Posted on 08/27/2012 4:21:30 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
As long as there is a Muslim in the WH, OPEC will continue to control the U.S. transportation industry with the Unions controlling the TSA stopping and searching Americans and their vehicles.
Americans will never be free of Middle East oil until Obama is out of the WH period. Natural gas, crude oil, Nuclear power, and any other form of natural power that Americans can invent or develop without government control, and NAZI boots on the neck of refineries and oil pipelines will end OPEC’s control over the US!
I have seen T Boone on Cavuto make the case that we could become independent pretty much by fueling the heavy commercial fleet with natural gas.
He is basically a good ol’ boy, but a smart good ol’ boy. T Boone has spent a good bit of time as an elder good ol’ boy studying the problem. Being old and free from the restraints of those not retired frees one’s mind to think beyond the limits of day to day. He has done just that.
The problem now boils down to devising and implementing the transistion.
Let me know when they develop the impact-proof fuel system first.
Seriously? No. We already tried natural gas as a widespread fuel back in the 70s and again in the 2000s (though the second time it was used as a fleet-only fuel). It doesn’t work out at all the way this writer thinks, and there were many homeowners who could tell you about how bad an idea it was when their neighbor’s natural gas compressor for his car went on fire/exploded/leaked and blew up half the block back in the 70s.
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Boon Pickens wants to recoup the money he lost on his wind farms by driving up the price of his natural gas holdings. We have enough oil to fill all our domestic needs and to become an exporter. We just need to drill it.
Used all the time in racing cars and aircraft, they are called fuel cells. Added with the current technology on the road for collision avoidance, and we have what you desire.
It should also be pointed out that natural gas is only this cheap because demand for it is relatively low. Throw the vehicle population of the US in there and watch prices skyrocket. Remember, the natural gas vehicles would then be competing with powerplants for the natural gas that’s out there. Then you can have expensive vehicle fuel and ridiculous electric bills at the same time.
The natural gas potential with the fracking of our shale deposits is hugh - and that's not including new oil production, coal, and nuclear. Look at what is going on in North Dakota and apply it to other shale trend formations. At least fifty good years of solid production if not 159 years in states that include Ohio.
* crickets chirping *
Maybe if Toyota or Honda jump on board. Anything non-union's a candidate.
Those are intended to contain liquid fuels, not gaseous ones under pressure. If you want an impact-proof gas cylinder, you will find they weigh more than the engine of the car does, empty.
To give you some idea of how long this has been promoted, watch this very early 80s video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irvktfQvu4M
Those lightweight tanks? Yeah, turned out they delaminated and ruptured after a while, which is why they never went anywhere in the marketplace.
For a given volume tank, you will get far less range on natural gas, as well.
With capturing all of it instead of burning it off will also raise production and lower the cost. So why is it that your glass is twice the size it has to be? Dealing with a problem that is either a glass half full or half empty is not the way one should be looking at efficiency when it comes to dealing with engineering problems.
Honda already sells a $25K natural gas powered Civic variant, the Civic GX.
Nobody except government agencies buys them.
NatGas folks have been dreaming of transportation demand for 30 years at least. And, with the 100% backing of enviro’s - at least throughout the 90’s and the early aughts. You’re right - the explosion risk is too scary and until that’s solved Boone should save his articles and get in the lab.
People have been trying to attack these “engineering problems” with NGVs for at least the past fifty years. Nobody’s solved them all and they’re still not very good.
Capturing it all isn’t even an option with the infrastructure we have now. We would need literally an order of magnitude more pipelines, etc., to even begin to feed the vehicle fleet.
Perhaps some will now understand why the environmental movement is trying to kill natural gas now.
Once natural gas becomes used for transportation fuel, it will be insane to reverse course and pursue subsidized electric, ethanol or algae.
Clean, domestic natural gas, produced by American workers earning above-average wages will become part of our culture in places like Pennsylvania, Ohio and New York.
Turning the traditionally blue states of Pennsylvania and New York into energy proucers will also change the politics of those states......something liberals cannot allow.
Power plants would then revert to coal and nuclear fuel. The reason for coal and nuclear not being used is political, not economic or scientific
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