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Obama: 'My Faith in Jesus Is Legitimate and Real' {BARF!!}
Fox ^ | August 21, 2012 | n/a

Posted on 08/25/2012 5:40:26 PM PDT by upchuck

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To: upchuck
Barry said that

that I am loved.

Is that what the Bible says?

Maybe

He chose to make the grammatical center and subject of the sentence himself which is typical of any egomaniac.

That oh so simple and oh so beautiful Christian hymn that is taught the very young says, Jesus loves me, this I know, which makes Jesus the subject and us his chosen object of his favor which is unmerited because that Eternal favor which is granted is by his grace alone and it is not merited.

The love that Barry is talking about is not by the Eternal but temporal because his exposure to Christian faith and his Christian teacher was the Reverend Jeremiah Wright who was not a teacher of anything theological but everything ideological.

Barry got one thing right and that is, that he is loved because he is of the world not of Christ.

The world loves Barry and the world hates me because I am a Christian. I can deal with that because Jesus loves me this I know.

John 15:19 tells us why Barry said that "I am loved," and why I know that Jesus loves me even though the world hates me.

John 15:19 KJV If you were of the world, the world would love its own: but because you are not of the world, but I have chosen you out of the world, therefore the world hates you.

61 posted on 08/25/2012 9:08:21 PM PDT by Biblebelter
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To: upchuck
It is not for me to judge what is in a man's heart. That is something that only God can do.
That disclaimer aside, Mr. Obama's professions about his 'Christian faith' and 'Christ' always comes across as forced and fake. He has gotten better over the years, as I'm sure he has gotten more training from his minions as they try to copy what they hear in Christian circles... All I get from this quote is that Mr. Obama embraces a social gospel of do-goodism. Good deeds certainly spring forth from faith in Christ (orphanages, hospitals, helping the poor, eliminating slavery, education, etc), but they spring forth from the incredible gratitude one has for such a Saviour. Good deeds - yes - but when given a chance to talk about his 'Christian faith', Mr. Obama had nothing to say about his Saviour. Where were the exclamations of God manifest in the flesh? God the Son who shed His glory and suffer the indignity to be borne a man and bear our sins ('For you know the grace of Lord Jesus Christ, though He was rich, for your sakes He became poor; that you, through His poverty, might be made rich')? Given the opportunity to talk about his claimed 'Christian faith', Mr. Obama chose to talk about his own good works, and no praise for what the Lord Jesus Christ, God's Son, and his Saviour, had done for him.

I'm sorry, Mr. Obama just comes across as someone wanting to use the Lord Jesus as a tool. Maybe there is more depth in his heart than he lets on, but based on his actions - his words seem appropriate: plastic, and fake.

62 posted on 08/25/2012 9:15:27 PM PDT by El Cid (Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house...)
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To: Fred Hayek
Let me elaborate:
Issa is the bogus Jesus in the Koran. According to the Koran, Issa was never crucified, but was “spirited away”. While the Koran describes the virgin birth, Issa was not the Son of God. Issa is supposed to return with the Mahdi (12th Imam, according to the Shia), and tell everyone that he did not die on the cross, and that Mohammed was right. Issa would then join the Mahdi on waging jihad against the Christians and Jews and all non-Muslims. Just another of Satan’s lies.
So we’re not talking about Darryl Issa.


Fred, FRED! My FRiend, I appreciate your elaborating on that point, I WAS KIDDING with you, your mention of 'Issa' just seemed like an opportunity for a bit of sly humor, and while I knew that 'Issa' was a character out of the fictional Koran, I will admit I didn't know the details that you have graciously shared, so I know more now than I did before, and I thank you for that.

Hope the rest of your weekend is great. :)
63 posted on 08/25/2012 9:39:28 PM PDT by mkjessup (Finley Peter Dunne - "Politics ain't beanbag")
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To: upchuck

What evidence is there to back up his claim that his faith is real?

Lets see. He says that he was converted by attending Jermiah Wrights church, but doesn’t recall any of Wrights “God damn America and the Jews” sermons.

