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What Todd Akin Should Have Said About Abortion and Rape
The Gospel Coalition ^ | 08/25/2012 | Trevin Wax

Posted on 08/26/2012 6:03:41 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

Well Barack would allow the baby born alive to be put down. Even if the baby was female.


21 posted on 08/26/2012 6:41:40 PM PDT by jwalsh07 (.)
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To: allmendream

at the end of WW2, when their homes were bombed family killed no food no water, all those German women in Berlin raped by Russians never got pregnant. too stressful.


22 posted on 08/26/2012 6:41:46 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: Derp Mountain

Cleanup needed in isle 10.


23 posted on 08/26/2012 6:43:29 PM PDT by soycd
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Who pays for the pre-natal care and hospital costs for rape victims that don’t have any money? Should rape victims announce they’ve been raped as soon as they find they are pregnant, then find a foster home that will pay those bills?


24 posted on 08/26/2012 6:45:34 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SeekAndFind

As bad as akin’s first fumble of the ball except this time he dribbled it before losing it. The question remained unanswered too.


25 posted on 08/26/2012 6:48:32 PM PDT by soycd
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To: stuartcr

Women who don’t have momey for medical care can get Medicaid in every state in the USA. State programs have priority funding for prenatal, obstetric, and children’s services. To the best of my knowledge, even if the woman’s eligibility for such programs is not yet established or is questionable, no hospital is legally permitted to deny services to a woman giving birth.


26 posted on 08/26/2012 6:52:09 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Just to be is a Blessing; just to Live is Holy." -- Rabbi Abraham Heschel)
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To: SeekAndFind

1) It is reprehensible to rake Akin over the coals for misspeaking when he said “legitimate” instead of what he probably meant, “bona fide.” The FBI estimates that ~ 8% of all rape accusations are false. There is also a big difference between forced stranger rape and consensual intercourse between a 15 and a 17 year old.

2) His comment about pregnancy being rare following rape is also true. I was taught this in high school in the 1970s—I guess it’s suddenly untrue now that a conservative said it? While I can’t know why he said that, it may have been an attempt to counter the abortion industry’s vile practice of exploiting rape victims for their sales pitches.

3) He is also completely correct when he says that abortion is no answer. While there seems to be a common belief that a woman’s first reaction to any pregnancy is disgust and a desire to rid herself of the baby ASAP—unless she “wants” it—that simply isn’t true. We’re pretty much programmed to have maternal feelings towards that unborn life, even before we know for certain it exists.

I’ve read that women pregnant from rape are actually LESS likely to abort than women who choose to become pregnant. They’re also more likely to put the child up for adoption. And when they keep the child, they feel like something positive came from the rape—the meme that they relive the rape every time they look at the child is a fabrication, repeated so often by abortion advocates that it seems to have become “common knowledge.”

Very often, a woman who aborts her rape-conceived baby feels that the abortion violated her as much as the rape—not to mention that it burdens her with the overwhelming guilt of having killed her child, a guilt which lasts far longer than the trauma of rape.

To read real accounts of real women who got pregnant from rape, I suggest this website: http://www.rebeccakiessling.com/index.html


27 posted on 08/26/2012 6:58:36 PM PDT by exDemMom (Now that I've finally accepted that I'm living a bad hair life, I'm more at peace with the world.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

OK, thanks


28 posted on 08/26/2012 7:00:57 PM PDT by stuartcr ("When silence speaks, it speaks only to those that have already decided what they want to hear.")
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To: SeekAndFind

She has the child, it is put up for adoption. Problem solved. A life is saved instead of another one snuffed out. Liberals don’t understand anything except murder the child on demand.


29 posted on 08/26/2012 7:01:53 PM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: hecht

In Rwanda while their men were killed with machetes thousands of women were raped and thousands of pregnancies resulted.


30 posted on 08/26/2012 7:15:52 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: allmendream

they enjoyed it!


31 posted on 08/26/2012 7:22:40 PM PDT by hecht (restore Hetch-Hetchy, and screw San Francisco and Pelosi)
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To: SeekAndFind

What Akin should have said and what he did say are two different things.


