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To: TomGuy

You’re gonna laugh. Do you know what a successful appeal on Pennsylvania might be based on?

The Amish. Not a euphemism for “Muslims”, the actual Amish. They refuse to have their pictures taken.


66 posted on 08/15/2012 10:49:55 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Buckeye McFrog
You’re gonna laugh. Do you know what a successful appeal on Pennsylvania might be based on? The Amish. Not a euphemism for “Muslims”, the actual Amish. They refuse to have their pictures taken.

That is interesting.. I wonder if there is a corrupt scumbag Amish Democrat somewhere who would act as "plaintiff" in such an appeal? Do the Amish object to giving fingerprints? If the law allowed for fingerprints in lieu of photo, I bet it would pass muster. Of course, THEN listen to the scumbag Democrats jump up and down and holler!

71 posted on 08/15/2012 1:06:23 PM PDT by Lancey Howard
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To: Buckeye McFrog
. . . the actual Amish. They refuse to have their pictures taken.

It depends. We have a lot of Amish in our part of Pennsylvania. The modern friendly type have no objection to being photographed. Some even go so far as to encourage it as they consider it part of their business promotion. These types might even have a community telephone outside their living areas. The justification being that they are keeping within the spirit of the order as long as it isn't in their home.

We've had some of these types do work for our company in the past. They are very adept with power tools. I asked one about the apparent conflict once. He just smiled and told me there is nothing wrong with using the tools, just with owning them. Some of these Amish actually are registered to vote and do so. You can tell by the returns of certain Amish dominant precincts in this part of the state and the Maryland panhandle, overwhelmingly GOP as you might suspect.

The old order Amish are, of course, a different breed who conform more closely to the notions of the English (that's us, the non-Amish). They won't have a telephone in the neighborhood and they won't be photographed, at least voluntarily. You will find them more to the north and west of us, especially in Ohio, as opposed to those to the south and east of us. They are also not registered to vote and actively discourage such participation among their membership.

They eschew using the law even more than their more modern-friendly counterparts. In fact, really the only times you see the Amish using the law are in religious freedom cases, most of which have been brought at the urging of a handful of honest conservative and good neighbor lawyers either working pro-bono or nearly so. The typical Amish response to an unjust law is to ignore it. Some of them even go voluntarily to jail rather than submit as they consider it a trial of their faith. Smart judges in Amish country understand this and do everything in their power to dismiss such cases on technicalities or let the offenders off with a slap on the wrist.

So if one of the old order types ever gets manufactured to make such appeal, the appropriate counter would be to produce one of the modern-friendly types to counter such B.S.

74 posted on 08/15/2012 2:18:51 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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