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Poverty takes its toll on life expectancy (Obama's America)
The Hill ^ | 08/17/12

Posted on 08/18/2012 7:40:02 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst

We’re living in two Americas. But unlike 50 years ago, when Michael Harrington’s “The Other America” shone a spotlight on poverty among certain groups within the U.S., today’s “other America” is one of profound differences in the most precious of all commodities – the length of our lives. We’ve known for some time now of the health and longevity disparities between blacks and whites. But, as new findings by the MacArthur Foundation Research Network on an Aging Society, recently published in Health Affairs, demonstrate, the story about these longevity gaps has gone through some rather startling changes.

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2012issues; bho44; newnormal; obamacare; poverty; publicdole; welfare
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This is what we get. After 100 years of increasingly PAYING people to be poor, we finally reached the point where our desire to subsidize sloth and dependency is having a PHYSICAL toll.

It's time to end welfare. Not "welfare as we know it," but welfare -- all of it.

That's not to say we don't take care of the poor. But we have to stop ENCOURAGING and REWARDING poverty as we have over the past century (especially the past 40 years) and have done to a ridiculous degree under O-ZERO.

How do we do replace welfare? We go back to a system that worked or HUNDREDS of years before the "progressive" era: Private charity, faith-based institutions, poor farms, workhouses and the like.

All of these institutions emphasized spiritual development and labor as the way out of poverty. The poor were not coddled and made to feel like victims. They were told in a straightforward way that their poverty was not a badge of honor, but a failing that they needed to overcome. They were made to feel a healthy SHAME about their circumstances and encouraged to regain their dignity by paying back society for carrying them.

It's time. The progressive experiments have failed. Let's go back to what worked.

1 posted on 08/18/2012 7:40:20 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

A pretty fair amount of clap-trap in the article...

The stress of living paycheck to paycheck,etc.

Who hasn’t done that, at some point?

Adapt, improvise and overcome.

Next obstacle, please.


2 posted on 08/18/2012 7:54:33 PM PDT by One Name
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

The article is about education:

“Overall, in a very short span, we’ve seen a widening gulf between those with the least and most education in America.”

It sounds like those egghead ivory-tower brainiac professors are saying their better then us!! See how they like it when we defund all Public Universities!


3 posted on 08/18/2012 7:59:19 PM PDT by bammynomore
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
paying somebody to sit on their azz all day only getting up to eat, drink and fornicate takes it toll...
4 posted on 08/18/2012 8:01:33 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

I completely disagree.

Free sex and abortion and the destruction of the family unit is the problem.


5 posted on 08/18/2012 8:07:36 PM PDT by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
Liberals don't get it.

It's not education and health care. Those aren't the problems - it's drug use, gang deaths ( yes, those are averaged in to how long a group lives) and stupid life choices ( smoking, alcoholism, promiscuity etc) It's liberals making people dependent and broken... to secure cheap votes.

6 posted on 08/18/2012 8:11:50 PM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: GOPJ

If you are a poor adult in America, then you most likely brought it on yourself.


7 posted on 08/18/2012 8:14:11 PM PDT by GodAndCountryFirst
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“Overall, in a very short span, we’ve seen a widening gulf between those with the least and most education in America.”

In a true free market, most people start their professional lives poor and end them rich. In this environment, a growing gap between rich and poor means the sky is the limit for people just entering the market place. It's a GOOD thing and means we're living in a wealthy country, not bad.

Only in countries where people are born into their class and are condemned to live out their lives in their caste is a big gap between rich and poor bad.

8 posted on 08/18/2012 8:23:06 PM PDT by LaserJock
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To: GodAndCountryFirst
We've wasted bazillions of dollars on the "War on Poverty", and we now have the richest, best nourished poor people in the History of Man, we have the most expensive health care system on the planet, and as a nation, we rank #38 in life expectancy, behind Cuba.

So now it's education. "If we don’t create better education ladders for Americans to climb, we will find ourselves in a polarized country". We already have a polarized country! And there are plenty of education ladders, we just have waaaay too many people who want to be lifted by a crane because they're too fat and lazy to climb the abundant ladders that are readily available.

The kind of poverty we have in the US isn't the kind of poverty that more money will fix, so why even try?

9 posted on 08/18/2012 8:23:11 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: One Name

“Who hasn’t done that, at some point?”

I never have and never will, I was raised better than that!


10 posted on 08/18/2012 8:32:39 PM PDT by dalereed
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Guess you never set out on your own; spoon-baby.

Some people didn’t do it like that.


11 posted on 08/18/2012 8:49:29 PM PDT by One Name
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

I would be sceptical of anything funded by this foundation. It is a left wing group, not unlike the Ford Foundation.


12 posted on 08/18/2012 9:07:52 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

I think it was Milton Friedman...

If you want more of something, subsidize it.

If you want less of something, tax it.


13 posted on 08/18/2012 9:08:49 PM PDT by MV=PY (The Magic Question: Who's paying for it?)
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There is plenty of generalizations in this article without drilling down to see exactly why these differences are happening and whether it is new or not.

The life span differences among the races has a lot to do with infant mortality. Once you get beyond that, the differences start to disappear. At birth, black females outlive white males. Table 105. Life Expectancy by Sex, Age, and Race: 2008

14 posted on 08/18/2012 9:08:58 PM PDT by kabar
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

What’s your handle on DU and Kos? Trying to make FR look bad doesn’t usually work, because we can see your “born on” date and also that you linked us to DU:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021158683


15 posted on 08/18/2012 9:10:49 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (You cannot invade the mainland United States. There would be a rifle behind every blade of grass.)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Decisions have consequences...


16 posted on 08/18/2012 9:19:18 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana (Why should I vote for Bishop Romney when he hates me because I am a Christian)
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To: GodAndCountryFirst

Democrats use powerful incentives to keep people dependent and broken... and many of those incentives do their worst damage when a person is young and more easily trapped...


17 posted on 08/18/2012 9:27:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: One Name

Learned helplessness is the goal. They start in on your child from Kindergarten on. Think about how school is set up. It lacks innovation or merit. You’re dependent on the whim of a single adult. You don’t decide a thing for yourself. Government school is meant to dumb your spirit down and prepare you for consumerism.


18 posted on 08/18/2012 9:38:12 PM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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quote “If you are a poor adult in America, then you most likely brought it on yourself.”

BINGO!

you show me someone poor and i’ll show you someone who made a lifetime of bad choices every time.


19 posted on 08/18/2012 10:02:57 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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To: GOPJ

Exactly. Early death and disease, statistically, in this group adds up to a lifestyle of immediate self gratification, irresponsibility and an immorality.

It’s not due to the people who succeed or racism and no socialist institution will fix it without raaaaacis oppression and control.


20 posted on 08/18/2012 10:24:06 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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