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Rasmussen Missouri Senate: McCaskill 48%, Akin 38%
rasmussenreports.com ^ | August 23, 2012 | Staff

Posted on 08/23/2012 8:44:23 AM PDT by BarnacleCenturion

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To: newzjunkey

Mega-dittoes.


81 posted on 08/23/2012 10:57:45 AM PDT by JerseyDvl (Cogito Ergo Doleo Soetoro, ABO and of course FUBO!)
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To: xzins; randita

Akin’s comment went beyond the “legitimate” gaffe into indefensible ignorance when he invoked magic biology. No one who is interested in winning the election is going to touch it. It’s a tar baby and anyone who defends it is going to get stuck with it just as sure as if he’d said it himself. It is unrealistic to expect anyone to commit political suicide on Akin’s behalf.


82 posted on 08/23/2012 10:58:43 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: ScottinVA; xzins
On the other hand, Akin could put his country first and stop the bleeding now, take one for the team

You mean the GOP-E Team, the Romney Team, the Carl Rove team, the pro-abortion anti-conservative team that is calling for an Olympia Snowe clone to replace him?

That Team?

83 posted on 08/23/2012 11:05:13 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: ScottinVA

But, remember, how people on this board excoriated Rick Santorum when he said in 2011 or 2012 that we sometimes “have to take one for the team.”


84 posted on 08/23/2012 11:05:49 AM PDT by Theodore R. (Past is prologue: The American people have again let us down in this election cycle.)
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To: nutmeg
If the voters would have put her in through the primary process, I think she could have beaten Mack Katskill.

The GOP-e loves this opportunity to run a RINO.

They hate it when a Tea Party candidate gets in a race.

Or conservatives. Look what they did with B1 Bob, they let a leftist faux latino get elected with obvious giant voter fraud rather than Dornan

I think Rove furiously pens a dozen or so
censored white boards in his basement at Hannity’s house...then erases them...LOL (therapy)

85 posted on 08/23/2012 11:06:07 AM PDT by Syncro (Sarah Palin, the unofficial Tea Party candidate for president--Virtual Jerusalem)
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To: randita; xzins
They could explain it until they're blue in the face, but if the media ignores the explanation and Democrats want to exploit it, what good does it do?

So what you are saying is that Political Correctness trumps the Truth.

That is a reality. But is anyone willing to stand up and speak the truth? Or are we all going to cower in the corner and hope that the democrats play nice with Akin's replacement?

I'm all in for Akin. He committed the cardinal sin of not being politically correct. For that sin most of the Freepers here are ready to hang him.

Sad. The fact of the matter is that Akin is one of the most solid conservatives in Washington. But he gets no pass from Freepers who would prefer another Olympia Snowe to Akin. I don't recognize this forum anymore. We all stood up for Sarah Palin when she blew her interview with Katie Couric but Sarah Palin didn't bother to wait even 24 hours before throwing Akin under the bus.

It appears that too many conservatives are cowards. That is why Romney is the nominee. We were so afraid that Newt or Bachmann or Santorum would lose to Obama that we threw in with the RINO with the colored hair and the used car salesman smile.

We will get the government we deserve come November. It is not going to be pretty.

We will not be victorious because we don't seek victory, we seek appeasement.

We will get an unprincipled government because we don't honor principles.

87 posted on 08/23/2012 11:17:01 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: Vaquero
"Some 50+ years ago, while I was a curious pre pubescent, we guys would hang out and whisper all the rumors we had heard about female plumbing and how things work. We were on average 90% wrong on the matter. This guy, it seems is still falling back on his early boyhood biology training"

LOL.

The twit couldn't have provided the left for a better caricature of their view of the average Republican, an old, white male with absolutely no understanding of female bodyparts.
88 posted on 08/23/2012 11:17:01 AM PDT by PhxTM06 (")
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To: BarnacleCenturion
X__Kit Bond__
89 posted on 08/23/2012 11:20:11 AM PDT by StAnDeliver ("So, a Mormon and a Catholic walk onto an aircraft carrier...")
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To: Theodore R.
But, remember, how people on this board excoriated Rick Santorum when he said in 2011 or 2012 that we sometimes “have to take one for the team.”

Those are the same FReepers who sadly do not live in the real world, where words mean things, actions have consequences and voters do not select candidates purely on principle but have to be carefully wooed and won. Sometimes in the real world the biggest hero is the person who is willing to throw himself on the grenade to save his friends.

Akin is no hero.

90 posted on 08/23/2012 11:20:16 AM PDT by jboot (This isn't your father's America. Stay safe and keep your powder dry.)
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To: P-Marlowe
"He committed the cardinal sin of not being politically correct."

You have gotta be kidding me. He committed the cardinal sin of being a moron. No conservative, no matter how strong in their beliefs or how principled they are, can escape being a moron. Its not that he said something that wasn't PC, he said something was in absolute la-la land, that made it sound like he had an 8 year old's understanding of female reproduction.

Rather than help the pro-life movement, he's weakened it, allowing people to ridicule pro-life beliefs by linking them to his ridiculous and indefensible comments.

"The woman's body has a way of shutting that whole thing down."

I guarantee you this man either slept through or never took a single anatomy class in his entire life.
91 posted on 08/23/2012 11:20:56 AM PDT by PhxTM06 (")
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To: newzjunkey; P-Marlowe
So, you believe the democrats won't use the soundbite if Akin drops out??? Sounds like wishful thinking to me. The right response to this was an immediate back-in-their-face. "We have your back!" is what they say to Akin. Any imbecile in America knows the difference between a violent rape and a statutory rape....after all it's written into LAW! By legitimate he meant the violent kind.

