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British schools drop Holocaust from history lessons so as not to offend Muslims
Hot Air ^ | August 17, 2012 | Howard Portnoy

Posted on 08/18/2012 12:40:31 PM PDT by george76

A new report by Britain’s Department for Education and Skills notes that an increasing number of schools are dropping the teaching of the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim students.

The report, titled Teaching Emotive and Controversial History, also observes that many teachers are reluctant to discuss the Crusades because the lessons frequently contradict what is taught in local mosques...

30 non-Muslim children at an elementary school in Scotland were required to visit a mosque in Glasgow, where they were instructed to recite the shahada, the Islam declaration of faith, which states, “There is no god but Allah and Mohammed is his messenger.” In addition, Muslim leaders are demanding that Islamic preachers be sent to every school in Scotland to teach children about Islam

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; britainschools; britishschools; crusades; holocaust; indoctrination; islam; islamicimperialism; lifeamongthekufir; littleredschoolhouse; mosqueandstate; muslims; reeducationcenter; revisionisthistory; scotland; snopes; snopesisbiased; thecrusades; theholocaust; thereisnoenglandnow; ukmuslims; waronterror
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To: mupcat

41 posted on 08/18/2012 2:34:35 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: mortal19440; Stepan12; JustTheTruth; Thom Pain; who_would_fardels_bear; ColdOne; george76; tet68; ..

This story is a hoax.

It first surfaced three or four years ago. And in fact this is the third of fourth FR thread that I can remember. And no doubt it will appear in 2013. And 2014. Why it keeps resurfacing, like the ‘Muhammed is no 1 name in the UK’ myth, is strange.

The initial story was/is based on unverified claims from American bloggers regarding, as another poster pointed out, ONE school. None of the major UK newspapers could find any proof that Holocaust teachings are being axed.

Let me make it clear to you: Holocaust teaching in British schools is COMPULSARY. It CANNOT be axed. It is a major part of history teaching in secondary (aged 12-16/17/18) schools in the UK. It is part of the National Cirriculum. England/Wales, Scotland, NI.

So this story is a nonsense.

Any school that refused to teach it is breaking teaching regulations and the law. Any headmaster or teacher that refuses to teach it can be sacked.

Donr believe frankly half of what you read about the UK on here. Most of it is crap.


42 posted on 08/18/2012 2:35:12 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: mortal19440; Stepan12; JustTheTruth; Thom Pain; who_would_fardels_bear; ColdOne; george76; tet68; ..

This story is a hoax.

It first surfaced three or four years ago. And in fact this is the third of fourth FR thread that I can remember. And no doubt it will appear in 2013. And 2014. Why it keeps resurfacing, like the ‘Muhammed is no 1 name in the UK’ myth, is strange.

The initial story was/is based on unverified claims from American bloggers regarding, as another poster pointed out, ONE school. None of the major UK newspapers could find any proof that Holocaust teachings are being axed.

Let me make it clear to you: Holocaust teaching in British schools is COMPULSARY. It CANNOT be axed. It is a major part of history teaching in secondary (aged 12-16/17/18) schools in the UK. It is part of the National Cirriculum. England/Wales, Scotland, NI.

So this story is a nonsense.

Any school that refused to teach it is breaking teaching regulations and the law. Any headmaster or teacher that refuses to teach it can be sacked.

Dont believe frankly half of what you read about the UK on here. Most of it is crap.


43 posted on 08/18/2012 2:35:29 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

UKIP is a fine, peaceful party. A proper conservative party.

The EDL and BNP are not. They are, esp the BNP, parties/groups who espouse racism, antisemitism and have links to hooligans and far right UK neo-nazi groups like Combat 18.

The EDL esp, here seem to be heroes. The minority of Freepers like Vanders 9 and myself who are British have tried to disabuse Freepers of the starry eyed notions they have of the EDL.


44 posted on 08/18/2012 2:39:18 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: george76

Thanks, interesting.


