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Poll shocker: Romney up double-digits in Florida
News-Press ^ | August 21, 2012 | Scott Bihr

Posted on 08/21/2012 7:04:17 PM PDT by RobinMasters

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Great News. And it’s ALL because of Paul Ryan. He’s the real deal. We all know Romney is a huge phoney and hasn’t caught-on (and won’t catch on with anyone who realizes the conservative truth). Vote Ryan! And hopefully Aiken will win in a landslide. Principles rule and should be the forefront of any election. Cheers!


61 posted on 08/21/2012 10:31:20 PM PDT by NoRedTape
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To: TonyInOhio

Really? Perhaps with his lagging in the contributions area he would not waste his money in a State so obviously out of reach as this poll suggests.

Funny how folks are so willing to accept the NBC, WAPO, NYT polling using skewed demographics showing Obozo ahead and claim this poll cannot be real.


62 posted on 08/22/2012 2:22:20 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Nervous Tick

Many are unaware the polls they see as being an NBC or WAPO or NYT poll are instead actually done by polling companies such as this one which are commissioned to do them.

Accurate polling is expensive and time consuming. News organizations have neither the expertise or time to do them in any way which would approximate reality.


63 posted on 08/22/2012 2:35:00 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: wardaddy

Can you link me to the internals on this poll? I cannot seem to get there.

If the sampling seems heavy for seniors it may be because Fla has a huge senior population. As for the Hispanic sampling perhaps they afre considering “legal” Hispanics rather than just the total # including illegals,


64 posted on 08/22/2012 2:37:58 AM PDT by beenaround
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To: Ken H

Ken, this one is simple: they use legitimate party affiliation breakdowns and use only likely voter samples.


65 posted on 08/22/2012 3:56:55 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: muawiyah
+13 Dems in a 2008 voter sample--a HIGHLY elevated "Dem" affiliated turnou---when even that showed only a 6% Dem advantage in affiliation is indeed over sampling and truly grossly distorted.

Between the new Ras polls in MI and WI, even if this poll is off a little, it points to a Romney landslide. You can ignore or try to explain away reality, but the way things now stand, Romney is well up in all the key states.

66 posted on 08/22/2012 4:04:03 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: catnipman

I personally know two women who voted for Zero who are opting for Romney, and have never met one person, ever, who voted for McCain who is now voting for Zero.


67 posted on 08/22/2012 4:06:35 AM PDT by LS ("Castles Made of Sand, Fall in the Sea . . . Eventually (Hendrix))
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To: RobinMasters
This might be a right wing psyops but it is interesting that it claims just a 2 1/2% MoE. If it's just made up, it is still a plus since it says "You want made up numbers? Here are your made up numbers!" :-)
68 posted on 08/22/2012 4:13:49 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: muawiyah

All polls have found that 40 percent or more of people are conservative, 20 percent or so are liberal. The rest are moderates. So, we should be winning everything in sight. It’s on the fact that the media spews propaganda 24/7/365 that the left is able to win. Even in deep blue states, there are more conservatives than liberals.


69 posted on 08/22/2012 4:23:52 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Road Glide

Does not compute. First thing is let’s send everybody back who can’t prove some relationship before 1828. Now that’d be something.(/s)


70 posted on 08/22/2012 5:07:30 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: LS
Not really ~ I lie to the Obama pollsters. Don't you, or didn't you get tagged for surveys?

Well, anyway, I will take off on election day and go in and vote for some, against others, and certainly against any tax increases, bond sales or changes to the state constitution.

If a pollster were to ask if I preferred Rombama over Oromney, and I failed to respond, I'd be marked as a non-respondent. You'd actually have to ask me who I was voting for ~ not who I preferred ~ 'cause, as everyone on FR knows, I prefer NEITHER. Doesn't mean I won't be voting.

This happens to a lot of folks BTW, but they go ahead and vote just down ticket, or even at the top of the list, but the responses to the pollster's questions may or may not reflect what someone is going to do. Most pollsters discard these non-response responses since nobody cares ~

I saw an earlier post where some Freeper thinks that folks who don't say they are Republicans or Democrats must be Moderates. What utter nonsense. That's where you get your wild men and women who drop off the charts! Then, there are others who think those folks are Independents, and that's equally preposterous. They just don't want to be on the mailing lists.

Again, pay attention to the trends ~ not the absolute numbers. The trends even give you an idea of what the nonresponsive nonrespondents are thinking ~ 'cause they're still human even if they don't answer polls.

(Note ~ for a long time I used monthly postal mail volume statistics to tell me whether to invest in more stock or go cash. Worked great. Actually, that curve duplicated the old Lynch Curve. It was good for a couple of months in advance of the market too.)

71 posted on 08/22/2012 5:28:52 AM PDT by muawiyah
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To: RobinMasters

Polls are finally starting to reflect reality on the ground. There is no chance this election is going to be a squeaker.. The very idea it was going to be was preposterous from the get go.

