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Ryan's immigration shift leaves both left, right uncomfortable
The Hill ^ | 08/16/12 | Mike Lillis

Posted on 08/16/2012 1:14:45 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn

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To: SharpRightTurn
Impeach them ~ if immigration is an issue and these two look like they're going to win against Obama and his running dog lackeys then we need to start the proceedings by January 21, 2013 to get them done in time for final budget processing in late April/early May.

That'll give us time to run elections for a couple of new House members to replace the Speaker and to get a new Vice President lined up (have to fill both positions).

21 posted on 08/16/2012 3:32:19 PM PDT by muawiyah
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To: Patton@Bastogne

Taking over the GOPe is going to take several years but we have the best chance ever of doing just that since the Tea Party vote has become active. Have faith. We need to really focus on the house and senate and state elections. This is just one battle in a long war but we can’t give up after we have come so far.


22 posted on 08/16/2012 3:50:49 PM PDT by penelopesire (TIME FOR A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR!)
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To: Waryone

Send Obama more money, he needs your help to destroy this country.


23 posted on 08/16/2012 4:00:10 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: Yashcheritsiy

Send Obama more money, he needs your help to destroy this country.


24 posted on 08/16/2012 4:01:11 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: sickoflibs

” “If you want somebody who’s pro-amnesty and pro-immigration, he’s in the top 10 percent of Republicans,””

Well, it’s a little late to bring that up, isn’t it? We have what we have. And this is what we’ll keep getting because the general public pays no attention to primaries or issues until they directly impact themselves, and that’s usually too late.

It just happens a little slower with republicans in office because they don’t have the media to push their agenda.

You’re simply witnessing how a nation is lost. That’s all.
Someday you can tell your kids and grandkids how you
witnessed the events and players that destroyed the United States of America. My stupid kids and grandkids don’t care.
Maybe yours will.


25 posted on 08/16/2012 4:18:55 PM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: G Larry

Two socialists don’t make anything right. You keep on dreaming about your socialist. I won’t support either one of them.

Remember, Soros loves the fact that you chosen one of his people.


26 posted on 08/16/2012 4:20:11 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: SharpRightTurn
and with both parties vying for a larger slice of the ever-growing Latino vote —

If Republicans don't stop vying for the Latino vote, they might as well forget it in the long run. They'll never outpander the Dims and pandering puts off and costs votes among the Republican base.

The same message for all voters, or just hang it up after one or two more presidential election cycles.

27 posted on 08/16/2012 4:57:54 PM PDT by Will88
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To: SharpRightTurn

Republicans flip-flop and shift.

Democrats grow and evolve.


28 posted on 08/16/2012 4:59:01 PM PDT by Iron Munro ("Jiggle the Handle for Barry!")
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To: All; SharpRightTurn
While Ryan was onboard, the group famously — critics say infamously — opposed a 1994 California resolution that would have gutted public assistance for illegal immigrants.

And Prop 187 was the last gasp CA GOP had in California. They're a permanently irrelevant minority in the state.

29 posted on 08/16/2012 5:54:43 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 82 days away.)
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To: Waryone

Nothing you’re doing is helping America.


30 posted on 08/16/2012 6:06:17 PM PDT by G Larry (Progressives are Regressive because their objectives devolve to the lowest common denominator.)
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To: G Larry

What the socialists Obama and Romney do won’t help either. They’ll just make things worse. Unfortunately, people in both parties have been deceived.


31 posted on 08/16/2012 6:44:14 PM PDT by Waryone (Definition of insane: nominating the father of socialized medicine to replace socialized medicine)
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To: SharpRightTurn

Open borders and blanket amnesty is straight out of the globalist CFR choir book.

Since the elites of BOTH parties sing the same tune on illegal immigration, Ryan and Romney are revealed as card carrying members of the globalist elite.

Duncan Hunter in 2008 is the only Republican presidential candidate in recent memory that did not sell his mortal soul to the internationalists and globalists.

Our Republic will NOT survive if we continue with open borders and compound that with blanket amnesty.


32 posted on 08/16/2012 6:54:17 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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33 posted on 08/16/2012 9:04:30 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: AuntB
RE :” “If you want somebody who’s pro-amnesty and pro-immigration, he’s in the top 10 percent of Republicans,””
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Well, it’s a little late to bring that up, isn’t it?

You do know when I post italic it means it's a quote from elsewhere? In this case of the above it is the thread post and your words above not my words.

I wouldn't say that it's useless information though. We need to watch these Rs closely.

MSNBC(Democrats) are making Ryan out to be the most extreme conservative known to mankind, In fact both Democrats/ liberal and RINOs here keep telling me how EXTREMELY conservative Ryan is.

34 posted on 08/16/2012 10:27:07 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: AuntB
RE :”And this is what we’ll keep getting because the general public pays no attention to primaries or issues until they directly impact themselves, and that’s usually too late.

That is my point about businesses. They tend to support amnesty and affordable housing programs to bring them more labor competition without worrying about the longer term taxing and regulation consequences.

In fact remember my comments about local citizen home owners uniting in political associations to slow new housing development with local zoning laws? Well it's the same line of thinking. I know Thomas Sowell has an opposite view but he has yet to explain why my taxes skyrocketed after massive housing development moved in the Democats to take over the local government (and fixed the state government as Democrat) helped me or served the cause of freedom long term.

35 posted on 08/16/2012 10:42:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: SharpRightTurn

Who cares? Obama just gave unilateral amnesty to 2 million illegals! Judging by the deafening silence from conservative media, politicians, and voters, we are all OK with it.

Why not a pro-amnesty GOP nominee? The last two were pro-Amnesty as well, do they even make anti-amnesty Republicans these days? Just remove all border security, its a waste of money since its a massive government project that achieves exactly nothing, might as well just charge 10 bucks for entering the US and generate some tax dollars.


36 posted on 08/16/2012 11:34:19 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: sickoflibs

” You do know when I post italic it means it’s a quote from elsewhere? In this case of the above it is the thread post and your words above not my words.”

Oh, good grief, of course I know it! I wasn’t quoting you, was I??? I was quoting Beck...he’s the one who said it, right? Touchy today, sol? lol


37 posted on 08/17/2012 7:52:59 AM PDT by AuntB (Illegal immigration is simply more "share the wealth" socialism and a CRIME not a race!)
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To: AuntB
RE :”Oh, good grief, of course I know it! I wasn’t quoting you, was I??? I was quoting Beck...he’s the one who said it, right? Touchy today, sol? lol

Yep, I was getting some grief here as usual. I was thinking "I know I didn't type that" :)

38 posted on 08/20/2012 12:22:49 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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