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Top US General Blasts Ex-Officers for Attacking Obama
AFP ^ | Tuesday, August 21, 2012

Posted on 08/21/2012 4:32:35 PM PDT by kristinn

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To: kristinn

If anyone would like to email a comment to the Joint Chiefs, you can try this link as I did. Of course all they did was bounce back my original question:

https://kb.defense.gov/app/ask


201 posted on 08/22/2012 12:12:43 PM PDT by JoyjoyfromNJ (everything written by me on FR is my personal opinion & does not represent my employer)
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To: kristinn

Above the fray, NAY! Forever, lose my First Ammendment Rights - NAY! General, your comments and opinions are duly noted.


202 posted on 08/22/2012 12:16:21 PM PDT by gotaz
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To: NKP_Vet

Without a doubt.


203 posted on 08/22/2012 1:26:09 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: TigersEye

Thank you!! And, yes, I will.


204 posted on 08/22/2012 3:48:45 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: SZonian

“Your comments are duly noted, “sir”.”

Isn’t that better spelled “cur”?


205 posted on 08/22/2012 4:11:50 PM PDT by chooseascreennamepat (You can't pick up a turd by the clean end!)
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE

Enh. He has to stand by his CIC. Who knows what his real thoughts are, and who cares until he becomes a civilian.


206 posted on 08/22/2012 4:39:45 PM PDT by Eleutheria5 (End the occupation. Annex today.)
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To: Eleutheria5

He was promoted under the bamster administration so I have a real good guess.I would have resigned before I said anything slagging off our veterans.


207 posted on 08/22/2012 9:19:56 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: kristinn; betty boop; joanie-f; Travis McGee; Eaker; Squantos; MileHi; knarf; Lurker; Noumenon

Well, with all due respect, if General Dempsey is an Obama appointee, it is abundantly clear why it is , “not useful to me.”

The General needs to remember that these men are retired. They have served, and served honorably. They took the oath to defend the constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic...and to bear true faith and allegiance to the constitution. So while it may not be “useful,” to the General, that is not at all the issue or question here.

Is it useful to the Constitution? Yes it most certainly is given the breech Obama represents at the very highest level. And as private citizens it is their right and their duty to expose it.

For the Constitution, and for their brothers in arms and harm’s way who this man’svery position as President threatens each and every day.

America at the Crossroads of History
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


208 posted on 08/22/2012 9:49:43 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: HANG THE EXPENSE
(Article) Asked if the group's criticism was valid or useful, Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he would not comment on the substance of their allegations.

LOL! Of course he "would not comment" -- any halfway-truthful "comment" would have to begin by conceding the obvious, that the retirees had a good beef.

Errand boy, go away. Let's have us a real general, not another Wesley Clark.

209 posted on 08/23/2012 6:42:24 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: abb
Just how many former military officers actually did become President?

Every president from U.S. Grant down to Wm. McKinley served as an officer in the Civil War, no exceptions.

The weakest service jackets were held by Chester Arthur, who was a quartermaster major-general in the N.Y. Militia (and party hack, and crook), and Wm. McKinley was an infantry captain. The strongest jackets were Grant's and James Garfield's: Garfield was cited for heroism as both a company-grade and field-grade officer.

Theodore Roosevelt was the first president of a new generation of politicians who'd been too young to serve in the Civil War. His war, of course, was in Cuba, 30 years later.

Roosevelt and McKinley developed the Mahan Doctrine, which says that the United States will never accept willingly a land war on our own territory, but will instead engage every enemy at great distances, with the mailed fist of the Marine Corps riding the long arm of a strong Navy.

210 posted on 08/23/2012 6:58:03 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: RetiredArmy
They were political officers, in the game to punch their tickets and make that next grade, on the backs of the troops.

The most recent (serious) bio of George S. Patton describes how he and Ike labored all through the 20's and 30's under a heavy load of peacetime generals (Patton came close to suicide); but in 1941, when the nation was about to put it on the line after Pearl Harbor, the Army got its ass in gear and there was a tremendous shuffling of senior field-grade and flag officers. People who in 1940 looked like they'd be leading any new AEF to Europe were sent down to retirement or a desk at Redstone Arsenal, and a whole new crop got the combat commands -- on probation: one screwup and boom, you're gone, to work for some other pencil-pusher at Fort McNair or someplace.

