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Homosexuality is Still a Sin According to God
The Telegraph ^ | August 19, 2012 | Gene Stillwell

Posted on 08/19/2012 10:44:19 AM PDT by Tau Food

Many issues are involved in the present debate over the acceptance of homosexuality. While there are those in the field of genetics who say homosexuality is biologically determined, there are also those in the field of religion who say the practice of homosexuality is always wrong.

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There are many studies that have been conducted but none of them prove the practice of homosexuality is biologically determined. In fact, human behavior, sexual or otherwise, has little to do with genetics. A rational person will realize that we live in a world where we have a choice as to how we behave and also where we are going to be held accountable for the choices we make.

Although it may not be fully understood what causes a person to become a murderer or a rapist, society will not hesitate to punish such criminal behavior. The same would hold true with sexual behavior. Though a person may have certain desires for sexual contact with his own or the opposite sex, the desire to follow through with those desires is a choice for which the accountable person will be held responsible. It should be obvious that sexuality does not completely fall under the realm of science.

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Moral absolutes may be defined as “objective moral values which are real and true for men regardless of whether any person or culture believes them to be true.” In other words, moral absolutes are higher than the invention, alteration, or termination of mankind.

There are two things that are necessary for a system of morality to be based on moral absolutes: (1) moral obligations must be dependent upon objective moral truth; and (2) mankind must have the ability to be aware of and to learn of that truth.

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To: a fool in paradise
What vote in the 2012 presidential election will stop the homosexual agenda in 2013?


How about trusting God instead of any mere man.

Last night my husband and I ran into someone who use to work for him at STRATCOM (Offutt) We asked how and what she was doing since she retired. She told us she was coming clean and she was volunteering for the election; the democrats. She said everyone was so “republican” and felt she had to hide her politics (my husband corrected her and laughed and said you mean you're embarrassed to admit your a democrat)

My mom knew her from a few Christians functions, so I had to ask her how her faith could allow her to vote with a party and politicians who thinks abortion and homosexual marriage is ok. She said she agrees abortion and homosexual marriage is wrong, but believed since Obama won God wanted him in there. She quoted the scripture that said that God chooses our leaders. I told her I agree, but sometimes He allows certain evil leaders as punishment.

I then got serious and reminded her we will be held accountable for the power we give these politicians. I told her that 50,000 million babies have died and now homosexual activist are targeting our kids and changing what God ordained as sacred; marriage. She agrees that is wrong, but said that she is VOTING FOR THE LESSOR OF TWO EVILS. Where have I heard that before? She thinks the world is coming to an end very soon, for sure if Romney is president. This woman has a masters degree I think in engineering and seemed so intelligent. She asked me if I had seen how red the moon was the other night and that was a sign of the end. She is black and I think that and her church has formed her political beliefs.

I told her I am standing with God and will not vote for anyone who is pro-abortion or gay marriage, besides so many other things they stand for that is wrong; so I am not voting for Obama or Romney. I asked her what she thought would happen if every Christian, those who truly wanted God to heal our land; those who are willing to stand against the worlds values for God; how would the world change? That would mean we would have to humble ourselves and pray God's will and not our own. My words were never angry or confrontational and I tried to speak in love, and I think I did. She said she had to leave, and wished us well.

This is why the country and the world is in such trouble. We Christians won't give up our idols and put God first. Not that I am perfect, but being part of something so evil as abortion and homosexual marriage is so outside God's will, I don't understands people fearing Obama or anyone more than God. God help us and our kids.

41 posted on 08/19/2012 2:52:16 PM PDT by Linda Frances (Woe to those who call evil good and good evil, who put darkness for light and light for darkness)
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To: RichInOC
Don’t have anal sex. The government hates competition.

Nominated for post of the day ... LMAO!!!

42 posted on 08/19/2012 2:56:02 PM PDT by Fast Moving Angel (A moral wrong is not a civil right: No religious sanction of an irreligious act.)
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To: BlatherNaut

“...I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation”


Spin baby, spin. Even for a pervert.


43 posted on 08/19/2012 3:05:23 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
Spin baby, spin. Even for a pervert.

Hmmm.

So now you're calling him a "pervert"?

Not a shred of evidence for such a charge.

Calumniate: to make false and malicious statements about; slander

44 posted on 08/19/2012 3:17:28 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: P-Marlowe
A vote for Romney is a vote for the homosexual agenda

So is a non-vote for Romney. We don't have choice between good and evil this election.