Also, there are stats supporting a lower incidence of pregnancy among victims of violent rape. IOW, babies are more likely in consenting relationships. That's just common sense.

In short, Akin would have been defendable, but his friends through him under the bus. And their efforts backfired, fo all they did was buy themselves trouble.

92 posted on 08/23/2012 11:22:22 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! True supporters of our troops pray for their victory!)
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To: P-Marlowe

“He committed the cardinal sin of not being politically correct.”

No, that’s wrong. He actually committed two sins...

One is the incredible inability to sniff out a hostile question and respond to it accordingly. That alone makes his candidacy incredibly suspect.

The last is that he has about a 7th graders knowledge of anatomy and sexual reproduction.


93 posted on 08/23/2012 11:26:53 AM PDT by MplsSteve (General Mills is pro-gay marriage! Boycott their products!)
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To: xzins
If they’d gotten behind the guy and said simply by “legit” he meant “violent as opposed to statutory”, this would have blown over quickly.

I vehemently disagree. Candidly, I did not focus on the "legitimate" comment because, as you say, that poor choice of word can perhaps be explained. I think that the more lasting legacy is his comment that women's bodies can somehow tell the difference between violent and statutory rape and simply "turn off" their reproductive organs.

He sounds like a nut job to a lot of people and falls right into the left's template for us. A better response would be that although violent rape is certainly tragic, murder compounds the tragedy. People could have disagreed with him, but at least he doesn't sound like a lunatic.

Akin has now managed to turn off a lot of women who can't imagine having to endure a pregnancy as a result of a rape. Way to go Todd.

94 posted on 08/23/2012 11:29:09 AM PDT by illinifan (Vote Everyone Out!)
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To: PhxTM06; xzins; so_real; wagglebee
"The woman's body has a way of shutting that whole thing down." I guarantee you this man either slept through or never took a single anatomy class in his entire life.

As I noted on another thread:

The statistics show that there is a statistically significant decrease in the chance of pregnancies following forcible rape. There is no way to scientifically determine the exact explanation. The fact is that events like this can cause significant hormonal imbalances in women as with any serious traumatic event. This could be the explanation. Another explanation could be prayer. The fact is that there is statistical evidence to show an anomaly. Akin's theory to explain that anomaly is as valid as anyone else's.

I would be willing to bet that nearly every obstetrician and gynecologist would advise their patients to avoid stressful situations and traumatic events while pregnant because it has been shown to cause miscarriages.

Additionally I would bet that most physicians who are counseling their female patients who want to get pregnant would strongly advise their patients to avoid the same type of stressful situations and traumatic events during those periods in which they are trying to conceive.

If, in fact, traumatic events can trigger miscarriages or otherwise interfere with the ability to conceive, which has been the standard medical opinion since the dawn of modern medicine, then Akin’s opinion on the issue is more valid than all of these uneducated Freepers who insist their is absolutely no causal correlation.

The statistics speak for themselves. The explanation is the elusive issue. Akin spoke in politically incorrect terms. He spoke it in an awkward way. But if there were no truth to his statement, then physicians would not be advising pregnant women to avoid traumatic and stressful events and would not be advising couples who are trying to conceive to avoid stressful lifestyles and events. Stress causes changes to everyone's bodies. To deny that fact is to deny the whole of biological science.

I, for one (and I appear to be one of only a handful of Freepers) am not willing to throw a man who has been fighting for decades for conservative causes and principles under the bus because he can't adequately explain a statistical anomaly that nobody else can. There have been scientific postulations as to the cause, but there is simply no scientific method to prove or disprove it.

Akins is a dedicated lifelong conservative. He has stood against the Washington establishment for decades as a beacon of truth and conservative principles. We as conservatives owe it to him to stand by him as he has stood by us.

95 posted on 08/23/2012 11:40:01 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds.)
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To: P-Marlowe
We all stood up for Sarah Palin when she blew her interview with Katie Couric but Sarah Palin didn't bother to wait even 24 hours before throwing Akin under the bus.

Yep -- She was still angry in that interview over her candidate's loss in the Missouri Senatorial primary -- and it showed.

96 posted on 08/23/2012 11:42:04 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: P-Marlowe

How about... the America team. His defeat forecloses any chance of repealing Obamacare.


97 posted on 08/23/2012 11:45:06 AM PDT by ScottinVA (Stop the bleeding, Todd Akin. Do the right thing and step aside!!)
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To: BarnacleCenturion
Y'all need to calm down - NOW, dangit!

This is simply the result of the blitzkrieg of democratic lies. As the election draws closer, I can see him easily pulling ahead as people realize the disingenuousness of the Demosocialist machine.

98 posted on 08/23/2012 11:47:48 AM PDT by fwdude ( You cannot compromise with that which you must defeat.)
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To: BarnacleCenturion

Akin needs to drop out and too many voters treat voting like a popularity contest.


99 posted on 08/23/2012 11:49:04 AM PDT by Crucial (Tolerance at the expense of equal treatment is the path to tyranny.)
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To: nutmeg

Extremely frustrating situation.


100 posted on 08/23/2012 11:53:12 AM PDT by CounterCounterCulture
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