Posted on 08/27/2012 4:21:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
limited range or no cargo space due to tanks is a huge problem.
Another is refueling. in Minneapolis we have one public station.
Now.. if you run out of fuel.. we’ll your screwed. No carrying a gallon can of fuel to the car.
No thanks to nat gas cars.
Drill baby drill.
No.
That's a little misleading. If the U.S. were to add enough petroleum capacity to become "energy independent" it is true that this oil would compete for customers at the world market price. And we would pay that price. But adding that much new oil to the worlds daily available supply would certainly result in less influence on the price of oil than is currently enjoyed by OPEC.
How much? I don't know but I wouldn't be asking T. Boone Pickens for my answer. He's pushing natural gas not oil.
I think with the Honda CNG you can buy a home fill kit IF you have NG available at your home.
Until someone invests in the infrastructure and car mfgs. make them more available, I think the Honda CNG is only available in CA and CT, we won’t see them in other areas. I wonder IF they can add CNG tanks at existing gas stations?
Boone Pickens, and everyone else who invested in wind energy, did so knowing that it was not competitive and did not make any economic sense. They invested in wind energy only if two conditions were met:
1. Politicians forced utilities to purchase wind energy at prices far in excess of competitive options and would not require wind energy to be available when it was needed. Wind energy was always interruptible by the producer. Utilities and rate payers always had to pay for back up generation.
2. Politicians provided their project with huge taxpayer subsidies including loans that did not have to be repaid.
It appears Mr. Pickens has concluded that Obama will not win a second term and therefore taxpayer funded giveaways will not be available. This is why he is changing his position and promoting natural gas.
bad an idea it was when their neighbor’s natural gas compressor for his car went on fire/exploded/leaked and blew up half the block back in the 70s.
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the technology has changed since then. a lot.
The payback time required to make my car bi-fuel (gasoline and/or CNG) is about 3 years. Add to that the reduced maintenance costs due to cleaner burning CNG and added engine life and it makes sense...as long as I have a place to fill it up.
Actually, not as much as a propane grill flashback. Interested in learning about the fuel and ignition systems for vehicles.
Sadly, the stupid users who caused the problems with the equipment back them have not. :P
Seems like just yesterday when my TV screen was filled 24/7 with his ads touting wind power as the Second Coming.
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boone’s wind power farms died when the price of natural gas collapsed. so likely now he has some investments in natural gas or natural gas related projects.
but so what?
My husband, who grew up on a farm, remembers when almost everyone who had a tractor ran it on LP.
My husband had a pick up truck switched over to propane back then. The truck ran away with him and he had a tough time getting it stopped. I think that was the end of his propane experiment.
Oh wow, I thought the cost of the kit was 500.00 not 5K but then we don’t have natural gas and don’t live anywhere near a state that even sells the Honda model.
I’m for drilling for oil on federal land and paying down our debt with the revenue that would generate.
Sadly, the stupid users who caused the problems with the equipment back them have not. :P
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true but if you read upthread you’ll notice that the technology changes are designed to mitigate against the frailties of stupid users.
Gas to Liquids conversion solves much of these problems ... however, the process itself is energy intensive. I believe that it could be combined with nukes to provide the heat required and then produce a wide range of petroleum products.
” - - - One of us (Pickens) emphasizes transitioning the nation’s heavy-duty and fleet-vehicle market to compressed and liquefied natural gas - - - “
Who is going to pay for this “transitioning” that you are trying to sneak by us taxpayers, Boone?
If this is such a marvelous idea Boone, then why are you trying to tax-hustle the Federal Government into something that the market finds unprofitable?
Obama had his Solyndra fling, and now T. Boone wants his tax-funded Nat. Gas boon-doggle.
If you build it Boone, then you did that.
Write a check or shut up!
T. Boone still trying to get the Feds to force us all to use his product, and so increase it’s price.
Natural gas has some promise, the market should determine how much.
Is converting back and forth from one fuel to another practical and or cost effective?
It seems like it would be because when one fuel is way up anotther fuel is way down.
Seems like it would pay for itself?
Not all find the market unprofitable.
Shell Investing $300M To Fuel LNG-Powered Trucks
http://www.forbes.com/sites/christopherhelman/2012/06/13/shell-investing-300m-to-fuel-lng-powered-trucks/
Navistar commits to expanding LNG truck offerings
http://www.landlinemag.com/Story.aspx?StoryID=22150
Commercial Vehicle shift to natural gas spurring a mini-boom
http://www.torquenews.com/1080/commercial-vehicle-shift-natural-gas-spurring-mini-boom
Truck-stop chain plans 100 liquefied natural-gas stations
http://www.vindy.com/news/2012/jul/02/truck-stop-chain-plans--liquefied-natura/
More natural-gas vehicles headed to the U.S. market
http://www.usatoday.com/USCP/PNI/Business/2012-03-09-PNI0309biz-natural-gas-vehicles_ST_U.htm
Chrysler, Ford, GM Introduce Natural-Gas Pickup Trucks
http://enr.construction.com/economics/quarterly_cost_reports/2012/0326-ford-gm-and-ram-introduce-natural-gas-pickup-trucks.asp
Dart Launches CNG Dedicated Truck Service
http://www.darttruckingjobs.com/News-Blog/Detail/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/64/Dart-Launches-CNG-Dedicated-Truck-Service.aspx
More good news about natural gas vehicles
http://www.bseec.org/content/more-good-news-about-natural-gas-vehicles
A Dallas-based company, AmericaCNG, announced this month that they will be equipping 300 Roady’s Truck Stops with natural gas fueling equipment. This comes on the heels of a recent announcement by Clean Energy Fuels to install natural gas fueling equipment at 250 Pilot and Flying J truck stops nationwide.
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