45 posted on 08/18/2012 2:40:51 PM PDT by mupcat
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To: az_gila

Its a Muslim website for Scottish Muslims(who are 0.4% of the pop btw). No different to any other religuous website.
Certainly not an extreme website.


46 posted on 08/18/2012 2:41:16 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: george76

The teacher was suspended. I might add that this was one rather stupid teacher, not a policy.

‘Teacher suspended for ‘punishing children who did not pray to Allah’

By Daily Telegraph reporter
08/07/2008

A teacher has been suspended amid claims she punished two children who refused to worship Allah during a Religious Education lesson.

Alison Phillips, head (!) of RE at Cheshire’s respected Alsager High School, allegedly disciplined the Year 7 duo claiming they were disrespectful for refusing to kneel down and pray.......

After giving the two boys detention the school was believed to have received several complaints from parents about the long-standing teacher.

Today, a school spokesman said she was suspended over the allegations - but also for “ongoing inquiries centred around other practical issues”.

Joan Feenan, director of Cheshire County Council’s children’s services, said: “This authority is naturally concerned about complaints we have received from parents.............

“Together with the school, we will be thoroughly investigating those complaints, in a careful and considered manner, and informing parents of the conclusions reached.

“Educating children in Christian and other religious beliefs is part of the national curriculum in secular schools and I’m sure that the great majority of our parents welcome any efforts to further mutual understanding. ?????

“Having said that, this authority also accepts without question that such teaching should be carried out with awareness, sensitivity and sound common sense.

“Alsager is a high performing school with very supportive parents.

“I am confident that this matter will be resolved equitably.”

She also added that suspension was not a disciplinary measure.

One parent, Karen Williams, said after hearing the claims: “I am absolutely furious my daughter was made to take part in it and I don’t find it acceptable.
“I haven’t got a problem with them teaching my child other religions and a small amount of information doesn’t do any harm.

“But not only did they have to pray, the teacher had gone into the class and made them watch a short film and then said ‘We are now going out to pray to Allah’.
“And then two boys got detention and all the other children missed their refreshments break because of the teacher.”

The incident was believed to have taken place during a practical demonstration of how the prophet is worshipped.’


47 posted on 08/18/2012 2:44:57 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: george76

It was a visit by schoolchildren to a mosque. Scottish/British schoolchildren visit mosques, Protestant and Catholic churches, Buddhist temples, synagogues, Sikh temples, as part of RE field trips.

Nothing new.
Nothing sinister.

I can remember myself visiting Presybterian, Catholic, Episcopalian and a Sikh temple as part of my RE teaching (1982-1988).


48 posted on 08/18/2012 2:49:15 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: Kipp

Kipp, mate, the two stories you quote are nonsense.

In fact, the first appeared here a year or two ago. And British freepers like myself were able to show it was nonsense.

And dont give the BNP as a credible source. Thats like giving the KKK as a credible source for American race relations.


49 posted on 08/18/2012 2:51:19 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: george76

It was a visit by schoolchildren to a mosque. Scottish/British schoolchildren visit mosques, Protestant and Catholic churches, Buddhist temples, synagogues, Sikh temples, as part of RE field trips.

Nothing new. Nothing sinister.

I can remember myself visiting Presybterian, Catholic, Episcopalian and a Sikh temple as part of my RE teaching (1982-1988).


50 posted on 08/18/2012 2:52:29 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: george76

The brits banned private ownership of guns and now they’ve lost all their balls. England is another third world moslem hell hole in the making


51 posted on 08/18/2012 2:55:35 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: george76

Yawn. Another factually incorrect ‘article’ with not a single link or source in any part - just opinion and hot air posted by part of the anti-British section of Freerepublic. It’s amazing how these idiots decry everything the MSM writes about the US but treat any MSM nonsense about Britain as gospel. No wonder you ended up with a foreign muslim president if you let people like this vote.


