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To: hosepipe; Alamo-Girl; betty boop; MrB; TXnMA
The beginning of what?..

The “beginning.” The “Big Bang” (inflation) according to the Mullahs of Science (a concept they would have adamantly rejected less than a century ago, when “everything” was in an eternal “steady state”). We have not a clue what came before the “Big Bang,” but “something” must have (surely). It is at this point in their speculations that the Science Mullahs leave the pure rarified atmosphere of the icy confines of Science and descend into the sordid and murky depths of (P)philosophy and (R)religion (absent the consciousness of an abrupt change of venue – apparently).

With respect to “eternity” and “infinity,” I do not understand the point of trying to place a value on things that are, by definition, measureless (I’ve previously noted a mathematical and philosophical exception). The logical impossibility of a literal “eternity” or “infinity” should be obvious (as A-G illustrates in #108).

112 posted on 08/20/2012 10:03:59 AM PDT by YHAOS (you betcha!)
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To: YHAOS

I heard a great analysis of the eternal, and of origins.

If there was EVER a time in the past when there was ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, what would there be “today”? Nothing, of course.

So, there had to be something. But that “something” could neither be matter or energy, because either could not, according to scientific law, be eternal - they’d go to null or non-existance in the eternal before “now”.

So, that Something had to be Mind. The Eternal Mind, the I Am.


113 posted on 08/20/2012 11:11:22 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter knows whom he's working fors)
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To: YHAOS

[ The “beginning.” The “Big Bang” (inflation) according to the Mullahs of Science ]

I’m not sure there even was a Big Bang... nice Yarn though..
Gives some a base to ride like a trampoline.. or springy bed..
The Big Bang could be a juvenile way of looking at things..
Juveniles so love to jump on beds..

It does take some “faith” to believe that some “GOD THING” could perform telekinesis.. all at once..
And create a Universe out of whatever he/it had to create it out of.. like say; “dark energy”..

The Big Bang looks to me like science fiction...
Which MUST be logical to a human, reality has no need to be logical to humans..


120 posted on 08/20/2012 2:09:10 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: YHAOS
The “beginning.” The “Big Bang” (inflation) according to the Mullahs of Science (a concept they would have adamantly rejected less than a century ago, when “everything” was in an eternal “steady state”). We have not a clue what came before the “Big Bang,” but “something” must have (surely). It is at this point in their speculations that the Science Mullahs leave the pure rarified atmosphere of the icy confines of Science and descend into the sordid and murky depths of (P)philosophy and (R)religion (absent the consciousness of an abrupt change of venue – apparently).

Well and truly said, dear YHAOS! Thank you for sharing your insights!

128 posted on 08/20/2012 9:51:40 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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