Ike, Patton, and Omar Bradley all got combat commands right out of the box and stayed in charge for the duration.

Then the Army cycled them out, and went back to political pencil-pusher types like Bedell-Smith.

211 posted on 08/23/2012 7:09:48 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: kristinn

Retired military have ZERO “duty” to remain “above the fray”.

Per Heinlein’s concepts, they’re exercising their franchise as citizens.

Dempsey has it backwards. As the active duty guy, he is the ONLY one who should STFU on political issues.


212 posted on 08/23/2012 7:50:03 AM PDT by SJSAMPLE
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To: Never on my watch

What about the homos and bull dykes marching in the freakshow parades?


213 posted on 08/23/2012 8:33:38 AM PDT by USAF80
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To: kristinn

Obama, arguing that soldiers had a duty to stay above the political fray. ....................................................... Errrrr? Like in Florida 2000????


214 posted on 08/23/2012 8:51:55 AM PDT by Bringbackthedraft (Who you chose as President isn't as important as his choice of political appointees.)
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To: kristinn
Asked if the group's criticism was valid or useful, Dempsey, chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff, said he would not comment on the substance of their allegations.

There are liberals in the military - there are gays in the military - there are traitors in the military, conservatives, patriots, heroes and cowards. Here's what we know about Dempsey - he doesn't believe people have the right to free speech who disagree with him. That makes him a liberal...

215 posted on 08/23/2012 8:58:35 AM PDT by GOPJ (Politics is war without bloodshed, and war is politics with bloodshed. - Mao Tse Tung. We're at war)
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To: kristinn

Dempsey is an ass with no knowledge of US history or he’d know that plenty of former military officers have gotten into politics. Most notably the Generals who later became Presidents starting with Washington and then Jackson, Grant, and Eisenhower.


216 posted on 08/23/2012 2:53:36 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: G Larry

Reagan served in the US Army during WW2 making training films.


217 posted on 08/23/2012 2:56:05 PM PDT by MeganC (The Cinemark theatre in Aurora, CO is a 'Gun Free Zone'. Spread the word.)
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To: lentulusgracchus

Yes indeed.


218 posted on 08/23/2012 3:38:15 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: kristinn
Wading into a potential minefield during a hotly contested White House race, Dempsey voiced his disapproval of a group of retired military members and CIA office . . .

Is it just me, or is Dempsey a hypocrite as I perceive this? Dempsey jumps into the "fray" with his condemnation of these brave former soldiers and CIA officers because they jumped into the "fray" to voice their concern that the Obozo admin is putting lives at risk!! That is at the very least being hypocritical!!

219 posted on 08/23/2012 6:46:32 PM PDT by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: kristinn
Oh, B.S.!!!

There isn't a general officer or admiral serving on active duty that isn't a political animal.

What the General is complaining about is the fact that he had no chance to suppress or hold up the release of the book until after October's theatrical release of Obama’s massive, free, reelection movie. Now the best he can hope to become is a member of the board at Mattel Toy company. If the general wants to complain how about he and the current JSOC Commander and USSOCOM Commander go for a little run, swim, night jump, and lock out from a sub?

220 posted on 08/23/2012 7:38:12 PM PDT by Nip (TANSTAAFL and BOHICA)
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To: kristinn
But this is just fine and dandy:

General McPeak calls Bush "village idiot"; plans to advise Obama

If it weren't for Double Standards, the Left would have no standards at all.

Remember, for at least over 150 years, soldiers did not wear their uniforms to political events.

Obama directly ordered the DoD to violate that so that homosexuals could march in "Gay Pride" gross outs in San Diego.


221 posted on 08/24/2012 3:25:59 AM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: kristinn

Somehow I recall a retired general or two being involved in politics, Washington, Jackson, Harrison, Taylor, Grant, Harrison, Garfield, Eisenhower, as well as former officers Truman, Kennedy, Johnson, Nixon, Ford, Reagan, GHW Bush, GWBush.
Not to mention Wesley Clark the former Democrat candidate for President. Typical Democrat: “Shut up!” he argued.


222 posted on 08/24/2012 11:28:57 PM PDT by donmeaker (Blunderbuss: A short weapon, ... now superceded in civilized countries by more advanced weaponry.)
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To: kristinn

As a former enlisted grunt I would like to say: STFU General Dipsh$t.