Then he “occasionally” attends “churches” in Washington DC area (like twice a year) and “is routinely advised” by visiting pastors (so being “advised” by a pastor is like going to church?).

In other words, the man does not attend a church now. He does not have Sunday services in the WH, which he could easily request.

The only church he ever attended was a black liberation Marxists church filled with racial hatred. We don’t know if he really even showed up much to that “church”.

Isn’t it obvious that the man is claiming to be a Christian for political reasons?

Remember how he referred to Christ as “a son of God”? No one who understands Christianity would say that. He is a faker, a liar about his faith like everything else.


64 posted on 08/25/2012 10:09:48 PM PDT by garjog
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To: upchuck

“My faith in Jesus is legitimate and real.” — Barak Obama

“It depends on what the meaning of the word ‘is’ is.” — Bill Clinton


65 posted on 08/25/2012 10:15:00 PM PDT by garjog
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To: John S Mosby

“Once he was raised a muslim, he is a muslim.”
__________________________________________________

Well, his father may have been a Muzie, and if the law of the Muslim faith says that makes him a Muslim, so be it.
I do not see him practicing that, or any other faith, which would fit with his being a Communist.
I still contend that he is truly an atheist.
I also suggest that his mother was also an atheist, or at best, an agnostic.
It is amazing just how little ANYBODY knows about this Marxist and imposter.


66 posted on 08/25/2012 10:15:00 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: mkjessup
" the ‘Rats are preparing to smear Romney for being a Mormon"

This is what we discussed here in arguing against Romney as the nominee. We said that the other side will trash Mormonism. Romney defenders replied that no one would stoop that low to attack another man's faith.

Well, now it begins. Voters are going to get a crash course in Mormon doctrine.

As far as I am concerned, I would MUCH rather have Romney in charge of the nation than the dangerously incompetent liar now in office.


67 posted on 08/25/2012 10:24:14 PM PDT by garjog
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To: upchuck; All

He said in Turkey “”We do not consider ourselves a Christian nation...We consider ourselves a nation of citizens.” (forward to minute marker .45

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HUzo9QvMmzY

He mocked the Sermon on the Mount - Jesus’ most famous speech - in 2006 -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35sGJrWKcmY

Cover up any symbol of Jesus -

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqncQ85Q1qA&feature=related

HE had to be corrected after saying ‘my muslim faith’ - how many of you have ever made such a “mistake?”

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=bMUgNg7aD8M&NR=1

and what did he claim as a percentage of Christians in America - 33-36%?

It’s between 77 and 86%

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christianity_in_the_United_States

HEY, POTUSINO, WE ARE A CHRISTIAN NATION - AND A BELIEVER IN JESUS DOES NOT MOCK JESUS.

maybe we should copy these links to post and email over and over - post ‘em on Twitter and FB too -


68 posted on 08/25/2012 10:28:19 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: upchuck

Despise Obama?

Check out the Obama Clarifier!

All the dirt on Obama in one convenient place.

http://obamaclarifier.blogspot.com/


69 posted on 08/25/2012 10:43:28 PM PDT by garjog
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To: Avid Coug; All

you post “I’ve never heard or read a quote by Obama saying he is not a Muslim. He may state that he has a Christian faith, but I’ve never heard him actually say he is not a Muslim”

INDEED.

Obama has said the the ARabic call to prayer is the most beautigul sound on earth - and recites it in perfect Arabic - learned, no doubt, when attending Koran studies in Indonesia - in one of his book, he compained about his mother making him get up at 4 every morning for ‘school studies’ - he didn’t say WHAT studies - but ‘coincidentally’, the first of the 5 times a day of the call to prayer is at 4 in the morning.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuXxtg4M_z8

It is Islam LAW that ANYone who recites this prayer - makes one a Muslim , and he surely knows this, being raised a Muslim - listen to the explantion at the end.