32 posted on 08/26/2012 7:26:40 PM PDT by Delhi Rebels (There was a row in Silver Street - the regiments was out.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Adoption.


33 posted on 08/26/2012 7:37:19 PM PDT by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: Delhi Rebels

RE: What Akin should have said and what he did say are two different things.

We know. This article was posted to help OTHERS *IF* the question inevitably comes up again.


34 posted on 08/26/2012 8:08:47 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (bOTRT)
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To: hecht

According to the “shut the whole thing down” gang they must have.


35 posted on 08/26/2012 8:29:23 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism)
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To: SeekAndFind

No woman is required by law to take care of and raise a child she bears ... in a rape situation or otherwise.

So, not relevant.


36 posted on 08/26/2012 8:29:37 PM PDT by Lorianne (fedgov, taxporkmoney)
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To: SeekAndFind

Great. Another ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACK who has the perfect ‘response’ to the question, DAYS later. I note he also supplied the QUESTIONS the host SHOULD HAVE ASKED.

Gee... maybe all talk show hosts and their guests should get pre-written scripts from the author of this blog. Then the world would be perfect.


37 posted on 08/26/2012 8:31:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SeekAndFind

(My version. Not much difference, is there ?)


Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: Rape is a horrible crime, and a rapist ought to be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law. I stand for human rights over against anyone who would violate the life of another – from the rapist to the abortionist.

Host:So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: Absolutely. As I said, I stand for human rights for all, including the unborn.

Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: It is a tragic situation indeed. And my heart goes out to any woman in such circumstances. That’s why I could never recommend that she abort her child. Inflicting violence upon another innocent victim, in this case the baby, is not the way to move past the tragedy of her own innocence being taken.

Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: Like I said, I stand for the rights of all human beings. Even in a difficult situation like rape, the unborn child should have human rights. We must not let circumstances dictate to us when humans have rights. Otherwise, we could justify all sorts of atrocities in the name of “difficult circumstances.”

Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: That’s possible. But let me ask you another question. If a woman chose to carry her child to term and then found that every time she looked at her infant she remembered the horror of the rape, would we allow her to smother the baby?

Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: You’re right. Because no matter how difficult her circumstances, we recognize the humanity of the infant. Unfortunately, many in our society refuse to recognize the humanity of the unborn.

Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: Biology textbooks and scientists tell us the same thing we see when we look at a 4-D ultrasound: the fetus is human. Now, you can make the case that the unborn human should not have rights. And many do. That’s why unborn girls are aborted at a much higher rate than unborn boys, not only in places like China but in the United States as well. That’s why the number of children with Down Syndrome has plummeted. That’s why so many abortion clinics target inner-city areas with high minority populations. You see, once we begin to discriminate against some human beings, we are on the fast track to denying human rights for others.

Host: So you also believe abortion ought to be outlawed in the case of rape?

Akin: I believe that all innocent human life should be protected. So, yes. This difficult situation is about three people: the rapist, the mother, and the baby. Currently, there is no death penalty required for the rapist. I refuse to believe we ought to give an innocent victim a sentence more severe than the perpetrator of the crime.


38 posted on 08/26/2012 8:38:14 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 ( Lame and ill-informed post)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Even so, as disturbing as Akin’s remarks are, I am concerned about the conflation of issues that suddenly appeared in the aftermath.”

Even so, I am disturbed about the impact the stupid remarks made by this idiot troglodyte will have on our efforts to recapture Congress and dethrone Obama.

And THAT, ULTIMATELY poses a greater threat to the anti-abortion crusade than any need to defend this jerk and support his continuing campaign.


39 posted on 08/26/2012 9:32:12 PM PDT by ZULU (See: http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=D9vQt6IXXaM&hd)
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To: zeugma

Why do you keep trying to defend his comments. Even he has now stated on Good Morning America that his previous statement were medically unsound.

So do you want to condemn him for being a flip-flopper? His statement was incredibly stupid, insensitive, paternalistic and idiotic. Which begs the question, which doctors was he refering to? Or did he make the whole thing up.

I really do not know how ignorant Todd is. I get the feeling he is going to open his mouth again and lose another 15 percent.


40 posted on 08/26/2012 9:55:16 PM PDT by daviscupper
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