I feel better now.


223 posted on 08/25/2012 7:14:43 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: SoldierDad

He is a hypocrite because he is an active duty officer compelled by the UCMJ to stay out of politics while in uniform. His condemnation of retired military exercising their rights was a political act. He is the turd in the punchbowl and he needs to shut his 4 star piehole.


224 posted on 08/25/2012 7:20:23 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: SoldierDad

He is a hypocrite because he is an active duty officer compelled by the UCMJ to stay out of politics while in uniform. His condemnation of retired military exercising their rights was a political act. He is the turd in the punchbowl and he needs to shut his 4 star piehole.


225 posted on 08/25/2012 7:20:44 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: SoldierDad

He is a hypocrite because he is an active duty officer compelled by the UCMJ to stay out of politics while in uniform. His condemnation of retired military exercising their rights was a political act. He is the turd in the punchbowl and he needs to shut his 4 star piehole.


226 posted on 08/25/2012 7:20:59 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: SoldierDad

He is a hypocrite because he is an active duty officer compelled by the UCMJ to stay out of politics while in uniform. His condemnation of retired military exercising their rights was a political act. He is the turd in the punchbowl and he needs to shut his 4 star piehole.


227 posted on 08/25/2012 7:21:13 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: jwalsh07

Blame it on android.


228 posted on 08/25/2012 7:23:24 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: BlatherNaut
AMen!: He’s got it backwards, since he’s the one who’s active duty and ought to keep his mouth shut.
229 posted on 08/26/2012 8:08:09 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: BlatherNaut
AMen!: He’s got it backwards, since he’s the one who’s active duty and ought to keep his mouth shut.
230 posted on 08/26/2012 8:08:26 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: abb

Abb only 11 presidents didn’t have military experience.
The link below takes us to the list of American Presidents who served in our military:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_United_States_Presidents_by_military_service


231 posted on 08/26/2012 8:16:03 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS DESTROYING AMERICA-LOOK AT WHAT IT DID TO THE WHITE HOUSE!)
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To: kristinn; mickie; seekthetruth
Is there ANY portion of American military, governmental, political, financial, religious, academic, media, scientific, entertainment, cultural, economic or just plain human society that Obama hasn't DIVIDED and caused massive, destructive IN-FIGHTING and DEMORALIZATION?

The Communard Agitator-in-Chief is truly evil personified. Our inspirationally-founded Republic teeters on the cliff. His vile, tentacles are attached to every section of our public body and human order, poisoning everything possible in his "Forward" path.

Leni

232 posted on 08/26/2012 8:39:01 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: TigersEye

I have given all of these groups support. I had watched the video and went to Bejamin Smith’s FB page. I had said that I supported what they were doing and thanked him. Well, it turned into a back and forth with a group of juvenile leftist punks. No big deal right? Well these little darlings searched me online and have distributed my personal information on their freak blogs. However, they have also identified my children, two, who are active duty troops. They have posted the names, addresses, phone numbers of those involved with the OPSEC group. Including Gold Star Mom, Debbie Lee.

These people are crazy. They are now threatening me with legal action saying I am a threat to them. They sent me a copy of a complaint they have filed against me to my local police department, I guess I will call them tomorrow. I feel like I have been pushed down the rabbit hole. Literally dealing with unhinged, juvenile little brats!!!


233 posted on 08/26/2012 3:54:48 PM PDT by panthermom (Pray for our troops!)
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To: panthermom
That really stinks! I haven't heard anything good about FB. A FRiend of mine uses FB for horse rescue and the same kind of thing has happened to her. Daughter's pic grabbed and spread around. Lies about her family. Lies that could bring her family trouble both legal and illegal. Plus a load of unbelievable nastiness.

So sorry this has happened to you and the others. I doubt anything will come of those complaints but I know it could cost you time, money and aggravation. In the long run I think that kind of thing will backfire. Cops and DAs don't like to be jerked around by liars with vendettas. Document as much as you can. Document document document.

ps: I gave as much as I could to OPSEC. I would help them all if I could.

234 posted on 08/27/2012 2:29:10 PM PDT by TigersEye (dishonorabledisclosure.com - OPSEC (give them support))
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