Let’s save thes links! start sending them ot EVERYWHERE.
(see this list of other inks in my other post - of course, there are still many Freepers who would rather see this Muslim continue in power than have a - horrors - MORMON president.)


70 posted on 08/25/2012 10:49:24 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: upchuck; All
And this should prove eye opening for those still asleep

20,000 mooseSlimes to descend on DNC convention - why? He's their man in the catbird's seat...and they all feel they now have enough power to spit it in our faces?

http://theothermccain.com/2012/08/22/twenty-thousand-muslims-expected-to-attend-dnc-in-charlotte/

Also - the great unwashed thugs of OWS wanted to descend opn Tampa for the RNC Convention, but Tampa said ‘nah, don't think so.” - SOOOOO - they're going to go to Charlotte for the DNC convention.

The dems may be laughing about the hurricane interfering with the RNC convention - but the 3 groups that are going to be at theirs may make them wish they only had a hurricane.
Get the popcorn ready. This could really be a show.

http://nymag.com/daily/intel/2011/12/charlotte-prepping-for-ows-at-dnc.html

71 posted on 08/25/2012 11:08:00 PM PDT by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does....)
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To: upchuck

I do not believe him. What he’s done and said contradict this.


72 posted on 08/25/2012 11:25:39 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I can neither confirm or deny that; even if I could, I couldn't - it's classified.)
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To: Psalm 144

He slipped with stephanaoupolus. Explain that.


73 posted on 08/25/2012 11:28:19 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

That is how he was raised. He embraces the non-western. As I said, he is an Islamophile. But I think he has no belief in or fear of Allah or any other deity.


74 posted on 08/26/2012 4:04:05 AM PDT by Psalm 144 (Where would Christianity be if the early believers put their hopes and trust in the Roman empire?)
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To: upchuck

I’ll repeat to Obama the wise words of Nancy Sinatra: “You keep lyin’ when you oughta be truthin’.”


75 posted on 08/26/2012 4:10:37 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam ("When America ceases to be good, she'll cease to be great!” - de Tocqueville)
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To: upchuck
Is Barack, Barry, Hussein, Soetoro, Obama, a closet Muslim or a Christian?

Better we listen to Barack Hussein Obama, in his own words!

Cairo University 6/4/2009

“Assalam Alaikum” so said Barack Hussein Obama as the opening remarks when he gave his famous (appeasement/apologist) speech in Cairo.

The Islamic greeting is Assalam Alaikum (May God grant you protection and security). The response to this is wa Alaikum Assalam. These brief Arabic words let Muslims know that they are among friends, not strangers.

According to Muslims, each time "a believer" says the words Assalam Alaikum or responds to this greeting, his bank of good deeds is increased. BTW, said “Greeting” is RESERVED for Muslims to other Muslims ONLY and anyone who believes that the Appeaser in Chief who was schooled in Islam as a young boy in Indonesia does not know the difference is naive or uninformed

“I have KNOWN Islam on 3 Continents before coming to the region where it was first revealed……THAT EXPERIENCE GUIDES MY CONVICTION!”

To George Stephanapolous: “Your absolutely right in that John McCain has not talked about MY MUSLIM FAITH!”

“We will convey our DEEP APPRECIATION for the Islamic Faith which has done so much over the centuries to shape the world”

Then there is the MacDaddy of them all: "I WILL STAND WITH THE MUSLIMS SHOULD THE POLITICAL WINDS SHIFT IN AN UGLY DIRECTION."

If it walks like a duck, QUACKS like a duck......!

76 posted on 08/26/2012 5:34:32 AM PDT by neveralib
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To: upchuck
Obama: 'My Faith in Jesus Is Legitimate and Real'

So says Pontius Pilate...

77 posted on 08/26/2012 5:54:36 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: upchuck

bttt


78 posted on 08/26/2012 1:50:01 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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To: timestax

bumpity uppity


79 posted on 08/26/2012 6:01:57 PM PDT by timestax (Why not drug tests for the President AND all White Hut staff ? ? ?)
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