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To: Walkingfeather

“They lost their whole army in an afternoon, I would think they would have learned their lesson....”

The problem is that they have better equipment now: made in the U.S. gear rather than third-rate Soviet gear.

So now it’s simply a matter of whether Egyptian training is any good and how brave their soldiers may be.

The U.S. really should install secret “disable” devices on things like tanks and SAMs and such when sold to third world countries.


16 posted on 08/26/2012 9:28:15 AM PDT by catnipman ((Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!))
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To: catnipman

Besides their crews, what also matters is how well their maintenance and logistics operations work. Modern armor (the M1A1s they haven’t deployed) and SAMs don’t work for long without a competent and dedicated support operation. These have not been Arab strong suits, and traditionally much of this support has been outsourced. I’m not sure how many contractors would stay on the job if there was a significant threat of Israeli air attack.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 9:45:34 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: catnipman
The other issue is maintenance. Abrams a the crown jewel of a tank but a useless hunk of exotic metals, ceramics & electronics if not properly maintained. It takes highly skilled technicians & a disciplined approach to keep them running. That is something that Middle Eastern armies culturally are incapable of doing. I have talked to many people who have trained Middle Eastern personnel, to a man/women they say, “You can teach them the skills. They pass the tests. However culturally something like maintenance is looked down on as beneath their Islamic dignity. Why because its hands on and its not obvious ‘warrioring’.”. I remember saying to this one guy, ‘warrioring’ that's an interesting word what do you mean by that?” His reply,” They have this cultural image of the conquering Islamic warrior on horseback. Maintaining equipment in their minds is the equivalent of being the guy that feeds the horses. That is a infidels job!”

So they are culturally better suited for Russian equipment.

I agree we should put “something” in the electronics that turns everything off with a low probability of intercept RF command.

24 posted on 08/26/2012 9:54:55 AM PDT by Reily
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Their US gear is 15-20 years behind what the Israelis have.


34 posted on 08/26/2012 10:55:54 AM PDT by buwaya
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“The problem is that they have better equipment now: made in the U.S. gear rather than third-rate Soviet gear”

If the Israelis would have had the Soviet gear, and the moslems had ours, it would have still come out the same. The Soviet equipment always gets the blame for the way the turd worlders employ it.

My fave story is communist rebels in Rhodesia who left the sights on their AKs to 1000 yards. The logic being that the gun shoots harder to make the bullet go that far. The skinnies viewed it as a sort of accelerator pedal that regulated the power of the rifle.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 11:01:16 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: catnipman

“The problem is that they have better equipment now: made in the U.S. gear rather than third-rate Soviet gear”

If the Israelis would have had the Soviet gear, and the moslems had ours, it would have still come out the same. The Soviet equipment always gets the blame for the way the turd worlders employ it.

My fave story is communist rebels in Rhodesia who left the sights on their AKs to 1000 yards. The logic being that the gun shoots harder to make the bullet go that far. The skinnies viewed it as a sort of accelerator pedal that regulated the power of the rifle.


36 posted on 08/26/2012 11:01:33 AM PDT by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: catnipman

You dont think the israelis have already done this?


44 posted on 08/26/2012 11:38:53 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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