52 posted on 08/18/2012 3:07:33 PM PDT by Caulkhead
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To: george76

I have read you link and most of that article is rubbish.
And has been debunked here more than once.

About the only story that may be true is the Stoke on Trent/Ramadan story, and even then it may be exaggerated. As newspapers/media are want to do.

I have already explained why Scots children visiting a mosque is nothing sinister. The Holocaust ban story, as we are discussing in this thread, is nonsense and a hoax.

The Crusades story is utter crap. Never read such rubbish.

The halal meat story has been misrepresented. Yes, halal meat IS available now in many UK schools, but it is NOT compulsary. The story that only halal meat is fed to British schoolkids is also nonsense. The actual fact is that halal meat is not more available, but it quickly became an internet myth that ONLY halal meat was available. Which is not true.

Ellesmere Port?. Let me give you a warning (and I say this as a conservative talking about Britain’s most famous conservative newspaper): take what the Daily Mail says with a huge pinch of salt. They are notorious for running stories which are not true. They are notorious for ending up in libel court here. I remember the Ellesmere story, and no other paper ran it, even the downmarket tabloids, because they couldnt find evidence to confirm it.

The Daily Mail has been also famous for every year running a ‘Christmas is banned!’ story. None of which turn out to be true. The most famous being the ‘Winterval’ festival and suppsed banning of Christmas celebrations by Birmingham City Council. It turned out to be a completely false story. Even other rightwing papers (Telegraph, Times) made fun of the Mail for that one.

The pigs/ELC/farm story IS true, BUT the actual story is that the pigs were taken off sets sold in Muslim countries by ELC, NOT the British sold sets.


53 posted on 08/18/2012 3:08:57 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: John O

Banned handguns.
Shotguns and rifles still legal.

And 96% of the UK isnt Muslim. This idea we are a dhimmi nation is nonsense. We have a Conservative, white, upper class, Scots-English-Welsh-Jewish Prime Minister, whilst you have Barry Hussein.


54 posted on 08/18/2012 3:13:05 PM PDT by the scotsman (i)
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To: the scotsman

The Crusades were started by the Muslims in the year 630 A.D. when Muhammad invaded and conquered Mecca. Later on, Muslims invaded Syria, Iraq, Jerusalem, Iran, Egypt, Africa, Spain, Italy, France, etc.

The Western Crusades started around 1095 to try to stop the Islamic aggressive invasions. Islamic Crusades continued even after the Western Crusades.

Islam has been at a continuous war against non-Muslims for almost 1400 years (since Muhammad.)

http://factreal.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/muslim-crusades-started-four-centuries-before-the-western-crusades/


55 posted on 08/18/2012 3:33:48 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: mortal19440
This is really hard to believe. The Brits were never pussies, what the hell is going on?

It's fallout for poorly considered immigration policy.

56 posted on 08/18/2012 3:57:04 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 81 days away.)
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To: the scotsman
... whilst you have Barry Hussein.

We ARE working on that but I will remind you that you had Wilson, Major and G.Brown! At least the Pan Am bomber FINALLY died (he is dead, right?)

Now, writing as one who has been schooled by y'all [Bidenism] in the past, certain stories that I have heard on this topic make me think that there is some fire under this smoke. I heard that there was an 'Asian' criminal ring luring non-Asian girls into prostitution that ran longer than it should because the local constabulary was fearful of the ethnic fallout. I recall a story of a judge giving leniency to a group of Asian women for beating a non-Asian because they were drunk and unused to it because of their religion. And I have heard that a municipal council banned a resident from putting up Christmas lights because of neighborhood values.

Yes we have some of these same things happening here across the pond, but you seem to be less than stalwart in your own defense and we Anglophiles (& Caledonophile / Britophile?) regret that greatly.

57 posted on 08/18/2012 4:50:45 PM PDT by SES1066 (Government is NOT the reason for my existence!)
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To: george76; All
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5. Taqiyya – A Concept of Deceit that Security Professionals Must Know

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Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms

This is a long post, but shows that where Muslims dominate, violence follows, even after they’ve taken control. Islam is a warrior’s code, not a religion.

Islam is a warrior’s code, not a religion.

Islam Explained in Layman’s Terms

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life.

Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.

Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.

When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well.

Here’s how it works:

As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in:

United States — Muslim 1.8%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%

At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in:

Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 5.2%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%

From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in:

France — Muslim 8%
Philippines — Muslim 5%
Sweden — Muslim 5%
Switzerland — Muslim 4.3%
The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5%
Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%

At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.

When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris , we are already seeing car-burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections in:

Guyana — Muslim 10%
India — Muslim 13.4%
Israel — Muslim 16%
Kenya — Muslim 10%
Russia — Muslim 15%

After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in:

Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8%

At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in:

Bosnia — Muslim 40%
Chad — Muslim 53.1%
Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%

From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in:

Albania — Muslim 70%
Malaysia — Muslim 60.4%
Qatar — Muslim 77..5%
Sudan — Muslim 70%

After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some State-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in:

Bangladesh — Muslim 83%
Egypt — Muslim 90%
Gaza — Muslim 98.7%
Indonesia — Muslim 86.1%
Iran — Muslim 98%
Iraq — Muslim 97%
Jordan — Muslim 92%
Morocco — Muslim 98.7%
Pakistan — Muslim 97%
Palestine — Muslim 99%
Syria — Muslim 90%
Tajikistan — Muslim 90%
Turkey — Muslim 99.8%
United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%

100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in:

Afghanistan — Muslim 100%
Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100%
Somalia — Muslim 100%
Yemen — Muslim 100%

Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons.

It is important to understand that in some countries, with well under 100% Muslim populations, such as France, the minority Muslim populations live in ghettos, within which they are 100% Muslim, and within which they live by Sharia Law. The national police do not even enter these ghettos. There are no national courts, nor schools, nor non-Muslim religious facilities. In such situations, Muslims do not integrate into the community at large. The children attend madrasses. They learn only the Koran. To even associate with an infidel is a crime punishable with death. Therefore, in some areas of certain nations, Muslim Imams and extremists exercise more power than the national average would indicate.

Today’s 1.5 billion Muslims make up 22% of the world’s population. But their birth rates dwarf the birth rates of Christians, Hindus, Buddhists, Jews, and all other believers. Muslims will exceed 50% of the world’s population by the end of this century.

Adapted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat.

Well, boys and girls, today we are letting the fox guard the henhouse. The wolves will be herding the sheep!

Obama appointed two devout Muslims to Homeland Security posts. Doesn’t this make you feel safer already? Arif Alikhan as Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Kareem Shora as ADC National Executive Director.

NOTE: Has anyone ever heard a new government official being identified as a devout Catholic, a devout Jew or a devout Protestant...? Just wondering.

Devout Muslims being appointed to critical Homeland Security positions? Doesn’t this make you feel safer already??

Was it not “Devout Muslims” who flew planes into U.S. buildings 8 years ago?

Was it not a Devout Muslim who killed 13 at Fort Hood?

58 posted on 08/18/2012 4:58:01 PM PDT by B4Ranch (There's Two Choices... Stand Up and Be Counted ... Or Line Up and Be Numbered .)
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To: george76

Good God..the Brits have gone evil

Not only they outwardly practice Anti-Semitism by refusing to teach the Holocaust....this is Government Sponsored Holocaust Denial.

And, forcing public school children to be forcefully taught Islam is horrendous. Even secular European states are getting tougher on forced Islam


59 posted on 08/18/2012 4:58:01 PM PDT by SeminoleCounty (Just because someone has an "R" next to their name, does not make them a Conservative)
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>> the lessons frequently contradict what is taught in local mosques...

While the mosques prepare for the demise of the West.

#ing Bridiots!


60 posted on 08/18/2012 5:01:00 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Demoralization is a weapon of the enemy. Don't get it, don't spread it!)
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