45 posted on 08/19/2012 3:25:48 PM PDT by chesley (God's chosen instrument - the trumpet)
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To: Tau Food

“We can help turn back the homosexual tide this year by opposing any candidate of either party who caves into the demands of the homosexual activists and who refuses to affirmatively support traditional family structures and values.”

I agree with this statement, but this will not turn back the tide. The real battle is not in the political realm, it is in the hearts and minds of Americans in general and homosexuals in particular. The gay agenda cannot be defeated in the voting booth, all our political victories are hollow because they harden the hearts of the homosexuals instead of opening them up for Christ. Converting a single homosexual to the light is more significant than passing a Federal Marriage Amendment.


46 posted on 08/19/2012 3:38:17 PM PDT by BurningOak (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2830849/reply?c=1)
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To: chesley
When you pull the lever for Romney just know that you are voting in favor of the homosexual agenda.

Remember Sodom and Gomorrah.

47 posted on 08/19/2012 3:42:08 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: xzins

Sounds like you’re trying to drum up votes for 3rd party and siphon votes away from Romney/Ryan. - Who the heck is GOODE; OR JOHNSON; ? They won’t win; aren’t trying to win.
Vote for who you like by all means; and allow us to do the same. - Ross Perot gave us the Clintons; and in retrospect, Ross Perot was in it for Clinton’s benefit and seemed more vengeful against Bush than anything.


48 posted on 08/19/2012 4:36:41 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: DaveInDallas

“We go to war with the army we’ve got, not the army we wish we had,”

RIGHT! Perot played spoiler for the Clintons; and now we’re stuck with those two from now on. Hillary and Bill both are hand in glove with the Obama/Soros agenda and Bill’s excesses paved the way for what we’ve got now. I’M JUST GONNA PRAY AND DO THE BEST I CAN.


49 posted on 08/19/2012 4:42:46 PM PDT by Twinkie (John 3:16)
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To: tsowellfan

Naw, Bill used ta say that Hillary got more p#$$y than he did - who’d want chubby old Monica when you could get Houma?


50 posted on 08/19/2012 5:24:28 PM PDT by ichabod1 (Spriiingtime for islam, and tyranny. Winter for US and frieeends. . .)
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To: BlatherNaut
WELL, THEN MAYBE YOU SHOULD HAVE PUT I feel that all people should be able to participate in the Boy Scouts regardless of their sexual orientation IN BOLD, INSTEAD THEN...
51 posted on 08/19/2012 5:42:08 PM PDT by RaceBannon (I wont vote for a gay marriage marxist gun grabber, or vote for Obama, either)
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To: Tau Food
There are many studies that have been conducted but none of them prove the practice of homosexuality is biologically determined. In fact, human behavior, sexual or otherwise, has little to do with genetics.

A deceptive slight of hand? Shame on the author and yet it's too common among a tactic.

In fact the "biologically determined" argument is not centered around genetics, the undiscovered "gay gene," but physiological differences shown in brain studies and, lately, links to hormone exposures while in utero.

I can't understand the obsession with homosexuality that some have; it's as if there's no other sin or transgression in the world, as if it's the root of all evil everywhere (is that you, Fred Phelps?). It's gained outsized importance as a sin while few alternatives are offered to those suffering with the physiological predilection.

Homosexual sex is called out as an "abomination" in one particular passage (Leviticus 18:22, but not 20:13). So too is lying (Proverbs 12:22) but also pork (Deuteronomy 14). Too much is made over the "abomination" label and, indeed, many lie claiming nothing else is ascribed such a harsh rebuke. Actually, Leviticus 20:13 calls for a death penalty on men who practice homosexuality (despicable acts) but you don't see much of that these days outside the Muslim world. Go figure.

The spin has become, "Oh, that's just a metaphor speaking of spiritual death" and yet, later in Leviticus 20, regarding "mediums," we see the same phrase, "surely be put to death," with the specific method of execution listed as stoning.

It's clear the passage intends for practicing homosexuals to be put to death but what Christian authority is arguing for that today? Since that's essentially none, on what basis is that left aside along with the dietary prohibitions?

Churches and others rejecting the Left's open embrace of it, must do better articulating a workable life plan for homosexuals.

52 posted on 08/19/2012 6:11:51 PM PDT by newzjunkey (Election night is 78 days away.)
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To: BlatherNaut

If you advocate for an institutional policy that will lead to the rape of boys, you are for the rape of boys. Decent men protect boys. Mittens is not a decent man.


