Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The NYPD Explains Why Their Bullets Wounded Nine People Yesterday (It's not their fault)
The Atlantic ^ | August 25, 2012 | Connor Simpson

Posted on 08/26/2012 6:32:13 AM PDT by Zakeet

It's official. The New York Police Department have admitted that all nine people wounded yesterday in the Empire State Building shootout were from bullets they fired at Jeffrey Johnson.

CNN's David Ariosto reports the NYPD said the two officers that confronted Johnson fired a total of 16 shots. "One officer shot nine while another one shot seven," they said. Police commissioner Ray Kelly explained the injured bystanders were hit by ricocheting bullets. The shots hit "flowerpots and other objects around, so ... their bullets fragmented and, in essence, that's what caused the wounds."

[Snip]

The next question the NYPD will have to answer is why the two officers needed to fire 16 bullets to take down one man who, as we can see in the video, was only a few feet away from them.

(Excerpt) Read more at theatlanticwire.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; empirestateshooting; guns; newyork; nypdshooting; shooting
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180181-189 last
To: fireman15
I would bet that the first reaction of even the harshest critics here when looking down the big barrel of a madman’s .45 would be to pull their own trigger first and keep pulling it until the threat is gone. Once this turned into a gun fight gut instinct took over and all of the options went out the window.

Garbage.

In post #140 I gave 2 examples of armed senior citizens - one a 65 yo granny - who acted coolly and calmly when face with armed hoodies. You didn't see them spraying bullets all over the place.

I can't recall any incidents where armed citizens have done so. Can you?

181 posted on 08/28/2012 9:48:43 AM PDT by Ken H
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 171 | View Replies]

To: Ken H; cumbo78
I don't disagree that there are many people who might have handled similar situations better. There probably are some individuals who on a good day could have taken down the gunman with just a couple of well placed shots with no injured bystanders. Training no doubt aids in the development of such individuals. I am assuming that both you and I have concealed carry permits and that both of us hope that because of our training, frequent time at the range and past experiences that we would do better. But I have never looked down the barrel of a .45 held by a madman who just blew away some other guy so I am not prepared to say that I wouldn't react as the officers did.

I will repeat a true story... two soldiers one from North Vietnam and one from the United States were walking down the same trail in the jungle approaching one another. They came to the opposite ends of a log that crossed a small stream. As they began to cross the log each looked up and saw the other. They both drew their weapons and fired. Within just seconds their magazines were empty... each ran off screaming in the directions that they had come from. Neither was hit.

A friend of mine was just down the trail from the experienced soldier who had been walking point. The soldier had proved himself on previous occasions and was known to be an excellent marksman. He was caught by surprise and had a bad day fortunately he lived and learned. Sometimes when the bullets start flying things don't go the way you hope they would. My friend said his fellow soldier learned from the experience and went on to prove himself again in other battles.

If the gunman's .45 hadn't malfunctioned at least one of the officers most likely would have died. The officers put their lives on the line to stop this cold blooded murderer. The only ones dead are the murder and his victim. I hope the incident will help the NYPD and its officers to prevent further tragedy in the future.

182 posted on 08/28/2012 10:52:26 AM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 181 | View Replies]

To: ReignOfError

Yeah, it is my view that the cops in NYC have been some of the worst criminals. Gee, I wonder where I get that idea.


183 posted on 08/28/2012 12:02:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (Anticipate their arrival...they won't.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 180 | View Replies]

To: CodeToad

For that to account for the reported difference between Detroit and NYC, you would have to believe that the NYPD violently assaults about three thousand people a day.

Far be it for me to assail your beliefs with mere facts, though.


184 posted on 08/28/2012 2:43:55 PM PDT by ReignOfError
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 183 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

I just gotta say, after nearly a week, that was the rudest response I’ve read in 14 years of reading this forum. So disappointed with your claim to be special forces. I hope it’s not tue.


185 posted on 08/31/2012 6:39:38 AM PDT by stanne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 129 | View Replies]

To: stanne

Boo hoo. Did you miss the reply that provoked it?


186 posted on 08/31/2012 8:06:55 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 185 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

It was the rudest response. Just saying. I don’t expect you to care, just letting you know I hate to think that my liberal friends and Hollywood people could be in some way correct for thinking you guys are brutes and not the genlemen some of us hope you are.

Whatever that’s worth to ya.


187 posted on 08/31/2012 11:05:30 AM PDT by stanne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 186 | View Replies]

To: stanne

When some retired donut eater on a fat govt pension tells me that I’d crap my pants when things get scary, unlike those heroic (cops like he used to be), it gets my dander up.

I hope your “liberal friends and Hollywood people” DO think we’re brutes. It “puts the skeer in ‘em,” and that is a good thing, to my thinking.

What you think, I could not care any less.


188 posted on 08/31/2012 11:18:02 AM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 187 | View Replies]

To: Travis McGee

Then don’t reply.

You disappoint me.

I am more “one of you” than you think.

I think what you all engender is respect and that’s an awsome thing and with it plenty of fear.

That brute crap used to be reserved for the field.

Maybe you just hate cops.


189 posted on 08/31/2012 12:42:33 PM PDT by stanne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 188 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first previous 1-20 ... 121-140141-160161-180181-189 last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson