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Oakland police radio culprit: cell towers
San Francisco Chronicle / SFGate.com ^ | Updated 10:32 a.m., Tuesday, August 21, 2012 | Matthai Kuruvila

Posted on 08/21/2012 11:56:16 PM PDT by thecodont

Oakland officials say they and federal investigators have discovered a major source of disruption to the city's police radio communications system: interference from cell phone towers.

Specifically, officials said, cell phone towers operated by AT&T Wireless have been interfering with the city's public safety communications frequency and causing radio failures among police and firefighters on city streets.

AT&T, notified by the city of the problem last week, is cooperating and has partially disabled 16 towers. A company spokesman said the impact on customers will be minimal, affecting only those on the company's oldest phones.

The towers constantly interfered with the radios, but the problems became particularly pronounced when a police car was within a quarter to a half mile of a tower, said David Cruise, Oakland's public safety systems adviser.

"If the officer is in an area close to one of their cell sites, essentially the cell site overpowers their radios," he said.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/crime/article/Oakland-police-radio-culprit-cell-towers-3802585.php#ixzz24Fu6TL7G

(Excerpt) Read more at sfgate.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: cellphones; oaklandca; police; radio
Follow-up to July 26, 2012 story here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2911080/posts

1 posted on 08/21/2012 11:56:23 PM PDT by thecodont
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To: thecodont

I’ll be danged. I live in Oakland. I’m still on dial-up (I’ve heard the jokes, darn it) and for the last couple of weeks my internet connection has been LOUSY. Having to reconnect every few minutes sometimes.

I hope this means they’re gonna fix it ‘cause I really, really don’t want to have to join the 21st century.


2 posted on 08/22/2012 12:02:33 AM PDT by JoeDetweiler
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To: JoeDetweiler

At&t sucks in my area. They need all the towers the can get.


3 posted on 08/22/2012 12:13:15 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: JoeDetweiler

” I’m still on dial-up”

If you need an extra AOL disc, I have some in the garage.


4 posted on 08/22/2012 12:27:56 AM PDT by max americana (Make the world a better place by punching a liberal in the face)
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To: max americana

They make the best driveway reflectors


5 posted on 08/22/2012 1:12:26 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true)
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To: goseminoles

I give ‘em crap about being able to use their coverage map to indicate where we’ll be drilling next. No coverage, we’ll be there. I’m moving ‘lines’ over to Verizon as they go post-contract. They’re too close to just bail and have it be affordable.


6 posted on 08/22/2012 1:43:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: knarf

Actually, a brilliant idea!


7 posted on 08/22/2012 3:13:06 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: thecodont

It isn’t at all clear whether the defect is in the AT&T transmitters or the police receivers.

It’s like that company, lightsquared, that wants to use frequency that will interfer with cheap GPS receivers. There’s so much installed capacity, basically passive spectrum squatting, that they cannot get regulatory approval.


8 posted on 08/22/2012 3:57:17 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Placing the blame on police receivers or in the case of Lightsquared “cheap GPS” is overlooking the practical limitations of out of band rejection of strong signals over weak in band signals.


9 posted on 08/22/2012 4:41:02 AM PDT by Techster
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To: Techster

In the case of cheap GPS receivers, good, compliant military receivers suffer no degradation from the proposed lightsquared system. I suspect that the AT&T transmitters are fully compliant, but the older police radios were cheaper to produce by not worrying about interference which at the time was relatively rare.


10 posted on 08/22/2012 4:49:01 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (The Democratic Party strongly supports full civil rights for necro-Americans!)
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To: Smokin' Joe

Verizon is great but expensive. Never dropped a call.


11 posted on 08/22/2012 5:47:12 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

“Good” military GPS have capabilities not available to the general public. Even so I don’t believe the DOD supported the Lightsquared proposal.

The whole mess was political from the beginning. The band that Lightsquared wanted to use was assigned for satellite use only. It was an attempted end run with the help of the current administration to gain a competitive advantage in the market.


12 posted on 08/22/2012 5:58:04 AM PDT by Techster
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To: thecodont
I thought this was supposed to be fixed by 800MHz public safety rebanding when Nextel was found to be causing this problem. Perhaps they have not fully implemented it yet. According to the radio reference website, they are operating on 851-854 MHz with a P25 simulcast system. That seems to be very similar to what my area is using, and I don't recall hearing about this problem locally, even though AT&T probably still has a lot of cellular frequency transmitters here.
13 posted on 08/22/2012 6:14:27 AM PDT by FreedomOfExpression
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To: goseminoles

They are both expensive, imho, but never so much so as when they don’t work.


14 posted on 08/22/2012 7:09:11 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
It isn’t at all clear whether the defect is in the AT&T transmitters or the police receivers.

Or even in nearby passive nonlinear devices, such as other transmitters, antennas, gutter pipes, etc.

Not to discount, however, the possbility that the problem is (as you say) in the transmitter or the affected receivers, even if all are technically speaking in spec.

15 posted on 08/22/2012 12:55:22 PM PDT by Erasmus (Zwischen des Teufels und des tiefen, blauen Meers)
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