Obama’s administration has been an unmitigated FAILURE on every level. He is looking at ending his term with fewer people employed the day his term ends than the day he took office. That’s a distinction NO MODERN PRESIDENT can claim!! Not even CARTER’s stewardship of the economy was that bad.

Obama has NOTHING but the kool aid drinkers left, no one takes a word that comes out of his mouth seriously, particularly when it comes to criticizing his oponent.

Now, fight like its a nailbiter, but know that Obama cannot on his best day get over 42-43% of the vote, and reality is, if he gets 40% on election day he’s damned lucky. He really is facing the prospect that he could not even get that much of the vote, and could rejected by voters by a margin greater than Herbert Hoover in 1932.

By October the notion this guy could get re-elected will be laughed at by everyone other than the biggest Kool Aid drinkers, the press will try to pretend its a contest just to keep the sheeple watching their news shows and buying their magazines, but all serious political discussion will be about can the Republicans win 60 or more seats in the Senate.

Even the press can’t keep up the charade forever, they eventually will know the bloods in the water, and don’t kid yourself while the press may be liberally biased, they are also cut throat, and once the bloods in the water, the feeding frenzy will begin with each trying to top the other and the facade of invincibility or close race/competent leader will be gone. You have already seem some of it, look at this weeks NewsWeek Cover... If Newsweek is willing to run with that as its COVER story, you know the sharks are begining to circle... it won’t be too much longer now.

Pelosi, Reid and Obama have taken the Democratic party over a demographic cliff, and its going to clobber their party up and down the ticket.

The abandonment and flat out animosity that this administration has shown the blue dogs just destroyed the single biggest block of voters the Dems had. These folks collectively over the last 6 years have created a monumental demogrphic shift, that if permanent will make national elections impossible for democrats for a long long time.

Fight like its neck and neck, but don’t buy into this nonsense its a close race, it never was. Basically 1 in 14 folks who voted for Obama 4 years ago changes their mind and he loses... look at the situation in our nation today, do you really think 1 in 14 of the folks who voted for this joker won’t have changed their minds after the last 4 years? Seriously, the idea this guy could win re-election is laughable.

Its nearly September, and what’s the President campaigning on? Class Warfare.... That’s a LOSING proposition, its what a leftist does to gin up their base.. the fact Obama is still doing it in late August tells you he knows he doesn’t even have his base locked up, and the longer and more he does it, the lower he’s going to be on election day. Class Warfare is a LOSING strategy in a national general election in the united states, always has been, always will be.


72 posted on 08/22/2012 5:47:55 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Signalman
I'm in the People's Republic of Maryland. I know (knew, actually) at least three couples who are still going to vote for Obama, because they are die-hard social libs and are terrified that they will be put in concentration camps if Romney wins. Well, maybe they don't quite go that far, but they really like homos, Obamacare and abortion and are really, really scared of Romney.

They only have to worry about being put in concentration camps if I get elected. (jk...sort of...ask me again after Zero has been gone for a couple years.)

As for the rest of the 2008 Zero voters, they are either voting ABO or are disgusted with politics and are sitting this one out. And I know exactly zero McCain voters who are voting for Bambi this time.

73 posted on 08/22/2012 5:48:48 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: WashingtonSource
All polls have found that 40 percent or more of people are conservative, 20 percent or so are liberal. The rest are moderates vote their wallets and their stomachs without consideration for larger things.

There, fixed. Fortunately for the Republic, Zero has not filled them, although he may try a last desperate wealth transfer before November.

74 posted on 08/22/2012 6:00:25 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: beenaround
I agree with you. An accurate internal poll already knows what your preferences are by the hugh amount of data they have and have crunched when they call you. They probably know your favorite color along with all the simple stuff (age, race, party preference, CCW permit or not, etc.). To purchased and maintain these databases and probably implement the algorithms to do this costs lots of money.
75 posted on 08/22/2012 6:53:26 AM PDT by 103198
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To: 103198

Whoops second “probably” -> properly

To purchase and maintain these databases and properly implement the algorithms to do this costs lots of money.


76 posted on 08/22/2012 6:56:36 AM PDT by 103198
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To: sushiman
but we have to find a way to KEEP the majority in both Houses for the forseeable future

It would help if the GOP actually follows through on what gets them elected.

77 posted on 08/22/2012 6:58:32 AM PDT by kevkrom (Those in a rush to trample the Constitution seem to forget that it is the source of their authority.)
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To: kevkrom

And we must hold them accountable after their election and let them know what we think. Them replace as necessary at the next election.


78 posted on 08/22/2012 7:05:33 AM PDT by 103198
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To: kevkrom

And continue to change the GOP...


79 posted on 08/22/2012 7:06:44 AM PDT by 103198
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To: RobinMasters; LS; randita; InterceptPoint

Take that RCP average!!!


80 posted on 08/22/2012 7:22:01 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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