53 posted on 08/19/2012 6:13:56 PM PDT by SaraJohnson
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To: SaraJohnson
If you advocate for an institutional policy that will lead to the rape of boys, you are for the rape of boys.

So now you're saying the man is "for the rape of boys".

How is supporting the Scout's right to decide "advocating for an institutional policy that will lead to the rape of boys"?

Sorry, but that makes no sense.

We're all free to vote wherever the spirit leads us, but it's not right to make unjustified claims.

54 posted on 08/19/2012 6:58:51 PM PDT by BlatherNaut
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To: Tau Food
Genesis 13:13
Now the men of Sodom were wicked and were sinning greatly against the LORD.

Genesis 18:20-21
20. Then the LORD said, "The outcry against Sodom and Gomorrah is so great and
their sin so grievous
21. that I will go down and see if what they have done is as bad as the outcry that has reached me. If not, I will know."

Genesis 19:4-7
4. Before they had gone to bed, all the men
from every part of the city of Sodom--both young and old--surrounded the house.
5. They called to Lot, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them
."
6. Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him
7. and said, "No, my friends. Don't do this wicked thing.

 

Psalms 12:8      The wicked freely strut about when what is vile is honored among men.

Ain't this just FABULOUS??      More?

Isaiah 3:9   The look on their faces testifies against them; they parade their sin like Sodom; they do not hide it. Woe to them! They have brought disaster upon themselves.

2 Peter 2:13b  Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.


 

 

Ezekiel 16:49-50
49. "`Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy.
50. They were haughty and did detestable things before me. Therefore I did away with them as you have seen.



2 Peter 2

 1.  But there were also false prophets among the people, just as there will be false teachers among you. They will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the sovereign Lord who bought them--bringing swift destruction on themselves.
 2.  Many will follow their shameful ways and will bring the way of truth into disrepute.
 3.  In their greed these teachers will exploit you with stories they have made up. Their condemnation has long been hanging over them, and their destruction has not been sleeping.
 4.  For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but sent them to hell,  putting them into gloomy dungeons  to be held for judgment;
 5.  if he did not spare the ancient world when he brought the flood on its ungodly people, but protected Noah, a preacher of righteousness, and seven others;
 6.  if he condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah by burning them to ashes, and made them an example of what is going to happen to the ungodly;
 7.  and if he rescued Lot, a righteous man, who was distressed by the filthy lives of lawless men
 8.  (for that righteous man, living among them day after day, was tormented in his righteous soul by the lawless deeds he saw and heard)--
 9.  if this is so, then the Lord knows how to rescue godly men from trials and to hold the unrighteous for the day of judgment, while continuing their punishment.
 10.  This is especially true of those who follow the corrupt desire of the sinful nature  and despise authority.   Bold and arrogant, these men are not afraid to slander celestial beings;
 11.  yet even angels, although they are stronger and more powerful, do not bring slanderous accusations against such beings in the presence of the Lord.
 12.  But these men blaspheme in matters they do not understand. They are like brute beasts, creatures of instinct, born only to be caught and destroyed, and like beasts they too will perish.
 13.  They will be paid back with harm for the harm they have done.
Their idea of pleasure is to carouse in broad daylight. They are blots and blemishes, reveling in their pleasures while they feast with you.



But there IS hope!!!

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

 9. Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived:
     Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders
10. nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
11. And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

 


If you could NOT change, you would be in most pitiful shape...

55 posted on 08/19/2012 7:00:38 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: RichInOC

OUCH!


56 posted on 08/19/2012 7:03:20 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: carlo3b
Lets see, I get it, you really don’t like Romney.. Obama.

Not to worry; for there are THOUSANDS of folks who voted for Barak last time that will NOT; under ANY circumstances vote for him again!


But; they do like Romney enough to vote for him; either.

I guess if THEY don't vote for either presidential candidate; then THAT will be a vote FOR Romney anyway.

57 posted on 08/19/2012 7:07:12 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlatherNaut
"I support the right of the Boy Scouts of America to decide what it wants to do on that issue.

And I bet he says the same thing about the GIRL Scouts; too!

58 posted on 08/19/2012 7:08:45 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
But; they do NOT like Romney enough ...
59 posted on 08/19/2012 7:11:11 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: carlo3b
I am ashamed that I . . . wince with revolution,

I have just the candidate for you. Take the time to learn about Tom Hoefling for President.

You can vote for Tom without feeling shame.

60 posted on 08/19/2012 7:29:50 PM PDT by Tau Food (Tom Hoefling for President - 2012)
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