—he was sodomized by a sailor when he was 11 (and he liked it) and he backed NAMBLA—as did H. Milk. They want the boys-—like Sandusky-—who was probably in a homosexual sex ring also—they say he took plane trips (now) with “donor” of the Second Mile and they were raping boys on the plane.

Hollywood Producers raped the two Corey actors when they were boys—Corey Feldmen stated that Hollywood was made up of a bunch of pedophiles. Hollywood is sexualizing children-—been pushing homosexuality as “normal” and “genetic” (lies) since Will and Grace and they WANT the boys. Jerry Brown now is implementing Sex Ed to teach Kindergarteners about anal sex now. This will corrupt their innocence and put perverse ideas into their young heads. It will destroy any Christian Ethics in the home and undermine father son relationships (which is their hope). Boys with no fathers are easy marks because they yearn for a father-figure and that attention that they so desperately need to become a mature man.

This “lifestyle” has been going on in all societies and only condemned by the Jews and then the Christians. Everyone needs to study this issue. Pederasty is normal in Afghanistan and other countries.

The topic is UGLY, I know-—I raised four boys and had to be really up on this issue-—ran into some homosexuals (because they were lauded in our culture and “special” because they indulge in “sodomy”/Vice (how rational is that????) But, he ended up in San Quentin.

The “trick” is to have young children exposed to men kissing and other obscene ideas-—so it is normalized. Children accept “normal” and “good” by what the culture portrays as “normal” and “good”. It is why slavery took generations to get rid of the idea it was good. Read the comments below this video....it is all disturbing-—but they want to normalize this behavior to make the muslims feel comfortable and be islam to be legal—all aspects-— when Sharia comes to the US—(oh, it is already here).

EVeryone in Boy Scouts should have to WATCH this video and any “Man” that wants to allow ANY homosexual near the boys (even boys)-—is evil. Really EVIL. Boys are trained and seduced.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLeYbNxPUtQ&feature=related


44 posted on 08/14/2012 9:44:32 PM PDT by savagesusie (Right Reason According to Nature = Just Law)
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To: Freedom_Is_Not_Free
They can always start their own scouting organization.

Why don't they?

45 posted on 08/14/2012 10:09:53 PM PDT by TheWriterTX (Riding the Long-Wave Economic Contraction, Baby!)
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To: Flycatcher; Tailgunner Joe; DaveTesla

As predictable as clock-work!

Are you all espousing the SAME state religion?
Will you divide the country be religious region or state?

You display the tolerance level of the taliban, complete with insults and personal attacks.

So much for the free exchange of ideas.

If we do not have a right to free from religion, we de-facto have a state religion, it’s just not been formally announced yet.

When do the pogroms against the atheist and unrecognized religions begin?
Will they be a surprise, or announced here first?

Hypocrisy runs rampant tonight.


46 posted on 08/14/2012 10:20:32 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition
You display the tolerance level of the taliban, complete with insults and personal attacks.

I didn't.

Glad to see that you don't either.........

Snort!

47 posted on 08/14/2012 10:32:54 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Loyal Sedition
Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;

That's the VERY FIRST line of the Constitution. So how are these sentences from you possible:

If we do not have a right to free from religion, we de-facto have a state religion, it’s just not been formally announced yet. When do the pogroms against the atheist and unrecognized religions begin? Will they be a surprise, or announced here first?

What is it you hate more: God or our Constitution?

48 posted on 08/14/2012 10:43:41 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Graybeard58
I wish I could find out how I can add my support to the Boy Scouts position.
Sure can't figure it out reading this article.
49 posted on 08/14/2012 10:49:32 PM PDT by publius911 (Formerly Publius 6961, formerly jennsdad)
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To: Flycatcher

LOL!

Yes, first amendment CLEARLY states the prohibition against enactment of a state religion.
If that does not allow and tolerate NO religion, it becomes meaningless as I stated!

I’ve been informed that my strong support for the constitution IS my religion, weather I agree or not.
As “Everyone has a religion, it’s whatever you are most passionate about”.
Will the person who told me that also be persecuted by the Theocracy wing of the “conservative” party?

I always figure those who are so very intolerant of atheism must be insecure in their own belief’s, so have to trumpet them all the louder to reassure themselves.

I don’t hate “God”, that would be irrational, like “hating” the easter bunny or unicorns . (They are fictional too, just in case you did not know)


50 posted on 08/14/2012 10:58:09 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Loyal Sedition
Thanks for that astute, well-written, grammatical post! And thanks for keeping it free of ridiculously false generalizations, sweeping inconsistencies, and broad-brush obtuseness!

It confirms everything I've thought about you.

All good, of course, by the way...

51 posted on 08/14/2012 11:09:19 PM PDT by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: Loyal Sedition
Nobody is making you join the Boy Scouts.

Don't like their anti-progressive policy's?

Whats the matter?
Don't have a local communist party
branch you could join?

52 posted on 08/14/2012 11:10:10 PM PDT by DaveTesla (You can fool some of the people some of the time......)
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To: Flycatcher

I was “Going Green” (Praise GAI! /s), conserving energy with a single post for those ganging up on me, you got caught in the generic blast.


53 posted on 08/14/2012 11:12:08 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: DaveTesla

From the jack-booted intolerance for atheism and a free opinion on display here tonight, it appears THIS site has become the local communist party branch!

Apparently atheism is OK for the very wealthy and certain authors, but not the rest of us.

Nice to know the theocratic state is taking over, at least in the minds of some posters.
I will be watching for the forced conversions as competing factions vie to take complete control.

Hmm, the 21st century is now the new middle ages!


54 posted on 08/14/2012 11:20:38 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Nah, you must be thinking of self-righteous holier than thou extremist.
In which case I agree.

I keep guns less to fend off the foreign militaries and out of control U.SS. government than a forced conversion to some Jim Jones/Billy Graham type cult leader, by any name.


55 posted on 08/14/2012 11:31:24 PM PDT by Loyal Sedition
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To: TheWriterTX
They can always start their own scouting organization. Why don't they?

That's not ever an option for a parasite. They must invade and infect a host.

56 posted on 08/15/2012 1:23:52 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: Loyal Sedition

Well, bye.


57 posted on 08/15/2012 2:02:04 AM PDT by Jim Robinson (Resistance to tyrants is obedience to God!!)
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To: Loyal Sedition; Jim Robinson; 50mm
Now, now...you're trumpeting the arguments of the fictional idea of a "protected class" and are intentionallly confusing the issue of private and public, which are the insideous tactics of a progressive.

It is no secret that this site espouses, and always has, all that you despise as represented in it's creedo.

"Welcome to Free Republic, America's exclusive site for God, Family, Country, Life & Liberty conservatives!"

You should argue your position w/ Jim as to the state of the union of this site, instead of practicing the Alinsky playbook.
58 posted on 08/15/2012 2:09:36 AM PDT by Kaosinla (The More the Plans Fail. The More the Planners Plan.)
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To: fwdude

“That’s not ever an option for a parasite. They must invade and infect a host.”

This is the crux of it. And the reason why the gays won’t stop at civil unions but must invade traditional marriage; why they don’t start their own scouting organization, etc.
Not only due to their parasitic nature, but also their goal: To transform and remake society in their own image.


59 posted on 08/15/2012 5:01:29 AM PDT by scottjewell
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To: Graybeard58

Homosexual scout leaders ... what could possibly go wrong?

60 posted on 08/15/2012 5:06:34 AM PDT by Zakeet (If you don't like abortions, don't get one. If I don't like guns, we should ban them.)
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